Boulder to institute 10-cent bag fee for paper/plastic- aka Boulder= full retard

That's right, Boulder just went full retard. They're enacting a 10-cent fee for paper and plastic at grocery stores within the limits of Boulder- so byob or pay the fee... my question is, is it 10 cents per bag, or per trip?

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BOULDER - Grocery shoppers in Boulder will have to pay a 10-cent fee on paper and plastic bags starting Monday under an ordinance approved by the City Council.The City Council voted 7-0 to approve the measure on a fourth reading in November 2012.
The fee will apply to paper and plastic bags at food retailers, including grocery stores, convenience stores and Target. Gas station stores will be exempt if food sales are less than 2 percent of their business.
Retailers will keep 4 cents of the fee to cover their costs of administering the program. The city plans to use the rest of the money to pay for outreach about reusable bags and to distribute free reusable bags to low-income residents. http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=343015

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In most places I have been to that have this law, it's the price per bag, not per transaction.

May Staphylococcus Aureus be the hand of Darwin in Boulder. <this is a link you can click on :D

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

That's right, Boulder just went full retard.

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It's been this way for years now but instead of calling it a 'bag fee', you were given a 'bag credit' if you brought your own. It monetarily works out the same way but now has a new name.

Now I need to figure out where to get my doggy pick-up bags....

I recall a study a few months back saying that reusable grocery bags had higher probability of being contaminated with ecoli and other bacteria. Clearly Boulder is trying to get their people sick! :P

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Originally Posted by RblDiver

I recall a study a few months back saying that reusable grocery bags had higher probability of being contaminated with ecoli and other bacteria. Clearly Boulder is trying to get their people sick! :P

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You mean like the link in post #3 above? They'll blame it on the cantaloupe or meat or lettuce or something else...

Durango is desperately trying to head in this same direction

If the idiots at the stores would put more then 2-3 items in each bag, there wouldn't be such a litter problem. The way they bag groceries these days is absurd.

Lots of cities around country do this.

Yep, lots now and lots more to come. San Francisco had this when I was there last week. It's $0.10 per bag, per transaction.... get 10 bags of groceries and you pay an extra buck straight to the city. Want your milk double bagged, you just spent an extra $0.20...

I find it funny that gas stations are exempt ....

They wanna put all your stuff in a bag all the time ...


what you can't carry the two cans of soda you just bought with your hands ????

I try to avoid bagging when I can but you can't at the grocery store.

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Originally Posted by colorider

If the idiots at the stores would put more then 2-3 items in each bag, there wouldn't be such a litter problem. The way they bag groceries these days is absurd.

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No doubt, I always ask for paper bags as they seem to pack more into them.

"And going to use the rest of the money to distribute reuseable bags to low income residents." What??? what is cheaper than the reusable plastic bags I give you at the grocery store?

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Originally Posted by Sawin

Yep, lots now and lots more to come. San Francisco had this when I was there last week. It's $0.10 per bag, per transaction.... get 10 bags of groceries and you pay an extra buck straight to the city. Want your milk double bagged, you just spent an extra $0.20...

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Why are you bagging milk? Doesn't it have a handle for a reason?

yo, clerk boy, go get a couple boxes and put them in boxes.

bitches

no way am I paying a FUCKING TAX to the damn city for such a common item (and I do agree with the earlier post about the way they bag items today is stupid, 1 item per bag almost)

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Originally Posted by kawiracer14

Why are you bagging milk? Doesn't it have a handle for a reason?

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hahaha, good question. I don't, but for some odd reason I have definitely been asked that question on multiple occasions, so clearly lots of people out there do....

I would be interested is seeing how much it curbs bag use. Sounds more like another revenue source disguised feel good legislation.

Driving E. Colfax, between Aurora and Bennett, there are thousands of plastic bags in the fencing and stuck in the grass/weeds. Sad to see but I doubt a new tax would fix the problem.

At least they didn't do anything really stupid, like tax candy and sodas.

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Originally Posted by kawiracer14

Why are you bagging milk? Doesn't it have a handle for a reason?

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hahaha, good question. I don't, but for some odd reason I have definitely been asked that question on multiple occasions. So clearly lots of people out there do bag their milk....I know i've seen busted milk jugs in the parking lot before too. Single bag fail maybe?

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Originally Posted by kawiracer14

Why are you bagging milk? Doesn't it have a handle for a reason?

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Well, I used to use a backpack, but if a person's riding their bike to the store, it'd be easier to transport in a bag (which you could, say, slip onto the handlebars) rather than trying to hold onto the handle the whole way.

Experienced the fun today at King Soopers during my lunch break. After paying (including the 10 cents) and walking towards the door, the self checkout overlook person came running after me "sir did you pay for the bag!?!"...full retard in affect

I went to Seattle few month ago. I didn't want to pay 10 cents, so I just carried the damn merchandise.

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Originally Posted by kawiracer14

Why are you bagging milk? Doesn't it have a handle for a reason?

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I bag my milk because I can carry two gallons of milk along with a dozen other bags, if I rely on the milk jug's handle then I can't get a grip a second gallon jug and bunch of bags. It's my God given right as an American to make only one trip from the car to the kitchen :D

Actually it's my God given right as an American to NOT have the government try to impose its "morality" on my with stupid fines, fees, regulations and laws. Take your Cass Sunstien "nudge" Bovine Scat and leave me the hell alone. I AM NOT HOMER FUCKING SIMPSON AND EVEN IF I WAS IT'S NOT THE PLACE OF A BUNCH OF SELF-RIGHTEOUS, PETTY BUREAUCRATS TO GUIDE MY EVERY FUCKING MOVE!

Besides that I have cats, so I like my free bags for litter box cleaning.

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Originally Posted by griebel303

Experienced the fun today at King Soopers during my lunch break. After paying (including the 10 cents) and walking towards the door, the self checkout overlook person came running after me "sir did you pay for the bag!?!"...full retard in affect

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I was wondering about this- How do they know, if you're using the self-checkout, how many bags to charge for? Or is that going to be separate? Like a hall monitor at the end counting your bags and asking for their $.40... To which I would apologize and say that I don't have any spare change and pretty sure I'm not charging 40 effing cents on my debit card.

When I was in Taiwan a couple years ago there was a one dollar fee for a bag, which is about 4 cents in USD. It extends to plastic cups and plastic forks and such so you didn't see them very often. Even that little fee pushes a lot of people away and saves over 14 billion plastic bags alone. That's quite a lot of oil saved that can be put to better use.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I was wondering about this- How do they know, if you're using the self-checkout, how many bags to charge for? Or is that going to be separate? Like a hall monitor at the end counting your bags and asking for their $.40... To which I would apologize and say that I don't have any spare change and pretty sure I'm not charging 40 effing cents on my debit card.

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It's on the honesty/hall monitor system. At this self checkout you had to enter the quantity you were going to use before you could proceed to the payment...and then get hounded on your way out to make sure the receipts match the bag total. So ridiculous haha

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Originally Posted by griebel303

It's on the honesty/hall monitor system. At this self checkout you had to enter the quantity you were going to use before you could proceed to the payment...and then get hounded on your way out to make sure the receipts match the bag total. So ridiculous haha

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Very ridiculous. All it's gonna take is one instance where someone used 5 bags, but paid for 4... is the store going to report them for shoplifting? "Oops, I already paid but don't have any spare change." Think they'll let it slide? I think someone in Boulder might make a stink about this- more likely there than most other places in this state.

It wouldn't be so bad if they had refund system in place so I could bring my grocery bags full of grocery bags to Boulder and get $0.10/bag refund.

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Originally Posted by meatman

It wouldn't be so bad if they had refund system in place so I could bring my grocery bags full of grocery bags to Boulder and get $0.10/bag refund.

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Don't count on it... at least not for long. That sounds like a money maker to me. I bet we could find someone who manufactures such bags for fractions of a penny and "return" them for profit...

Most countries I've been to in Europe over the years do that as well. Who cares just take some bags with you. If you want to have some fun with this then take a 55 gallon contractor bag with you and have them use that for your milk and bologna.

Keep one or two of those rubbermaid bins in the trunk of your car. At checkout, explain that you refuse to pay the extra tax and that you need assistance getting your groceries to the car. The high school kids gets to haul your shit to the car in the shopping cart and load it into your bins for you. (It creates a job! It must be good!)

I don't have children, never will. However, for those that do, it's not such a bad idea for the future.

I don't care about global warming one way or the other (I won't be around for it and have no offspring that will either), but my point is that for those that have spawned future generations, planning ahead isn't such a bad thing for your kids. The bag fee doesn't really impact me as we've been using our own canvas bags for many years. I benefit from others tossing their plastic bags away as I use them to pick up after my dogs, but if I had kids, I think the reduction in landfill would be a good thing. But alas, I don't have kids and how y'all's kids cope with the future ain't my problem :)

In the grand scheme of things, plastic bags represent a tiny fraction of landfill space. And we have no shortage of landfill space by the way. That's yet another myth propogated by the left. And how many grocery bags can fit inside the bed of a pickup? Several thousand? I bet there are a hundred pickups going to BFI every day, and they aren't full of plastic bags.

Discarded plastic bags do make for an eyesore, and I am one who despises litter.

I use the bags from the B&F grocery store in Ned for doggy stuff, diapers, garbage bags when backpacking, wet/dirty clothes when camping, etc. I reuse almost every one of them.

Yep. Boulder = full retard (again)

So, I've seen plastic bags that are small (fit a 6 pack in them)
I've seen bigger plastic bags (Fits a 12 pack)

Do you know if this new law has any restriction on "high capacity BAGS"......???

" is it 10 cents per bag"....back in the day, that's a dime bag.....[ROFL1]

We reuse all our bags poop scoops.....little trash bags etc

I wonder why this doesn't apply to retail stores like REI?
I shouldn't give them any ideas....