But they *do* have time to go after FFLs who abbreviate state names.. Makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
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But they *do* have time to go after FFLs who abbreviate state names.. Makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Doesn't exactly give us a lot of confidence in the BATF system - huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by asmo
I have always felt like the FFL's are forced to act as agents (like employees) for the BATF but get zero compensation for all the applications/4473's, filing and record keeping that must be maintained in absolute perfect order that they are truly FORCED to do.
i rather doubt if the FFL's maintaining spotless records are ever recognized for their super record keeping/WORK.
They do get compensation, their business. Everyone in the market must do it so it isn't unfairly on certain sellers. The buyers just pick up the cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlasterBob
merl, you are correct in that the FFL is somewhat compensated by being allowed to be in business and he can remain in that business (as far as BATF is concerned) just as long as he doesn't screw up the 4473's on a chronic basis and if there IS a chronic screwup of completing/maintaining the forms, he can then be put out of business by the Feds. They might not take his FFL license away but they might STRONGLY recommend he give it up and if that recommendation is not followed, they can really be "on his case". You are also correct in that the FFL here in Colorado will be paid for his time for his administrative duties of making the phone contact with CBI and doing all the paper shuffling. However, I believe the FFL's in many of the States, other than Colorado, are still required to complete and maintain the same paperwork but doubt if they are charging $30 - $50 for their service like so many of the Colorado FFL's are reportedly to be charging. I am NOT saying this to be critical of charges being made by the various Colorado FFL's!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by merl
Seems like our Legislators may have figured that the charges for the BCG and the administrative charge made by the FFL might just discourage a good number of transfers from ever taking place. IMHO
Of course, any barrier is a good thing. Buying a gun is often a multi-hour experience which discourages it (the instant check has always been >1hr for me). I don't particularly enjoy waiting in a store for an hour or having to make two trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlasterBob
I bought an AR lower receiver at the last Tanner and the background check took 2 minutes. It took longer for me to fill out the 4473 than it did when the nice lady pressed 'SEND' on her keyboard to get the approval back.
once you figure out most of the violations of the 2nd A and all sort of other crap starts with a licence, it does make senseQuote:
Originally Posted by asmo
What is that anyway? A useless piece of paper, some at extremely high prices, that the State makes you buy in order for them to not fine, jail, kill you. Pay off $ to your neighbor, the government worker
Funny thing is most people absolutely love licenses
Why didn't more of the people show up to say how long it takes. The dipshits that would see us in chains think it takes 2 minutes and $10 to transfer guns. I have never been out of there in less than 2 hours but I thought that was just me.
You must have bad luck? With the exception of Christmas and panic time it has taken me longer to fill out the form then to get the approval. They came back approved almost instantly. Of course I would prefer not do have to do it all all (or have to pay for it).Quote:
Originally Posted by DOC
Bad luck or similar name to somone or my distant past haunting me. Just know the effect is a long wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
Or perhaps the times have been reduced since the $10 fee went into effect?