Don't vote for Gary Johnson

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Bill Whittle makes the best case against the 3rd party protest vote.

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Gotta leave it to Bill for being able to be honest and still get his point across effectively.

"Some people will try to tell you that a vote for ron paul or gary johnson or even no vote at all is a vote for Barak Obama. I may have even said that myself once or twice and for that I sincerely apologize because that is offensive and it's not true. But what is true is that while mugging a person is a crime, standing by idly and not stopping an assault you had the power to stop, while that may not be a crime in itself, but it is hardly a principled position to take."

You're either with Bill Whittle or you're against Bill Whittle. [Coffee]

I was for Bill Whittle before I was against him...before I was for him again.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

5% equals federal funding and a level playing field in 2016.

I should clarify the Johnson campaign didn't create the ad I posted above, it was fan-created.

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If they are a true Libertarian they shouldn't be taking Federal funding for their election.

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Originally Posted by roberth

If they are a true Libertarian they shouldn't be taking Federal funding for their election.

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/sigh. No one should get federal funding for campaigning. However, if you only let unscrupulous bastards write the rules, the rules will always be written in favor of unscrupulous bastards.

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

/sigh. No one should get federal funding for campaigning. However, if you only let unscrupulous bastards write the rules, the rules will always be written in favor of unscrupulous bastards.

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So principles stop when it comes to money.

Thank you for that clarification.

Casting the first stone, are we? How many of you dyed-in-the-wool Republicans and self-described patriots defended the signer of the Patriot Act, then voted for the co-sponsor of NDAA, and are now voting for another guy who supports both?

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Casting the first stone, are we? How many of you dyed-in-the-wool Republicans and self-described patriots defended the signer of the Patriot Act, then voted for the co-sponsor of NDAA, and are now voting for another guy who supports both?

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Le sigh.

I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool (R) - If you had been paying attention you'd know that I wasn't going to vote (R) at all but I...nevermind, I'm not going to explain myself again.

I've never claimed to be a patriot so don't put words in my mouth.

The best way the change this country is from within the established (R).

The (L) is going have another horrible turnout and you only have yourselves to blame.

Obama or Romney: choose one to end the 'evil' that the other represents, right?

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Originally Posted by roberth

Le sigh.

I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool (R) - If you had been paying attention you'd know that I wasn't going to vote (R) at all but I...nevermind, I'm not going to explain myself again.

I've never claimed to be a patriot so don't put words in my mouth.

The best way the change this country is from within the established (R).

The (L) is going have another horrible turnout and you only have yourselves to blame.

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Yeah, that worked out really well for Ron Paul, didn't it?

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. It was a generalization pointed at the general consensus here I consistently argue with. I honestly don't know how to defend accepting a compromise of my principles simply to hope it will make a major impact in changing the country for the better further down the road. Someone else is making the rules right now, and we can either play by them or let them continue to do whatever the hell they want.

How do you figure Libertarians will be responsible for a poor turnout of Libertarian votes? I personally convinced a number of people to vote for GJ who would have otherwise voted for BO or abstained.

See, you're preaching to the choir here.

What the (L) needs to do is get the 40% that aren't here.

The 40% that think the (L) is batshit crazy. Yeah, those people. Pull on your boots and go get the 40% that want some government interference in their lives.

Hint #1 - Don't come at them like you do us here. You want to win them over, not call them names and imply they are stupid, unpatriotic, and all the other demeaning shit you do here.

Hint #2 - Be patient, this is going to be a very difficult task for the (L).

Hint #3 - When you get frustrated remember Hint #1.