http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/07...-wedding-cake/
Anybody care to guess how this is going to turn out? I guess you won't be able to refuse service to anybody here soon. Only in the new progressive Kolorado.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/07...-wedding-cake/
Anybody care to guess how this is going to turn out? I guess you won't be able to refuse service to anybody here soon. Only in the new progressive Kolorado.
its going to turn out to be a dupe.[ROFL3]
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/58728-Bakery-Faces-Boycott-for-Refusing-to-Make-Gay-Wedding-Cake
Dupe or not I've been in there several time since this happen, they are right around the corner from me, to show support.
Good people and good cake.
if I was close I would go as well, just like I stop by chik-fil-a every time I get a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
All the bakery has to do, is put a sign up saying they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I've seen those signs at many places before and don't see any problem with it. If I went somewhere and tried to give a company my business and they refused it, I wouldn't sue them for it, though I'm pretty sure I'd make sure my friends know about how I was treated and do my best to take business away from them.
BuffCyclist:
Alas, those signs are illegal in Colorado. Have been a few years now.Quote:
All the bakery has to do, is put a sign up saying they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason
It's Colorado Civil Rights Division regulation 20.4, and the poster in my office that displays it is dated 2002. Somehow, I don't see those great friends of private property and freedom of association Governors Ritter and Hickenritter changing them. Not for the better, anyway.
As the proprietor of a private business, I would react badly, immaturely, and possibly dangerously if I was compelled to make a food product for someone against my wishes...
They'd get their food. Oh yes, and much more.
I've long since grown tired of people whining about being 'victims'. Matters not to me if it's a bunch of jewish kids kicked off an airline for misbehaving or a couple of gays who a baker refused, enough with the "poor me, I'm a victim, I'm running and telling someone to sue you!". Life isn't fair, get used to it, my sympathy-O-meter doesn't register.
+1
what else would you expect from a generation that was taught that everyone gets a trophy and no one ever looses?Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
Hit the nail on the head.
"I'm sorry, I wasn't aware we re-instituted slavery for the gay masters, I'll get right on it."
Actually, it's been flourishing in SF for years. Just ask any upstanding fellow in the tenderloin, wearing a dog collar and ballgag.
Mr Slave says so too.
In furtherance of the above, all this suit is doing is a money grab. They can't actually force the cake company to bake them cakes, they can just sue them each time they refuse. My biz law prof explained that the anti-slavery amendment is why you can't sue someone to perform an action, just sue them for monetary compensation.
Oh really? Well my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
Exactly, just because you can't refuse them service, doesn't mean there are laws that dictate WHAT goes into the food. Sure, you could get in trouble if you laced ti with soemething dangerous, but putting too much salt in a cake would make it taste like shit and it would ruin their "big day".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo
Agreed. I hate the mentality that my generation (and younger) has. Its all gimme gimme gimme. I don't have to do anything to deserve it but gimme because I'm entitled to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
I do wish the ACLU would get this uptight about people who want to exercise their second amendment rights. But alas, it's perfectly legal to refuse service to someone who carries.
That having been said: Does this bakery call the minister/pastor/priest of every heterosexual couple that comes in wanting a cake, to determine they are worthy? Have they saved themselves for marriage, or have they indulged - perhaps even been living together? Are they tithing the required 10%? Naturally, it would only bake cakes for first marriages. If the bakery is going to only bake cakes for couples who don't run afoul of their Christian values, one must assume that it at least hits the other high points in setting the bar. There's more to it than just homosexuality.
Has nobody ever told people that you DON'T piss off the people in charge of making your food?
THIS VERY THING is what opponents of gay marriage have been warning about and when they do, gay marriage supporters poo-poo the notion as tin-foil-hattery.
This happens a lot:
- Leftists propose X
- Conservatives point out that X has side effect N
- Leftists accuse conservatives of lunacy for thinking N could ever happen
- X passes
- FIRST THING leftists do is N.
The disgusting truth is that the leftists often don't actually care about X, they wanted N all along but could only get it passed by doing X.
We're dealing with devious people here.
Got it. The fact you're gay makes it more important and makes you special because your feelings were hurt. It's all about you and your little gay boyfriend because you have special beliefs. Fuck the rest of us...we don't get to have beliefs and values or feel "dehumanized and mortified" if forced to compromise those beliefs.Quote:
"We were all very upset, but I was angry and I felt dehumanized and mortified," Mullins said.
I tend to feel less and less sympathy for any special cause because of bullshit like this.
I do not oppose gay civil unions.
With that being said this whole thing is bullshit and those two little queens are just whiny trouble making little bitches. The baker is just as entitled to having his own beliefs as the little gay boys are. If the baker doesn't want to make a gay wedding cake because he doesn't support gay marriage or gay civil unions then that is his right and they should have taken their business elsewhere without incident.
How much coverage do you think the news would give to someone who had a bakery refuse to make them a gun cake? I'll bet it has happened several times but we've never heard of it happening because the leftist media only supports their leftist agenda and could give 2 shits about honest and equal rights anymore.
Well it's apparent I don't know shit about the law because I don't see how this doesn't get tossed immediately. Even if a judgement were to go against the bakery, wouldn't it just be a judgement for any monetary losses? And since there was no work promised, no money exchanged, and there are a shitload of other options available, wouldn't the judgement be $0 ?
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I don't know why, but I feel like STUMPING on this particular Cigarette.</p>
That's the point, under our system of political correctness the baker does NOT have the right to his own beliefs if they run afoul of "special groups".Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDee
Ultimately the goal of political correctness is to codify their belief system into law and make disagreement with them illegal. All the while using freedom of belief as their weapon.
Under the left, gays have unconditional rights whereas non-gay people's rights are conditional upon their opinion of gays. Same thing goes for women or minorities as well.
It's all a ruse to eliminate the right of individual Americans to live their lives according to their own beliefs.
Two easy steps:
1) Outlaw "hate speech"
2) Define dissent as "hate speech"