Any signs of another panic in gun shops?

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Originally Posted by thvigil11

In a fair fight, yes the middle can be swayed. While I respect your opinion and see your logic, I don't share your optimism or faith with the ability of the NRA or the GOP to deal with the left. Regardless of public opinion on the right, middle or left. This is going to end badly for us gun lovers, with no concessions.

To use another analogy. The liberals are like the bird in the "playing chess with a pigeon story." Unfortunately, the leadership on our side think the game is checkers and are taking strategy from Zap Brannigans Big Book of War.

"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

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It is NEVER a fair fight with the Left but we will absolutely lose if we let the Left paint us as pure obstructionists. I won't talk to the GOP as they've proven their ineffectiveness the past 9 months but the NRA has been very effective in dealing with the Left and I'm concerned primarily with US -- ordinary gun owners -- in swaying the Middle. We have no sway with the Middle if we appear to validate the Left's contention that we're all extremist single-minded psychos (yes, I know, they're looking the mirror when they make these characterizations).

So I was walking the Pueblo Tanner show this afternoon, and walked past a dealer table - from the stock, a real dealer not some yahoo selling the closet's gun rack contents. And he was explaining the law of bump stocks, and NFA to his buddy....

And getting so much of it completely backwards, outright wrong, and in places so utterly confused that I was at the thin, ragged ends of my patience of staying out of it. So I walked faster.

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

So I was walking the Pueblo Tanner show this afternoon, and walked past a dealer table - from the stock, a real dealer not some yahoo selling the closet's gun rack contents. And he was explaining the law of bump stocks, and NFA to his buddy....

And getting so much of it completely backwards, outright wrong, and in places so utterly confused that I was at the thin, ragged ends of my patience of staying out of it. So I walked faster.

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Isn't that one of our biggest problems as gun owners, we don't stay educated and enough on topics within our realm to really argue points correctly and intelligently.

And I agree it's getting old I would have walked away too.

It appears a lot of people are terrified to mention bump stocks. Hickok45 removed his review of the slide fire stock from a year ago. Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.

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Looks like that may have been a one time removal because I see plenty of them listed on there now for ~$500

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

It appears a lot of people are terrified to mention bump stocks. Hickok45 removed his review of the slide fire stock from a year ago. Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.

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Youtube has started giving strikes to users who post bumpfire videos. They're even giving strikes to the old posts. 3 strikes you're out apparently. So a lot of the major gun video guys are pulling the videos so they don't get banned and lose their revenue stream.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...permanent-ban/

I was watching This Week on ABC. A talking head said the Las Vegas shooting killed more people than all extreme muslin killing in last ten years. The sit down between the two ex military congressmen was eyeopening. https://truervine.com/2017/10/08/sun...ha-raddatz-to/. I wish Scott Taylor was in Colorado. I suppose its just part of the cycle.

Islamic extremist killings in the US? Maybe. Anywhere else in the world? Not even close.

What this had to do with Vegas? Nothing. Why did they decide to choose a window of 10 years? Because it leaves out the nearly 3000 killed in the 9/11 attacks.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/165147-...c-in-gun-shops

Would have been a good place to link the article.

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Originally Posted by hurley842002

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/165147-...c-in-gun-shops

Would have been a good place to link the article.

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Agreed. Merged.