I could use some help...

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...0auto%20mp.htm


Read the full description on the BCM auto BCG. Nothing wrong with an auto BCG.

i have seen information on both sides on this deal. i understnad that if the rest of the rifle cannot shoot full auto then it should be legal however,
legality aside we are encouraging a guy that obviously has no clue what he is doing. sorry i dont mean to be an ass, but you can bet that i do not want to be standing next to him on the range when his weapon fails. thinks a full auto BCG is just more durable.

it may be more durable, that would depend on the manufacturer,

i read through the posting and it seems that this is just a bad idea without some competent supervision. i have owned an ar for at least 5 years and can take them apart and put them back together easily, i am extremely mechanical have built cars and houses from scratch. i would still want a professional to put my rifle together.

I guess it would be different if he had more of an idea of what a BCG was in the first place.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

hmmmm, not to rain on your parade, but i see a rifle in your future that does not shoot worth a crap. for what your are going to spend in tools parts and time, get yourself a factory built rifle that works properly, your can make it your own at any time, or have a professional build you one. I am not saying that you could not figure it out, but when I see your post asking someone to clarify what a BCG is, i would say that you are a true novice and if you want to enjoy your rifle have it built or by one that is factory built.

Your first AR, you are not even sure what a full auto or semi auto BCG is, I liken this to a first time skydiver wanting to pack his own chute. Dangerous and a waste of money, FTF, FTE, hangfires and any number of other likely and highly dangerous situations are in your future. I think your are unnecessarily placing yourself and others that may be at the range with you in jeopardy.

If you are going to build it yourself get with someone who has at least done them successfully.

you cannot not be building your rifle with a full auto BCG. this is for a select fire build full auto, federally controlled part. please dont continue in this endeavor

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WTF indeed. Untrue, bad advice. STFU and take a chill pill.

Hangfires from a choice of BCG? [LOL]

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Originally Posted by rockhound

WTF guys, i know that we are into giving advice and helping others get into the sport of shooting and enjoying their rifles,

novice shooter, Ar owner, too many questions to be had for this guy to even attempt this, Looking at parts that are illegal to build with. Am i the only one here that wants to discourage him?

Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.

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There you go again with the "illegal" parts. Who's the novice?

The implication that a FA BCG is going to somehow make a weapon potentially "illegal" is laughable at best.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

i have seen information on both sides on this deal. i understnad that if the rest of the rifle cannot shoot full auto then it should be legal however,
legality aside we are encouraging a guy that obviously has no clue what he is doing. sorry i dont mean to be an ass, but you can bet that i do not want to be standing next to him on the range when his weapon fails. thinks a full auto BCG is just more durable.

it may be more durable, that would depend on the manufacturer,

i read through the posting and it seems that this is just a bad idea without some competent supervision. i have owned an ar for at least 5 years and can take them apart and put them back together easily, i am extremely mechanical have built cars and houses from scratch. i would still want a professional to put my rifle together.

I guess it would be different if he had more of an idea of what a BCG was in the first place.

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You are being an ass. Instead of offering constructive criticism and trying to be helpful, you are coming down hard on a new member that's just trying to learn. If you don't have something positive to add, STFU and let someone else help.

The real irony is your own lack of knowledge.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

you cannot not be building your rifle with a full auto BCG. this is for a select fire build full auto, federally controlled part. please dont continue in this endeavor

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That is totally wrong advice full auto bcg is gtg

Also these rifles couldn't be easier to build there is no actual gunsmithing like on an ak or 1911 build its just bolting parts together

If you can change your oil you can build an ar

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Originally Posted by brutal

WTF indeed. Untrue, bad advice. STFU and take a chill pill.

Hangfires from a choice of BCG?

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Dude read the post, I never said the BCG would cause a hangfire,

What i said was trying to build your own AR-15 when you have absolutley no idea what the parts are even called is a bad idea and can cause all kinds of issues.

YOU Cannot read also as i said:
Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.
which is laymans terms of what the ATF says

i undrstand that it also takes other parts to mak it illegal

So you can STFU, if you think that a complete novice should just jump into building their own ar with no professional help you are asking for trouble, even if it does not hurt anyone it will probably cause him to hat platform because his gun probably won't function reliably.

I understand that guys build their own ARs all the time. just jumping on his bandwagnon and telling him which parts would be cool and you like them does not necessarily mean he should do it.

Just because a lot of the guys on this board the guys on this board have the expertise and know how to build their own guns does not mean that newbies should just grab some tools and go for it.

Al i am suggesting to the guy is to be safe and consider some of the things that can happen.

Anyone just telling him to go for it without some consideration for safety is being irresponsible.

Just becasue you know how to do it does not make it a good idea.

If being realistic and pointing out that building your first AR yourself and heading out the range to start blasting away is not necessarily a good idea the I am an ASS. and happy to be one.

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Originally Posted by rockhound

WTF guys, i know that we are into giving advice and helping others get into the sport of shooting and enjoying their rifles,

novice shooter, Ar owner, too many questions to be had for this guy to even attempt this, Looking at parts that are illegal to build with. Am i the only one here that wants to discourage him?

Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.

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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-bolt-carrier/

Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.

he also asked if the durability of the full auto would be better, this not in my opinion a consideration as either should out perform what most of us will ever do with our weapons.

the extra mass affects all kinds of things like cycling rates, buffer requirements etc. and does not mean it is a better piece or more durable, but will definitely change the gun and the parts needed to make it perform properly.

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-bolt-carrier/

Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.

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yes as i said i understand that there are other parts involved.

first page says this guy should go to an armorer, i just said it more fordcefully so i am the ass. :)

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Originally Posted by kidicarus13

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-bolt-carrier/

Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.

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And other select fire parts, and a third hole... It's amazing how some people (not you) get all twisted up over something they know nothing about. [panic]
I guess living in mom's basement, playing COD all day makes someone an AR expert. [fudd]

All my uppers have FA BCG. Some have been run on a registered NFA FA lower.