Corrupt Establishment GOP is Crony Capitalism's Bought and Paid for Political Arm

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Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker

I'm not "carrying water" for anybody. I just happen to share some of the same opinions, and would like for him, and others to be able to express themselves without being attacked. On this entire thread it looks to me that he responds with vitriol after he is attacked, that's called defending yourself. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't want to be insulted, don't start the insults.

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While I appreciate the sentiment and support, Milwaukeeshaker, I consider being "attacked" by toads like Great-Kazoo and his minions a badge of honor. The Dems have their Obama Zombies and we've got our braying jackasses who think just because someone has "GOP" after their title they can do no wrong. Never mind these ankle-biters; in the big scheme of things dupes and shills like them are irrelevant. Let them yap away in their own echo chamber. While they may be a few IQ points short of "moron," this thread has so far generated more than 800 views, and I'd like to think the silent majority can judge the points I've made on their own merits, or at least be honest and thoughtful critics.

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

While I appreciate the sentiment and support, Milwaukeeshaker, I consider being "attacked" by toads like Great-Kazoo and his minions a badge of honor. The Dems have their Obama Zombies and we've got our braying jackasses who think just because someone has "GOP" after their title they can do no wrong. Never mind these ankle-biters; in the big scheme of things dupes and shills like them are irrelevant. Let them yap away in their own echo chamber. While they may be a few IQ points short of "moron," this thread has so far generated more than 800 views, and I'd like to think the silent majority can judge the points I've made on their own merits, or at least be honest and thoughtful critics.

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I haven't seen a single person talk about anything in this thread except the way your present yourself. Not a single person has defended anyone that you've mentioned. So if you can go on and on and on without conversation from the other participants, what exactly is the point? If you're just talking to yourself anyway, why bother starting a thread?

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Originally Posted by Irving

I haven't seen a single person talk about anything in this thread except the way your present yourself. Not a single person has defended anyone that you've mentioned. So if you can go on and on and on without conversation from the other participants, what exactly is the point? If you're just talking to yourself anyway, why bother starting a thread?

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This thread should have nothing to do with me. It should have everything to do with the subject at hand: reclaiming the GOP from sellouts like Cantor who are unscrupulous frauds masquerading as Republicans and who cave every time a vote of real substance comes up. Or worse yet, pushing for things like TARP that are a blatant rip-off of taxpayers for the benefit of the kleptocrats. Follow the money and you can see who their pimps are. So the choice comes down to this: go with the status quo (how's that working out for ya, America?) or start throwing the bums out and electing replacements who will do what we send them to Washington to do: represent We the People.

Cujo- I had a wise man once tell me: There are two kinds of men in this world- men who bitch about things that bother them, and men who do something about them. Which one are you? Obviously you're not the latter as you continually bad-mouth the GOP, and call some of those in the party "scumbags." While I agree not everyone in elected positions are truly in it for serving we the people, I donate time, money, and efforts to those who actually do serve the people and not themselves. We all know there are people like McCain and Graham who are screwing our party over, however, as has been stated before, there isn't a whole lot that we can do from our place in CO outside of helping those in their districts to get them out. I'd be more worried about here at home, where you can readily make a change. That starts at the local level, elect a good, conservative Sheriff, then state legislators. I for one am doing what I can in my area to get rid of Jeanne Nicholson, the harlot who lied to the face of hundreds of people in the Evergreen/Conifer area about the last gun laws, and I think we have a shot at winning. We can reclaim the house and senate here, then in DC but only as far as our votes take us... The other states will have to wake up and do their own good from their home, all we can do is help in what ways we can. Bitching about it sure does a lot, though, huh? [Sarcasm2]

So rather than continuing to talk about an election that is already over (Cantor), do you have something more productive to bring up?

I spent my early years working in a congressional office, a think tank, and two state legislatures. I changed careers because I quickly learned there is a problem with the system, and the work was entirely too frustrating. Jefferson was a proponent of a small federal government because it was understood what happens with money and power. The rules that confined the federal government were swept under the rug so the machine runs rampant. I strongly believe that the tail wags the dog when it comes to our government. When it comes to our Congressman and Senators, there are good ones and bad ones, but one universal truth is that power corrupts and this machine can be exploited with those willing to use that power.


After the '94 election, the interest groups that made up the Democratic Party were slashing each others throats and alienating the moderates. Consequently, they kept losing elections. During the Bush administration, they came together, and Colorado is the case study. Rutt Bridges and few other wealthy Democrats rebuilt the coalition in Colorado, pushed a favorable redistricting map, and changed the politics in this state. The sad thing is that they successfully recruited moderate Republicans that the conservatives pushed out of the party and consequently took control. The socialists in the Democratic Party moderate there agenda to a certain extent and it is a death by duck bite approach so as not to alienate the moderates, but the eventual outcome is so incredibly disastrous if you believe in liberty. Today, the interest groups that make up the Republican Party are doing exactly what the Democrats did in the 90s. Our losses will continue until we rebuild the coalition (not party, not one interest group's beliefs, but an entire coalition right of center). If the moderates and conservatives are not willing to work together and find common ground, we can just resign ourselves to bitching about it from the outside looking in and watch the American Dream fade into darkness. I have no problem going after corrupt politicians, but if the general view of the party is so negative as shown by the OP, then we are screwed.

I'd say he did a good job... 75 replies to a troll post? mission accomplished

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

X2 if you believe that Great-Kazoo, Buck Farak, and Big E3 should be sitting on the porch of their group home, waving bye-bye to passing traffic with imbecilic grins on their empty moon-like faces, rather than posting from the facility PC they're supposed to use to find car-wash or recycling center jobs.

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This is what happens when you "dial back" the personal attacks?

Is this the new civility that your president promised us after a leftie nutjob shot a Dem congresswomen?

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Originally Posted by MED

I spent my early years working in a congressional office, a think tank, and two state legislatures. I changed careers because I quickly learned there is a problem with the system, and the work was entirely too frustrating. Jefferson was a proponent of a small federal government because it was understood what happens with money and power. The rules that confined the federal government were swept under the rug so the machine runs rampant. I strongly believe that the tail wags the dog when it comes to our government. When it comes to our Congressman and Senators, there are good ones and bad ones, but one universal truth is that power corrupts and this machine can be exploited with those willing to use that power.


After the '94 election, the interest groups that made up the Democratic Party were slashing each others throats and alienating the moderates. Consequently, they kept losing elections. During the Bush administration, they came together, and Colorado is the case study. Rutt Bridges and few other wealthy Democrats rebuilt the coalition in Colorado, pushed a favorable redistricting map, and changed the politics in this state. The sad thing is that they successfully recruited moderate Republicans that the conservatives pushed out of the party and consequently took control. The socialists in the Democratic Party moderate there agenda to a certain extent and it is a death by duck bite approach so as not to alienate the moderates, but the eventual outcome is so incredibly disastrous if you believe in liberty. Today, the interest groups that make up the Republican Party are doing exactly what the Democrats did in the 90s. Our losses will continue until we rebuild the coalition (not party, not one interest group's beliefs, but an entire coalition right of center). If the moderates and conservatives are not willing to work together and find common ground, we can just resign ourselves to bitching about it from the outside looking in and watch the American Dream fade into darkness. I have no problem going after corrupt politicians, but if the general view of the party is so negative as shown by the OP, then we are screwed.

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Finally, an intelligent, thoughtful poster for a change. I make a sharp distinction between the corrupt establishment RINOs and their craven pursuit of big-money donors with agendas, and the GOP itself. The Republican Party is still the best and only real bulwark against socialism run amok. The rejection of the slimeball crony-capitalist Cantor shows that the Republican base is capable of throwing off their complacency and holding their representatives accountable when they sell out, as Cantor and his ilk have done. But the party itself can and must be salvaged, which will require activism, involvement, and financial commitment on the part of the grassroots - and not in billionaire-funded "astroturf" organizations, either. The grassroots organizing campaign that ejected Morse and his fellow Bloomberg minions from office was a brilliant example of ordinary people banding together and saying, "Oh, HELL no!" But we need to hold our own corrupt bastards accountable, as well as those of the Dems.

+1 for the Jefferson quote. His wise counsel to the young republic has never seemed more prescient:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson

And even older wisdom: "Power should be confined to those who are not in love with it." - Plato

Cantor got less than 2% of his campaign contributions from small donors. The rest came from his bankster and corporate pimps:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicia...131&cycle=2014

Not so different from Mitch McConnel, another Wall Street stooge:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicia...0003389&type=I

But in fairness to them, the Clinton clan wrote the book on crony capitalism (remember Hillary's $1000 "investment" that returned $100,000? Or her brothers' hazelnut "investments" in Abkazia?)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...out-money-and-

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-comments.html

Since she left the government last year, Hillary Clinton, 66, has been giving speeches, sometimes for hundreds of thousands of dollars each. Bill Clinton, 67, also makes paid speeches and appearances, receiving $200,000 each in October 2012 from Vanguard Group Inc. and Deutsche Bank AG, according to Hillary Clinton’s disclosures.

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Originally Posted by Cujo0920

Finally, an intelligent, thoughtful poster for a change.

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Surely you meant in addition to your posts...didn't you?

[ROFL2]