85 year old arrested in the middle of the night

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01-05-2013, 01:03
JM Ver. 2.0

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Originally Posted by Ashton

Uh no? I really hope you don't make it through the academy. I'd hate to have you as someone who "protects" the civilians given your obvious biased opinions on things.

I'm not biased at all, sir. For you to assume, and suggest such, is nothing but a lie. You don't know me. You know nothing about me aside from that I know how the Bond Schedule works. Which is what my only comment was.

The way you wrote your comment made it sound like YOU were going to be a bitch. Now, I know you didn't mean that. Why would you call yourself a bitch?

And, if you want to talk biased... That'd be you and anyone else that thinks a person should be treated, in the eyes of the law, any differently because of their age. If you think that, then you would also believe that race, gender, and sexual orientation should also play a factor.
01-05-2013, 01:09
Ashton

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Don't be a dumbass that makes comments about a system that you know nothing about being broken and there will be no argument.

I'm not defending the police, the system, or anything else. I'm simply explaining WHY his bond was set at what it was. You're the one rambling off about how it should be. If you think your way is better, write a letter.

How the fuck old are you? How many political positions have you held? How many laws have you passed? You shouldn't insult other members if you yourself have zero experience in a system that you actually know nothing about. Granted, I could be wrong in my assumptions but I'm guessing you're not a political figure, nor do you have any endorsements that hang on your political stance, or laws that you vote for or against...
01-05-2013, 01:14
JM Ver. 2.0

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Originally Posted by Ashton

How the fuck old are you? How many political positions have you held? How many laws have you passed? You shouldn't insult other members if you yourself have zero experience in a system that you actually know nothing about. Granted, I could be wrong in my assumptions but I'm guessing you're not a political figure, nor do you have any endorsements that hang on your political stance, or laws that you vote for or against...

You don't have a dog in the fight which you just commented on...

DavieD made a comment on the amount of the bond placed. I explained the way the bond system works. It has nothing to do with politics, laws that have been passed, or anything else. It has to do with the Bond Schedule. Which, oddly enough, isn't political at all. Why are you bringing politics into this? And why are you attacking me for something that wasn't even directed at you?
01-05-2013, 01:14
Ashton

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I'm not biased at all, sir. For you to assume, and suggest such, is nothing but a lie. You don't know me. You know nothing about me aside from that I know how the Bond Schedule works. Which is what my only comment was.

The way you wrote your comment made it sound like YOU were going to be a bitch. Now, I know you didn't mean that. Why would you call yourself a bitch?

And, if you want to talk biased... That'd be you and anyone else that thinks a person should be treated, in the eyes of the law, any differently because of their age. If you think that, then you would also believe that race, gender, and sexual orientation should also play a factor.

Your COMMENT(S) implied far more then a simple understanding of the bond schedule that can be googled. You have other comments that are quoted. I wrote a comment stating you're a bitch because you stated a position that I would associate with bitches. Not law enforcement professionals.

Also, if you're scared of a 80+ year old with a cain and you have a gun?... Well... Shit. What the fuck am I supposed to do when a drunk and disorderly starts a fight and he's actually in shape? Guess I'll find you in the corner, waiting until the fight is done to press charges.
01-05-2013, 01:15
Ashton

You're just totally trying to negate everything you've said in this whole thread. I'm done arguing with you. Bitch.
01-05-2013, 01:22
JM Ver. 2.0

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Originally Posted by Ashton

Your COMMENT(S) implied far more then a simple understanding of the bond schedule that can be googled. You have other comments that are quoted. I wrote a comment stating you're a bitch because you stated a position that I would associate with bitches. Not law enforcement professionals.

Also, if you're scared of a 80+ year old with a cain and you have a gun?... Well... Shit. What the fuck am I supposed to do when a drunk and disorderly starts a fight and he's actually in shape? Guess I'll find you in the corner, waiting until the fight is done to press charges.

I'm sorry... Can you quote where I said I was "afraid of an 80 year old man with a cane"? I said, "I'm not one to say if it hurt or not." I didn't get hit with the cane. How the hell do I know if it hurt?

You can call me a bitch all you want. It won't hurt my feelings much. I've been called worse by people that are scarier than you'll ever be.

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Originally Posted by Ashton

You're just totally trying to negate everything you've said in this whole thread. I'm done arguing with you. Bitch.

Personal attacks are always a good out... Have a good night.
01-05-2013, 01:27
Ashton

I don't know how you quote you quoting my other quotes. But you think I'm scary?Awwwwwwwww. Bitch.

Also it's always been a personal attack because I think you're a bitch. Bitch.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Well fuck... I've been mistaken the entire time. I thought that was what the police were paid for.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

You must not understand how bail is set...

EDIT: http://www.denvergov.org/GeneralInfo...6/Default.aspx

Denver County Court Bond Schedule

The bond schedules below have been established by the Denver County Court.

Note: when coming to the Bonding Office to post bond, a defendant will be expected to post the entire bond amount, and may also be assessed one or more of the following fees:

$50 Bond fee per bond posted (excludes Personal Recognizance bonds)
$30 Inmate Processing Fee per booking into the Detention Center
$30 per Outstanding Judgment Warrant (OJW)

Bonds will not be posted unless bond and fees are paid in full.

Credit cards (VISA/MC) are accepted as a form of payment for posting a bond, as long as the owner of the credit card provides a valid form of ID at the time the bond is posted.

DENVER COUNTY COURT SCHEDULE OF BONDS
This schedule hereby sets forth bond amounts for municipal violations; misdemeanors; and felony cases.
Municipal Bond Schedule

Citation

Description

Bond Amount

34-46
Wrongs to Minors
$1,500

38-31(a)
Interference to Police Authority
$500

38-31(b)
Interference with a Sheriff’s Deputy
$500

38-31(c)
Failure to Obey Lawful Order
$500

38-32(a)
Resistance to Police authority
$500

38-32(b)
Resistance to Sheriff authority
$500

38-37
Escape
$1,500

38-43
Violation of Restraining Order
Court Appearance Required

38-93
Assault
$500

38-93.1
Public Fighting
$100

38-94
Unlawful Acts Around Schools (any related charges)
$500

38-114(b)
Harassment Near Health Care Facility
$500

38-117(a)
Concealed Weapon
$1,500

Second or More Offenses
Court Appearance Required

38-117(b)
Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon
$1,500

Second or More Offenses
Court Appearance Required

38-117(c)
Flourishing A Weapon
$1,500

Second or More Offenses
Court Appearance Required

38-121
Discharging/Firing a Weapon-Firearms
$500

38-126 (b), (c) or (d)
Incendiary Device-Explosive
$1,500

38-130
Assault Weapons
Court Appearance Required

38-157
Unlawful Public Indecency
$500

38-157.1
Indecent Exposure
$500

38-158
Prostitution (any related charges)
$1,000

Second or More Offenses
Court Appearance Required

14-33(f)
Domestic Violence
Court Appearance Required

18-18-406(1)
Possession of Marijuana Under One Ounce
$100

18-18-406(3)
Public Consumption of Marijuana
Court Appearance Required

18-18-428
Possession of drug paraphernalia
$100

Traffic Infractions
No Bond Required

All other Denver Revised Municipal Code violations
$100

54-126
Reckless Driving
$500

54-56
Eluding a Police Officer
$1,000

54-159
Drag Racing
$500

Misdemeanor Bond Schedule

Citation

Description

Bond Amount

All Traffic Offenses except for those listed below.
$100

Petty Offense – Class 1
$100

Petty Offense – Class 2
$100

Class 1
$1,500

Class 2
$750

Class 3
$750

12-47-901(1)(h)(I)
Public Consumption of Alcohol
$100

18-3-206
Menacing
$750

18-3-208
Reckless Endangerment
$750

25-14-208(1)
Owner Allowed Prohibited Smoking
$100

25-14-208(2)
Smoking Prohibited
$100

25-14-103.5
Smoking Prohibited Schools
$100

42-4-1301(6)(a)(III)
DUI
$1,500

42-4-1301(6)(a)(II)
DWAI
$1,000

42-2-138(1)(a)
DUR
$750

42-2-138(1)(d)(I)
DUR due to alcohol-related driving offense
$750

42-2-205
Habitual Offender
$500

42-4-1409
NPOI
$750

42-4-1602
Hit & Run
$750

42-4-1402
Careless Driving
$200

42-20-201
Hazardous Material – Transport w/o permit
$200

42-20-305
Hazardous Material – Deviate from route
$200

18-6-801
Domestic Violence
Court Appearance Required

18-6-803.5
Violation of Restraining Order-DV
Court Appearance Required

18-6-401
Wrongs to Children
Court Appearance Required

Felony Bond Schedule

Citation

Description

Bond Amount

Class 1
No Bond

Class 2
$100,000

Class 3
$10,000

Class 4
$5,000

Class 5
$5,000

Class 6
$2,000

Specific Offenses – Regardless of Class

16-13-303(1)(b)
16-13-303(1)(c)
16-13-303(1)(d)
16-13-303(1)(f)
16-13-303(1)(g)
16-13-303(1)(h)
16-13-303(1)(i)
16-13-303(1)(j)
16-13-303(1)(k)
Public Nuisance – Gambling
“” Controlled Substance
“” By Statute
“” Drug Paraphernalia
“” Child Prostitution
“” Sex Exploitation
“” Commission of Felony
“” Eluding
“” Hit and Run

$10,000

18-4-301
Aggravated Robbery
$50,000

18-4-102
Arson
$50,000

18-6-401
Child Abuse with Bodily Injury
$50,000

18-8-208
Escape
$50,000

18-4-202
1^st Degree Burglary of Building (Drugs) or With Assault, Menacing or Weapon Involved
$50,000

18-3-402(1)(h)
Sexual Assault on Helpless
$50,000

18-3-402(4)(a)-(d)
Sexual Assault force, violence, threat
$50,000

18-3-405(2)(a)-(d)
Sexual Assault on a Child
$50,000

18-3-405.3
Sexual Assault on a Child-Position of Trust
$50,000

18-3-205
Vehicular Assault
$50,000

18-3-105
Deadly Weapon Involved With Criminally Negligent Homicide
$50,000

18-3-104
Deadly Weapon Involved with Manslaughter
$50,000

18-3-203(b)or(d)
Deadly Weapon Involved with 2^ndDegree Assault
$50,000

18-3-302(4)(a)(II)
Deadly Weapon Involved with Kidnapping
$50,000

18-3-206(a)or(b)
Deadly Weapon Involved with Menacing
$50,000

18-18-412.5
Manufacture of Controlled Substances
$30,000

16-4-103(1)
Schedule I and II Controlled Substances
$50,000

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Look at my edited post, sirs.... Those would be the bond amounts that are set by the City and County of Denver... The Bond amounts are set by CRIME without any consideration given to the person committing the crime.

Judges aren't around at 2am to set bail. Thus, bail is set by the schedule of bonds. The amount can be increased or decreased by a judge. The bond amount that you are held under when first arrested is a "temporary" bond that is subject to modification by a judge. IF you pay the $50,000 and your bond is reduced, the difference is given back. If you pay the $50,000 and they increase your bond, you are arrested again and held until the remaining amount is paid.

If you want to argue how its done, I suggest you write a letter.

AND! In regards to your two comments.... Neither one of you must understand The Constitution... Mostly you, DavieD, since you don't even have enough respect for it to capitalize it correctly.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I've been saying that for ages....

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Meh. To each their own. Like I said, don't like it? Write a letter.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

If you want to be a bitch that's your business, not mine. I'm not one to say if it hurt or not... You're the one getting hit in your comment, not me.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

For the love of fuck, bro... When you post your worthless banter, please do it correctly so you sound more intelligent. Right now, both your posts make you look stupid. Fix them, then maybe I'll take you seriously. For the record, this has NOTHING to do with the old man getting arrested. This have everything to do with your lack of ability to form a cognitive sentence.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Problem solved. Now you don't look like a bitch.

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Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

Don't be a dumbass that makes comments about a system that you know nothing about being broken and there will be no argument.

I'm not defending the police, the system, or anything else. I'm simply explaining WHY his bond was set at what it was. You're the one rambling off about how it should be. If you think your way is better, write a letter.

Here ya go, Ashton... I've quoted every post I've made in this thread up until you started the personal attacks... No where in there did I say I was afraid of the 80 year old man... No where in there did I defend the police action taken against the 80 year old man...

I stated how the Bond Schedule works, which explained why there was a $50,000 bond.
I said I believe that it actually is the police's job to "look for a crime".
And I said that if DavieD doesn't like the way the Bond Schedule works he should write a letter...

Anything else you want me to look up for you?

01-05-2013, 01:28
sroz

Bed time....hey anyone know a good lullaby?
01-05-2013, 01:32
JM Ver. 2.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashton

I don't know how you quote you quoting my other quotes. But you think I'm scary?Awwwwwwwww. Bitch.

Also it's always been a personal attack because I think you're a bitch. Bitch.

There you go again.. Saying shit that isn't true.. I didn't say you were scary.

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Citation	Description	Bond Amount
34-46	Wrongs to Minors	$1,500
38-31(a)	Interference to Police Authority	$500
38-31(b)	Interference with a Sheriff’s Deputy	$500
38-31(c)	Failure to Obey Lawful Order	$500
38-32(a)	Resistance to Police authority	$500
38-32(b)	Resistance to Sheriff authority	$500
38-37	Escape	$1,500
38-43	Violation of Restraining Order	Court Appearance Required
38-93	Assault	$500
38-93.1	Public Fighting	$100
38-94	Unlawful Acts Around Schools (any related charges)	$500
38-114(b)	Harassment Near Health Care Facility	$500
38-117(a)	Concealed Weapon	$1,500
	Second or More Offenses	Court Appearance Required
38-117(b)	Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon	$1,500
	Second or More Offenses	Court Appearance Required
38-117(c)	Flourishing A Weapon	$1,500
	Second or More Offenses	Court Appearance Required
38-121	Discharging/Firing a Weapon-Firearms	$500
38-126 (b), (c) or (d)	Incendiary Device-Explosive	$1,500
38-130	Assault Weapons	Court Appearance Required
38-157	Unlawful Public Indecency	$500
38-157.1	Indecent Exposure	$500
38-158	Prostitution (any related charges)	$1,000
	Second or More Offenses	Court Appearance Required
14-33(f)	Domestic Violence	Court Appearance Required
18-18-406(1)	Possession of Marijuana Under One Ounce	$100
18-18-406(3)	Public Consumption of Marijuana	Court Appearance Required
18-18-428	Possession of drug paraphernalia	$100
	Traffic Infractions	No Bond Required
	All other Denver Revised Municipal Code violations	$100
54-126	Reckless Driving	$500
54-56	Eluding a Police Officer	$1,000
54-159	Drag Racing	$500