People are so ignorant. What happened today that made the late to the party crowd panic and buy up all the FMJ stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
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People are so ignorant. What happened today that made the late to the party crowd panic and buy up all the FMJ stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
Several articles were posted making it sound like Obama is banning ALL 5.56 and going after the AR15 next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
I guess even Rush Limbaugh was talking about Obama banning 5.56 rounds.
It showed up on Fox News and Drudge Report this morning...Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Seriously though, a .22 short is potentially lethal through a car door.
People still listen to Rushbo? [Dunno]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
With all this talk of M855, does anyone have any M955 laying around? That would be interesting to do some testing with. :)
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Originally Posted by hollohas
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Originally Posted by mtnrider
6 text and 4 vm's this morning ALL wanting to know if i would sell them some 223 now that it's banned. MMMMMMMMMMMMM
Maybe i should off load some of my old inventory, pay off the house, go on vacation.
I would not blame you if you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
I'd list it in the TP. But be undercutting everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawin
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Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
Hey that stuff says explosive on the can, it's super dangerous............
I bought a can of 193 when this whole panic started. 855 was all sold out or high priced and the 193 was still normal priced. I figured it'd go next once the 855 went. Ugh.
I have a knife for cutting through car doors.
I have the M855 if you can provide the car door.Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
Car door?? 69gr, 168gr, 500gr... They all work... OK, should work...
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Well, I have been keeping an eye on the green tip and the 193 and pretty much all of the retailers are out of stock. Brownells, MidwayUSA, Cheaper than dirt, etc. are out of stock, no back orders, will notify you IF they get more and their 420 round can prices have risen about $30.00 over what they were a week ago. Armslist prices are even higher but you can buy it if you have the cash. It may be a while before we see any in the stores again and at reasonable prices.
It looks like I picked a great time to get in to reloading.
Even after WEEKS to get the story straight, the "news" folks on 850 KOA this morning reported about the proposal to "ban ALL ammunition for AR15 rifles."
They even played a clip of some Fudd they interviewed who said "why even buy an AR15 anymore if there won't be any ammo???"
So maybe AR prices will be dropping EVEN more? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
The Fudd on the radio actually said that since all the ammo was going to be banned and nobody would buy AR's anymore as a result that the price of AR's would in fact increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
Strong theory, huh? Hahahaha....
Holy crap! Looking at the price of used guns (not just AR's) this week they must be banning everything?
Question is, are people buying said guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
I heard that. I couldn't grasp how lower demand would make for higher prices. Of course I don't have a college education.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
This just reinforces the much-repeated "buy it cheap and stack it deep" that applies to pretty much everything on the firearms market. Buy what you want when the market is soft and supply curves are up so that you'll have what you NEED when demand goes nuts, surge pricing takes off and supply is zero.
These are all fairly simple economic trends, but they get super out of hand when groundswell panic and neckbeard logic starts fucking with the system. WE all KNOW it's just M855 on the chopping block, but the immense game of disinformation telephone that takes place convinces some that EVERYTHING is going to be banned. People remember what happened in '12, and instead of being caught without, they just start buying shit. Those of us with the time and the means tend to monitor the ammo market as a futures investment, and once the prices uptick, we buy a few thousand to hedge against MORE uptick, essentially contributing to the problem. Those of us with big stockpiles dump a bit of ammo on the open market, further influencing the surge / inflated value by pricing our existing commodities against a perceived supply cliff. It's a pretty ruthless cycle from both ends.
Whether it's mags, lowers, complete rifles, ammo, LPK's, etc, this kind of market variance is ALWAYS going to occur when you mix the current political climate with economic uncertainty and bandwagon activism. Whether it's the first Clinton ban, the sunset, the '08 panic, the '12 panic...the market will continue to rise and fall.
So...again...buy LOTS of it when it's cheap, so you won't HAVE to buy it when it's not.
I just entered into a 10 year, several million gallon contract with Conoco to ensure I can keep paying this price for gas for the next 10 years.
Not a bad wager if you can figure out how to store and preserve it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Just bid 27.50 on 2806lbs of 5.56 brass
Local?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Let us know if you win the auction at that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
So much mis-information.
Yep, just had a former co worker asking me if I would buy back an AR I sold him 2 years ago (that he never shot), because "soon all AR ammo will be banned!" told him, yes, for 200$.... He is thinking about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBsnow
He must not be a very good friend or coworker to be willfully screwing him over that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthabagah
Sounds like he deserves it if he wants Ruta to buy something he thinks is worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawin
MidwayUSA has 1000 round of General Dynamics SS109 surplus for $549.99. That is about average Armslist pricing right now.
He deserves it IF he truly believes ALL 223 / 5.56 AMMO IS BANNED. I have offers out to AMMO PANIC owners too, they pay the BGC fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
He is both, and he knew I was joking for the last part... It's only worth 150$ cause soon they won't be any ammo for it! [Sarcasm2]Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawin
The panic is real. Stopped in Wally-world yesterday for some .308, when a guy walks up and is super excited to find they had an ammo can of 5.56 (which turned out to actually be some other caliber) because "ATF is banning all .223 and 5.56." Ok, man. Have fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Little white, wet, cold, pieces of the sky hit me in the face today.
The sky is falling!
Can I interest anyone in a slightly used SkyShield? Attachment 57155
What pissed me off were the emails i got from the NRA. They are basically saying that unless you read the fine print which most people dont. They see the "5.56 ban" headline and think its everything. The NRA did a very poor job with this, they need to be specific, not add to the panic...Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufelhund
I think they are actually attempting to get people to panic in hopes more will write Washington and donate to the NRA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai
Not bad mouthing the NRA, I am a member and mostly like the organization. But their vague bulletins on the ban seem to me like a strategy rather than an oversight.
I agree with you 100%, I am a life member myself, but I think it may be having the opposite effect then they were intending.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas