does anyone know anything about ovens??

can someone tell me if this is reasonably safe to do or just crazy internet talk

"The Oven: I've got my oven cranked up to over 800 F. Use this section with caution: i.e. no lawyers please. I'm just telling you here what I did. I'm not telling you what you should do. You are responsible for whatever you choose to do. In Naples, Italy they have been cooking pizza at very high temperatures for a long time. There are some real physics going on here. The tradition is to cook with a brick oven. I don't have a brick oven. So this is what I do: On most ovens the electronics won't let you go above 500F, about 300 degrees short of what is needed. (Try baking cookies at 75 instead of 375 and see how it goes). The heat is needed to quickly char the crust before it has a chance to dry out and turn into a biscuit. At this temp the pizza takes 2 - 3 min to cook (a diff of only 25F can change the cook time by 50%). It is charred, yet soft. At 500F it takes 20 minutes to get only blond in color and any more time in the oven and it will dry out. I've cook good pizzas at temps under 725F, but never a great one. The cabinet of most ovens is obviously designed for serious heat because the cleaning cycle will top out at over 975 which is the max reading on my Raytec digital infrared thermometer. The outside of the cabinet doesn't even get up to 85F when the oven is at 800 inside. So I clipped off the lock using garden shears so I could run it on the cleaning cycle. I pushed a piece of aluminum foil into the door latch (the door light switch) so that electronics don't think I've broken some rule by opening the door when it thinks it's locked. "

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I wouldn't try this.

Only a matter of time until:

1. Film at 11;
2. A Darwin Award candidate

I would not do that. But there is some truth to the statement that really high temps make a good pizza. Outdoor wood-fired pizza ovens get HOT.

I use my gas grill, all burners on high, with a pizza stone to cook homemade pizzas. It doesn't get up to 800deg, but it does get up to 650-700, MUCH hotter than the regular oven. Produces good results for me.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

I would not do that. But there is some truth to the statement that really high temps make a good pizza. Outdoor wood-fired pizza ovens get HOT.

I use my gas grill, all burners on high, with a pizza stone to cook homemade pizzas. It doesn't get up to 800deg, but it does get up to 650-700, MUCH hotter than the regular oven. Produces good results for me.

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thats an interesting idea....what kind of cook times are you getting? edit im in the low 6s with my oven at 525 for an hour and then turning the broiler on

You can get a small pizza oven for the back yard for 1200 to 1800 or build one starting around 500 dont risk your house over it.

Doing that oven mod not only voids the warranty (if any left) but your insurance as well. Even a thousand dollar oven is cheaper than home repairs after a fire. I have considered a wood fired brick oven under my awning since I have a brick patio for pizzas and other baking. Not a bad SHTF item to have either.

...sounds delicious and dangerous

don't be a wuss...DO IT!!!!
FYI:
< Did not stay at a holiday inn last night.

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Originally Posted by cofi

thats an interesting idea....what kind of cook times are you getting? edit im in the low 6s with my oven at 525 for an hour and then turning the broiler on

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I like a little thicker crust so this method cooks in around 5 minutes.

I'm with the "don't do it" crew. Not only will it jack up your gas or electric bill, but unles your oven is a commercial-grade oven, it is courting disaster.

I've got friends that purchased a pizza stone and use it on their grill- the pizza is fantatsic! You can also cook bread on it.

you can go to 550 and get a very nice pizza. call me to find out how.

im not going to do it ill try the pizza stone on the grill for sure first.....but im at the point that its worth risking a house fire for some really good pizza :)

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Originally Posted by cofi

im not going to do it ill try the pizza stone on the grill for sure first.....but im at the point that its worth risking a house fire for some really good pizza :)

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I make a killer white garlic pizza. I also have a killer place in denver for east coast Hot & sweet italian sausage.

ohhh that sounds good jim

Use a torch.

are your potholders / oven mitts rated for that kind of heat?

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Originally Posted by wyome

are your potholders / oven mitts rated for that kind of heat?

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i use a stainless steel pizza peel im not in contact with anything hot :)

My wife uses pot holders. I use my bare hands.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

My wife uses pot holders. I use my bare hands.

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My wife does what i tell her.

800 is the self clean temp on most domestic ovens. So that part is correct.

The exterior will get as hot as the interior eventually

"Hold ma beer"

"Watch this"

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Originally Posted by jim

My wife does what i tell her.

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Least believable "tall story" ever told on this board.

If you mess up your cast iron cooking pans you can clean them completely by running them through the self clean in the oven. Works great. Then you just have the pleasure of reseasoning them.

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Originally Posted by losttrail

Only a matter of time until:

1. Film at 11;
2. A Darwin Award candidate

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+1

Sounds like a great idea at your house.

Not.

pot and/or alcohol HAD to be involved in this adventure....[Beer]

I'm not sure that would void your home owners insurance.

If you do decide to do it, we want video.

I've heard of many people doing this but I didn't want to risk breaking my oven or burning down the house. My oven is old and the temp has a wide swing from where it's set. I set it as hot as it goes and my home made pizzas are done in about 6-7 minutes.

If I had an old oven in the garage I'd probably do it but not in the kitchen.

This was about 7 minutes and it should have been less. It was darker than the picture shows. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24...h_IMG_1678.jpg

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Originally Posted by Stone83

pot and/or alcohol HAD to be involved in this adventure....[Beer]

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he's from the east coast

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he's from the east coast

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anyone not from the tristate does not understand what good pizza how important it is to us :D

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Originally Posted by spongejosh

If I had an old oven in the garage I'd probably do it but not in the kitchen.

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this gave me an idea i have a 50amp breaker outside on a concrete slab.....im going to buy a cheapie oven off craigslist and just do it outside

Just videotape it for us

Nope, not wise at all. I have baked motorcycle parts at 500F to cure hi-temp paint on cases, cylinders and heads. That is good enough I think.

i leave cofi alone while im in europe for two weeks was and this is what is going on...guess ill get a babysitter next time

Kids... Mom we don't need a sitter.
mom... The siters not for you, it's for the guy that tried to burn the @&$& house down!

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Originally Posted by Mama Bear

i leave cofi alone while im in europe for two weeks was and this is what is going on...guess ill get a babysitter next time

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[hahhah-no]

you are going to directly benifit from this pizza experimentation!!!

ok so far i have gotten another 30 degrees out of the oven by messing with the calibration on the oven(hold bake button for 10 seconds) the only other thing im going to do is run a resistor off the tempature probe circuit to get me up to 675-700 and ill be happy there with a steel plate that should get me some nice neapolitan pies :)

that should be safe as its just 150 past what my oven is built for and not the 900-1000 it hits during its cleaning cycle

New thread for pizza lovers: http://www.ar-15.co/threads/102337-The-Pizza-Thread