New gun safe - which and why??

I know this has been beat to death on most every board, maybe even on this one. But that doesn't mean I can't bring it up again.

Need a new safe. Need something big and as fireproof as I can get for a reasonable price (ie. can't afford Graffunder or Fort Knox in the size I need). Narrowed it down to:

AMSEC BF7250
- highly rated by most
- better fire protection than Liberty?? (this seems to be up for debate but they don't use drywall)
- lesser quality or featured interior? haven't seen one but looks to be the case
- not local??

http://www.gunsafes.com/American-Sec...tant-Safe.html

Liberty Presidential 50
- highly rated by some, just another inferior gun safe brand to others
- high fire protection rating that seems valid (but it is just drywall)
- high quality interior (relative to AMSEC) and love the door organizer
- locally available
- looks more like "fine furniture" which the wife likes

http://www.libertysafe.com/safe_presidential.php

Price on both comes out to be about the same, either mail ordering the AMSEC or buying the Liberty locally (RMSS in Ft.Co)..

So, which should I buy??

Also, are there any American Security dealers in northern CO? The "dealer lookup" on their webpage seems to direct you to locksmiths and the one I contacted worked on safes but didn't sell them..

Thanks for any opinions/advice/random comments!

I know that COlo Spr is a drivefrom Loveland, but...
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37813

I know what your going through. Im in the same dilemma, although I'm not looking for a safe as large as you, perhaps 20-30 long guns. Although I do like Liberty, I feel they are a bit high compared to the competition. I have narrowed it down to these two companies.

https://www.patriotsafe.com/

http://www.steelwatergunsafes.com/

Good luck....[Beer]

I had a customer that had his business broken into. They stole the safe out of his office, which held a few guns and some important documents. About a week later he got a call from the police, saying they'd found his safe out in a wooded area not far from his business.

It had been hammered on, cut on, torched on. It was still closed. Per warranty, he shipped it back to the manufacturer. They were able to open the safe. They placed the undamaged contents into a brand new safe replacement of the same model and shipped it to him.

From his experience with the theft and with the manufacturer, I decided to purchase the identical safe.

Liberty Presidential 50

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I spent about a year (my deployment) debating about which safe to get. I eventually decided on a Sturdy Safe (sturdysafe.com). It isn't all pretty on the inside like some with the fancy fabrics, but it is built extremely tough, and that's what sold me.

I am very impressed with liberty safes. I went to there website and watched them try and destroy there safes by any means including dynamite. I am completely sold.

I didn't have a ton of money to spend on a safe so I got a "24 gun" 30-min Cannon on sale ($200 off) from Costco.com for $550, free shipping and arrived in a week. It's not the most burglar proof safe but the price was right and Cannon has a great warranty.

One day I'll upgrade to a safe with a long fire rating and so big that I have to remove a wall from my house to get it in. :)

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Mark,
he will beat that terrible RMSS by a bunch. and delivery will still be cheaper. and he is a nice guy, not like the POSs at RMSS.

i am not actively selling my Liberty Franklin 50, but I would, just to buy at least a TL30 safe.

Thanks for the info. I also received a PM about Mark and gave him a call. Unfortunately Liberty is backed up until the end of summer but I am in no rush so I guess I have more time to research.

I would love a TL-30 rated safe as well but anything big enough is going to cost $7K minimum and probably weigh too much to sit in the house.

I am more worried about fire than theft. I had a 5000lb media safe out of a bank vault (4 hours media rating) where we used to live but it was too big to move. And it took up half the garage.

Still haven't decided if Liberty's fire ratings are as good or better than AMSEC.

I have come to the conclusion that you can't buy a large "gun safe" that is capable of actually stopping theft and preventing fire damage for less than $7-8K. That and quite a bit of luck.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

I didn't have a ton of money to spend on a safe so I got a "24 gun" 30-min Cannon on sale ($200 off) from Costco.com for $550, free shipping and arrived in a week. It's not the most burglar proof safe but the price was right and Cannon has a great warranty.

One day I'll upgrade to a safe with a long fire rating and so big that I have to remove a wall from my house to get it in. :)

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I wanted to order one of these today and now they are not even available at Costco anymore, they were just there Saturday. Dang.

[Rant1]

If anyone happens to be at a Costco and sees one there, throw me a PM will ya? Thanks.