Minimum wage increase

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by roberth

I think a reasonably intelligent person with a good work ethic ought to be able to outpace minimum wage fairly quickly.

---

I'm 47 years old and have worked continuously since I was 16 (with a couple breaks in my late teens that add up to a total of maybe 3 months).
Over all that time, I've worked for minimum wage a total of 2 months. The first 30day probationary period at my very first job (at a Wendy's) and the first 30 day probationary period at my second job (busing tables at a Mr Steak). Other than that I never saw minimum wage ever again. I don't think I'm all that special either.

Just by coincidence the paper had a story about restaurants and tipping and the trouble keeping staff at some of the high priced downtown trendy places. It was mostly funny that they were talking about how hard it was to get good help that will work for almost no money. They are going to add a surcharge to cover it. It will work itself out.

^^^^^^^^^
Yep. Current shitty wait staff will now be getting their 20% tip no matter what. What could possibly go wrong. Let's see how much less they give a shit about giving good service now that they know they are guaranteed a 20% tip.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ben4372

Just by coincidence the paper had a story about restaurants and tipping and the trouble keeping staff at some of the high priced downtown trendy places. It was mostly funny that they were talking about how hard it was to get good help that will work for almost no money. They are going to add a surcharge to cover it. It will work itself out.

---

The (ok most of) the owners are the same ones who were with Her or Bernie in 16. Karma my good wait servant, karma

My dad went through basic training back in the early 60s with a guy that waited tables at Tavern on the Green (he got drafted). This guy said he actually had to pay 10% of his tips to the restaurant for the privilege of working there and still had an apartment overlooking Central Park and a shiny new Porsche.

The free market works just fine. Distortions like the minimum wage do nothing but create perverse incentives and make the market less efficient.

People need to read less Marx and Engels and more Hayek and von Mesis.

I know blackjack and poker dealers making $80k+. Good thing they got that increase. [facepalm]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Zundfolge

I'm 47 years old and have worked continuously since I was 16 (with a couple breaks in my late teens that add up to a total of maybe 3 months).
Over all that time, I've worked for minimum wage a total of 2 months. The first 30day probationary period at my very first job (at a Wendy's) and the first 30 day probationary period at my second job (busing tables at a Mr Steak). Other than that I never saw minimum wage ever again. I don't think I'm all that special either.

---

OMG, I worked at a Mr Steak for a spell when I was finishing my senior year in HS. Started as a DW for min wage, then worked into a prep and fry cook position with a small raise. Only time I ever made min wage in my life. Probably a couple weeks.

FWIW, I've collected exactly 2-weeks unemployment ever in my life when I got out of the Army in 1988.

It's also different in booming economies, where people have a larger selection of jobs to pick from, vs. a depressed economy in a small town where you can work at Wal-Mart for shitty hours, in a shitty job for just-above-shit level of pay, or somehow manage with the inadequate sum that social security doles out. You may have noticed that Medicare costs have gone up, benefits have gone down, and yet somehow this year, seniors did not get a cost-of-living raise. Not all minimum wage jobs go to pretentious dope-smoking waiters and waitresses.

[QUOTE=TheGrey;2111573 You may have noticed that Medicare costs have gone up, benefits have gone down, and yet somehow this year, seniors did not get a cost-of-living raise.[/QUOTE]

How true. My dr visits are now Zero co-pay. Which is great, until one realizes co-pays for xrays, specialist have doubled if not tripled. Based on my last co-pay i'd lean towards triple for other than dr visits. SS has gone up, BUT... it's offset by medicare part B&C. Much more payouts than the pittance 3% ish they "gave" me

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

How true. My dr visits are now Zero co-pay. Which is great, until one realizes co-pays for xrays, specialist have doubled if not tripled. Based on my last co-pay i'd lean towards triple for other than dr visits. SS has gone up, BUT... it's offset by medicare part B&C. Much more payouts than the pittance 3% ish they "gave" me

---

That's awful. My Mom was trying to explain that they raised this, but lowered that, all to the tune of zero-sum to help with the higher cost of living. I'm genuinely worried about the older generation; so may people's health doesn't allow them to work much, and the social security isn't covering what it needs to. Couple that with the mass exodus of doctors and specialists that scattered after Mandatory Obamacare tipped the scales, and the world turns to crap.