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Deal with it. It's been coming since the ACA was close to being signed in to law. The government can't dictate it's way out of it's own problems. Let it run nationwide health care [ROFL2]Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
AS i've said numerous times. Want to see how a government health care system works, visit an Indian Reservation. A fucking mess is being too polite.
I may be getting my own insurance soon and am a bit worried about it.
You should be. Plan on an easy $250 per month for you / no family. Unless you go with a HMO like Kaiser. The hidden secret of this whole fiasco is every plan has a subsidy from the feds. Based on what you / family gross, how many in household etc. Amazing they can find an average of $2-500 per household subsidizing you ins plan. YET unable to keep the shitty state CO-OP afloat. Once again forcing everyone in to an eventual single payer plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I suggest you start looking for an in network proctologist, it's going to hurt. Maybe not this year but it's coming and will take more from you on the back end ( Tax time) then most will be ready for.
I'll never go with Kaiser again if I can help it. If this were my website, I'd program a filter so I wouldn't ever have to even read that name again.
Anyway, we already have a high deductible plan (and had to pay it all this year) and that is working out okay so far.
Interesting read. Too bad many people can't think a half step ahead to understand the consequences of their actions.
Obamacare Is Dead
It doesn’t work because it couldn’t work.
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Regardless of whether there is a President Cruz or a President Rubio in January 2017, regardless of the existence or size of a Republican majority in Congress, the so-called Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) has failed. The grand vision of an efficient pseudo-market in health insurance under enlightened federal management — the heart of Obamacare — is not coming to pass. Obamacare, meaning the operating model that undergirded the law that Congress passed and President Barack Obama signed with great fanfare — is dead, and it will not be revived. What remains is fitful chaos.
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Great summary by a Notre Dame University engineer....Here are the 10,535
pages of Obama Care condensed to 4 simple sentences. As humorous as
it sounds...every last word is absolutely TRUE!
1. In order to insure the uninsured, we first have to un-insure the insured.
2. Next, we require the newly un-insured to be re-insured.
3. To re-insure the newly un-insured, they are required to pay extra charges
to be re-insured.
4. The extra charges are required so that the original insured, who became
un-insured, and then became re-insured, can pay enough extra so that the
original un-insured can be insured, so it will be ‘free-of-charge’ to them.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is called "redistribution of wealth"or, by its more
common name, SOCIALISM , or “PROGRESSIVE”, the politically correct
names for COMMUNISM.
sellersm - right on!!! That is EXACTLY what ohshitilostmydoctorcare is all about.
We've seen a 12.5% increase in my premium to keep the same plan for next year. Though my wife is a teacher and gets Kaiser at "reasonable" cost, it would be almost $500/month to add me to her plan, so almost any other plan is cheaper, which is pathetic.
Interesting. Using 2 different computers i did a search for Ins through companies who advertise they provide coverage. Cigna, AARP for starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batteriesnare
Different ages, income etc. Guess where they steered me to? Kaiser P. Forced Ins providers. SHOCKED I TELL YOU, SHOCKED.