Bills in Colorado House to repeal gun laws enacted last year

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Originally Posted by Irving

I just gave me place of birth and SSN to Harbor Freight today to save 1% on a $2 discount tool.

I actually get very nervous every time I buy a gun as I have a unique situation. It's nothing bad, but would take a long time (at least 3 sentences) to explain.

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http://youtu.be/-PjTuSQNLI4?t=16s

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Originally Posted by Irving

This thread makes me want to go buy a gun.

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Don't they all?

C'mon somebody. Answer my valid question, or are you just going to ignore what you don't want to face? Brutal you seem to know all, what's the deal? Where, oh where do the 4473's go? Huh?

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Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker

Tell me please, when a gunshop closes up, where do the 4473 go to then? Are they surrendered to the ATF, or are they destroyed? Then explain to me how the law enforcement agencies are able to trace a firearm to the person it was sold to? Now don't you think so same authorities just hate it when a gun cannot be traced to anyone? Why do you think BG checks are the antis wet dream? Follow it to the logical conclusion. No tin hat, I just don't have blinders on.

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Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker

C'mon somebody. Answer my valid question, or are you just going to ignore what you don't want to face? Brutal you seem to know all, what's the deal? Where, oh where do the 4473's go? Huh?

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I believe they are sent to the ATF.

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Originally Posted by newracer

I believe they are sent to the ATF.

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I don't think they are afraid of answering your question. I believe the FFL retains for 20 years. If they close shop, anything under 20 years goes to ATF. Someone jump in & correct me if I am mistaking. After 20 years the NSA scoops them up. Now, back to your bunker before your location is geolocated.

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Originally Posted by sroz

I don't think they are afraid of answering your question. I believe the FFL retains for 20 years. If they close shop, anything under 20 years goes to ATF. Someone jump in & correct me if I am mistaking. After 20 years the NSA scoops them up. Now, back to your bunker before your location is geolocated.

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Don't mean to add to your anxiety, but some Gun Shops retain the information (Model, SN, date of purchase, etc.) on their computers FOREVER. I am not referring to 4473 some have you fill in online. They retain it for their own purposes. One was able to bring up my name & tell me when I bought a particular firearm several years ago.

FFL must retain 4473's for twenty years or life of the business. If the life of the business is less than 20 years upon cessation of business the FFL must remit the 4473's to the BATFE within 30 days.

So, then by doing a backround check there is a record made with serial number, and owner of a lot of previously not papered, privately owned guns, right? This should be of far more concern than some magazine capacity ban, shouldn't it? Why does that label me as some nut, causing the negative comments on this site? Why are there not more gun folks a lot more worried about the BG law? Seems more threatening to gun owners given the current state of things.

And then what? does anyone really think that information is just destroyed and not entered into a database?

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

FFL must retain 4473's for twenty years or life of the business. If the life of the business is less than 20 years upon cessation of business the FFL must remit the 4473's to the BATFE within 30 days.

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Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker

And then what? does anyone really think that information is just destroyed and not entered into a database?

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I guess I'll worry about it in twenty years. Then again, rapture will come before that right?