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I am curious to hear some first hand impressions of the RFB and KSG. There's lots online but I trust opinions here. I've never owned a keltec and realize many people say avoid them like the plague, but with rfb as low as 1100 new and ksg as low as 575 new they are actually worth me taking a look at now.
The mdr, tavor 7 and m17s are all over 2k, almost double a rfb. Are they really as much of a crap shoot as people say?
keltec suck
I have a Sub2000 in .40 S&W. Sight height doesn't make it the most comfortable to shoot but using Glock magazines and being able to fold in half makes it a pretty easy carbine to tote around.
Another board that is focused on KT firearms is https://www.thektog.org/
George Kellgren is an interesting guy and has some very novel design ideas. His production facility in Florida seems to be producing firearms as fast as they can but for some of the firearms, demand is clearly out pacing supply.
Wrong sub forum, but...
The KSG is interesting for the size/capacity aspects, but beyond that, I have to agree with BFB.
I don't mind a little polymer but there's just way too much plastic in their lineup. Especially for the price. If the KSG was around $299 or maybe even $350 I'd likely buy one. At $500+ I'd rather buy to 870's and just duct tape them together.
As for the RFB, besides being priced higher than I think a predominantly plastic rifle should be, I actually don't like that it uses FAL magazines. There was a time when those magazines were cheap and plentiful. Seems the Pmags that are everywhere these days might have made a better choice.
I've spent some time behind a buddies Sub 2K it was a pretty nice shooter pretty accurate.
Kel-Tec has great design concepts than need to be manufactured by somebody besides "Plastics R Us".
I totally agree that at msrp they are absurd. I've just noticed they have gone down enough to where it seems semi plausible to try one out. Especially the ksg as it's pretty unique and at 600 or so fairly easy to recoup my money.
I've owned a Keltec RFB for a few years and have no complaints. It's compact with the ballistics of an 18" .308. I bought several metric FAL mags when they were still cheap and easy to find. I used it on a Texas hog hunt and appreciated it's short size when I was in a blind. Got a moving pig at 200 yds with it. The only negative thing I can say is it's heavy.
They are pricey unless you find a stupid good deal. I like my sub 2000. Accurate enough and uses Glock magazines