Anyone here ever done a juice diet?

I started Monday and lost 3.8lbs within 24hrs. After 5 days I'm down over 11lbs. The plan is to do this for 60 days and the hope is to trim 60lbs within that time-frame. Once I'm finished I will do a complete overhaul of my diet in order to get healthier. I've watched a lot of videos and done a lot of research and so far this has been fantastic for me. I haven't been as hungry as I thought I would be and being in Ketosis has just melted the fat off. My shorts/pants fit better already and I'm one notch tighter on my belt and it's loose. I started at 290.8lbs and am already into the 270's after barely 5 days of taking nothing but juice and water in. My activity has been limited since I started and I'm not sure if this is why some complain of headaches and other side effects. I don't get headaches so if I start to get them while on this diet I guess we know what caused them. So far it's been fine though and the first few days seemed to be the hardest as far was food cravings go. In all, I feel great and it's not as bad as I was expecting based on what others had said.

So, who else is currently doing or has done a juice diet? Curious what results others had.

You using a juicer?

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Originally Posted by nikolatesla19

You using a juicer?

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Not yet. The juicers I'm interested in start at $300 so it was an investment I wasn't going to make until I was sure it was going to get used. It's also more expensive to make your juice that way even factoring out the cost of the machine itself. Instead, what I've been doing is buying Bolthouse Farms juices and using those instead. They taste good and are packed with vitamins and such plus flash pasteurized which is a good thing. I've read they're not no-GMO but at this point that's not a huge concern of mine but if it is one of yours it's something you may want to consider. Some recommend Naked juice but I prefer the taste and flavors of the Bolthouse Farms better and to me staying with this diet is more important than saving GMO's and possibly falling off of the diet because I can't stand the juice after a few days.

Hit up craigslist for a juicer.

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Hit up craigslist for a juicer.

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I've had my eye on them for a while now so if I decide to her one I may.

I have done a beer and liquor diet...


Or is that just called a bender?

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Originally Posted by tmleadr03

I have done a beer and liquor diet...


Or is that just called a bender?

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Yeah, I don't really think the word 'diet' belongs anywhere in there except to say this is the opposite of a...[Flower]

Loosing 60lbs in 60 days while it sounds great is not healthy at all.

Yeah not too good on the body and if you Dont do it right I would imagine you will gain back what you lost plus some since the body is feeling deprived and wanting to get back to where it was comfortable.

60lbs in 60 days is not healthy at all. When I was in the military I lost 18lbs in a month and even after that I felt like crap but I was running and lifting most every day.

A healthy pace to lose weight is usually 2lbs/week. And also remember it's healthier to exercise and go on a diet too instead of just running a calorie deficit by starving yourself. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fas...t-loss/AN01621

Listen guys, I'm not a spring chic. I've been around the block as far as working out and dieting. I realize all the basic fundamentals but being 300lbs isn't healthy either. I've tried working out and dieting for years and am tired of getting nowhere.

When I was in my 20's I ate right and worked out 6 days a week like a beast. I used to play basketball (full court) for hours every day too and when I look back I was always fatter than my buddies even with all the effort I put in. Fast forward a decade and things have gotten worse and working out and dieting was good to only maintain and never got me anywhere. It was to the point where I was injuring myself and then I'd be out for months. The last two injuries were shoulder injuries doing what I would consider to be light weight and I didn't feel anything at the time of working out to indicate I did something wrong instead I woke up the next morning in pain which lasted for months. Both times it took me almost 8 months to fully recover. In both instances I was only a few months back into working out and started with light weights and hadn't even increased my weights that much to avoid injury.

My current life doesn't allow for me to plan a schedule or a diet and do it the better way so this is my option. The plan is to get down to a reasonable weight and then slowly re-introduce healthy foods in small portions and working out to see if I can maintain. Do some research and you will find LOTS of people who have done exactly this. They do a juice diet to get down to a reasonable weight and then use that time to clean the desire for crappy foods and large portions out of their lives and then replace with healthy foods and exercise. That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying this is for everyone but I'm not some 20 year old kid looking for the short cut. I've done it all and am still horribly unhealthy (even though I'm stronger and have better cardio than most of my friends my age) so for me this is an extreme change from what I've done for years in an attempt to drastically change something.

If I drop the weight I'm planning to drop and in the process learn to eat better or train my body to crave good foods it can't be all bad. Granted, I wouldn't recommend this for everyone but for some people it can be a means to an end.

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Originally Posted by sniper7

Yeah not too good on the body and if you Dont do it right I would imagine you will gain back what you lost plus some since the body is feeling deprived and wanting to get back to where it was comfortable.

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I'm not starving myself. I'm supplying my body with nutrients and vitamins via vegetable & fruit juices. I'm just not eating food. This forces the body into ketosis which is burning fat for energy instead of depending on food intake for energy. Once I get to a more reasonable weight I will start to introduce healthy food back into my diet and hopefully by then my situation is such that I can make the time to work out and be more active. Until then this is the best immediate action I can take. There are TONS of people online who have done what I'm currently doing and I'm having a hard time finding horror stories. Most people are able to get off of ALL of their meds and are substantially more healthy once they're done than when they started. I'm not attempting to navigate uncharted territory here and I'm not starving myself either. My caloric intake has simply been reduced to veggie and fruit juice. If I feel at any point I'm endangering myself I will stop. At this point I feel great though and feel like this is the way for me to keep from breaking the 300lb mark.

I've done it and had great results. I did juice only for the first 7 days and then incorporated salads, fruits, nuts and such along with my juice. Basically stating to a raw diet. It can be very difficult and you have to plan well as if you are out and about and need to eat there's no raw fast food joint. I will also point out that you will become sensitive to regular food and it will make you feel like shit if you eat it. You'll want to supplement with vitamins and such. You will feel much better, begin to regain energy, and your food (if you are eating raw) wont affect you like regular food does.

I got off of it and really need to get back to it.

Let me know how the diet goes.
I gained too much weight after taking some hydrophilic medication plus arthritis.

Meanwhile, I will do the diet called "no money diet"
$1 side salad.

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Originally Posted by Jer

Listen guys, I'm not a spring chic. I've been around the block as far as working out and dieting. I realize all the basic fundamentals but being 300lbs isn't healthy either. I've tried working out and dieting for years and am tired of getting nowhere.

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Have you tried just counting calories vs exercising?

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Originally Posted by Jer

My current life doesn't allow for me to plan a schedule or a diet and do it the better way so this is my option. The plan is to get down to a reasonable weight and then slowly re-introduce healthy foods in small portions and working out to see if I can maintain. Do some research and you will find LOTS of people who have done exactly this.

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If you are going to do it anyway, why not just do it now? A lifestyle change is the only way this works, if you're going to do it little by little, why not just start there?



Anyway, yeah, we have a juicer. My wife never met a kitchen appliance she doesn't like.
I've invented some pretty cool juices, but I sure don't use it very often. It is a great way to turn a lot of fruit into a little fruit and a ton of servings into 1 serving, but they taste great and are healthier than store bought juices. IMHO, only.
Vitamix = better, you can do more with it like make soups, smoothies, dips, shakes, etc.

Everyone talking about losing weight too fast being unhealthy, well, you're right but that's more for people or just need to drop a little. When at 300 lbs it's not as bad to drop fast, you just have to be prepared for the regain.

you sure you're in ketosis? You gotta have crazy low sugar in take for that and those bolthouses are loaded with sugar. I did a ketosis diet for a week and I took in 20 grams of carbs a day, which meant zero fruit or juice. One piece of fruit basically took me out of ketosis. I think it's more likely you are just runnin a large calorie deficit.

i did a 21 day cleanse (standard process) and modified juice diet and dropped 38lbs. the cleanse allowed all you could eat fruits/veg at a 2:1 veg to fruit ratio. i juiced 90% of the fruits/veg i had during that time.

i use a breville juice fountain plus (JE98XL)--it was $149 at bed/bath/beyond, and you can regularly find 20% off coupons for BBB--bringing it to $130. It'll juice anything you want it to except lemongrass (it'll do kale, beets, whatever you can throw at it). go to http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/ for some recipes once you get the juicer.

that juicer has no problems making 4 quarts of juice in the morning at all. i have a mean green and carrot/apple/ginger each day.

If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.

FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.

There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.

I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.

Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......

For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/289122
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/

^ completely agree. My brother has digestion issues and the doctors told him that he would have to be on medication for the rest of his life. A week after starting a juice routine he had no more issue and was off the meds. As spyder said you'll catch a lot of bs by those that don't know. The only real way to know what it does is to do it, those that haven't just won't understand. I would also recommend watching The Gerson Miracle.

Juiceing diets are great but I wouldn't leave out lean complete proteins, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats or complex carbs all together.

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Originally Posted by DavieD55

Juiceing diets are great but I wouldn't leave out lean complete proteins, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats or complex carbs all together.

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you can leave them out for a short time. i wouldn't do it any longer than 3-4 weeks though. after that you just need to modify the diet appropriately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZMERUKErGE

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Originally Posted by spyder

There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.

I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.

Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......

For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead.
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/

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Cool post. I used to have a juicer. Wish I still did. I used to juice 5 carrots and 5 sprigs of parsley in the morning. If you were closer I would take you up on your juicer. BTW that was my natural energy drink.

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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03

If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.

FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.

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www.rebootwithjoe.com is the website for the guy's juice recipes. he used the same juicer i have in the movie--hooked up to a power source in his car. i draw inspiration from that fat trucker that lost all the weight in the movie and measured it in bowling balls. now, on a hike or bike riding, i just consider i'm not carrying two bowling balls with me.

The Master Cleanse

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-lemonade-diet-master-cleanse-diet

my wife did this over 10 days and lost upwards of 20 lbs. I tried it for about 2 days and almost s#!t myself to death. The cayenne pepper was my fav... It blew my ass up... Literally!!!

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Cool post. I used to have a juicer. Wish I still did. I used to juice 5 carrots and 5 sprigs of parsley in the morning. If you were closer I would take you up on your juicer. BTW that was my natural energy drink.

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I will honestly say, it changed everything for the better. I just wish I could have held out on it.... I love food though, and ended up not juicing much. There have been many people, thousands that have gone on a complete fast for several months, and were never healthier. Body fat contains fat soluble vitamins, and nutrients. What it doesn't contain is water soluble vitamins, such as vitamins C, thiamin, niacin, riboflavin, tryptophan, biotin, and folic acid. All of which you get from the veggies though. Now, vitamin B12 is harder to get. For that, you should put some spirulina in your juice. With this, your metabolism will speed up like you were an all star track and field athlete. Your body fat has everything but the protein that you need to build, and restore damaged muscles. If you are doing rigorous activities, you would want to supplement bee pollen into your diet. Pollen is the most soluble protein source you body can have, period. You will get more protein from one teaspoon of pollen, than a 20 oz steak. The steak has a lot more protein in it, but, your body has a hard time breaking the tissue down.

If you're going to do this, do it right . . . get a juicer. Until then, at least use a blender for smoothies . . . Bolthouse Farms is a mediocre product, it's not bad, but you don't want to try living off it. Like spyder said, bee pollen is a great supplement, and whey or egg protein powder can work too. Egg beaters and vegetable soup can be added to your diet as well as juice.

Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.

Imma try this.

Wife does the juice thing on and off with a juicer, but only in 5-7 day increments. As mentioned. That's a lot of weight in a short period of time. Not healthy nor a good idea. Congrats on your progress so far. I recommend supplementing with actual fruits and veg.

I do a 5-10 day detox every couple of months depending on my travel schedule. The key is to cut out caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and all the other bad shit you get from eating regular processed foods. I go all organic fruits and veggies, and yes you have to juice them yourself. I lose a couple of pounds, but unless I am exercising regularly it usually comes back after resuming a solid food diet. I think the mistake people make is thinking of it as a diet, that will get them into a smaller pair of jeans, which it can, if you are aggressive, but you generally gain most of the wait back. I just view it as a time to clean my body, colon, build my immune system, etc. But to each their own, there are a million strategies out there, probably something that works for you.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.

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You can supplement with bee pollen, you can get it from the Vitamin Cottage/Natural Grocers and a few other places. If you weight lift, bee pollen is the best thing for you also.... Like I said, it's the easiest protein for your body to break down, and use. The last three weeks I did the diet, I couldn't stand not eating, so, I ate only meat... Still lost an average of a pound a day till I stopped juicing. I didn't gain any back for a long time, even after I started eating out and everything again. It took over a year to gain anything back, and it's my fault for going back to my old ways. If I would have stayed healthy, I would still have it off.

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Originally Posted by USAFGopherMike

Wife does the juice thing on and off with a juicer, but only in 5-7 day increments. As mentioned. That's a lot of weight in a short period of time. Not healthy nor a good idea. Congrats on your progress so far. I recommend supplementing with actual fruits and veg.

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You don't know what your talking about. Where do you get the information that your body processing body fat is unhealthy for it? You are not starving your body of anything that it needs to survive other than the nutrients you can give it through juicing. Eating fruits and vegies is not better for you either.... You don't gain anything from eating it, compared to juicing it. You do however gain more by juicing. You can fit 4 or 5 apples by size into a cup, as equally as one. In the juice form, you body can easily break it down and doesn't have to deal with the fiberous material from eating the actual fruit, so it can use the energy more efficiently to break down the items in your stomach (juice). As long as you are smart with it and supplement a couple items that vegetables can account for like B12, and protein (which I've already discussed), juicing is perfectly healthy for you, even in long stints. It will be the most healthy thing (food wise) anyone can do (as long as you have body fat to supplement your calorie needs).

Also, if you do this for a long stint, it will reset your metabolism. The week, or two things that people do, are not long enough for your body to get into a natural order.

What if you only need to lose 20lbs?

It looks like I'm getting a juicer. I've watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead before and the wife and I are watching it again now. Time to make a change.

Reading this with interest! I need to print this thread out and study it. I'm about 150lbs. overweight and really sick of hauling it around. I think of it as having three (!) 50lb. bags of Quikcrete mix attached to me all the time. Every move I make, all that Quikcrete goes with me. It's really quite depressing and demoralizing.

Day 6 update and then I will address the posts individually since they're rather long so multi-quote will make for the worlds longest reply I think.

I'm now down 13.8lbs since Monday. Now I'm noticing that I'm swimming in my shirts that fit me last week. That's just crazy to think of. I've had my first round of negative experiences but it's all been due to things I could have controlled. Background: I've been on prescription heartburn meds for about a decade now. This started when I started putting on weight and rather than tell me to lose weight the doctor put me on a medication. The only one I'm on in fact. A lot of people don't realize that when you put on fat and grow out.. you're growing in too. This means that your stomach is constantly being restricted and also why you don't see too many fat competitive eaters at the top level. You can expand more when you don't have fat pressing inward. This is most likely what has caused my heartburn all this time rather than some medical condition that needed treated with medications. One of the goals was to get off of the dependency for this medication and so I stopped it last week after the first day.

Things went fine for a few days but my guess is that it took that long for the medicine to get out of my system and my stomach to start producing acid at the levels it once had and probably even more. On top of that I think my stomach is shrinking it a more rapid rate than I had anticipated. This means that I was drinking too much water & juice (which is also acidic) and all of this made a perfect storm where I had some of the worst heartburn I've had in my life. On a hunch I quit drinking juice and water last night and it did get better so I'm thinking now I'm just learning to find that line which will continue to move as my stomach shrinks. You get full with liquid but it's not the same 'full' feeling that you're used to with food so you have to re-learn when to stop. I've also started my heartburn medication again and once I get further down in weight or possibly once I'm done and able to take in less acidic items I will try to ween off once again. I don't see getting off of medications being a problem once I've cut the weight. As I was lowering my uptake I was noticing some shortness of breath. I've usually been pretty strong and pretty good cardio even given my weight and make-up so this was pretty noticeable to my immediately. Fast forward to this morning which was Saturday and when I get up to mow my lawn and my neighbor's lawn. I got winded half way through her lawn and didn't think I was going to finish both. The problem was when I got up I was afraid of getting heartburn so I just drank the smallest amount of water before I started. The heartburn wasn't there but I also didn't have any fuel for the fire which is what lead to the shortness of breath. The weird thing is I would sit for a minute and still not catch my breath like you do when you're doing cardio or playing sports. It just kept going. So I started adding in water and juice slowly and once I finished I'm now relaxing and taking in juice and water again. I'm slowly coming back to somewhat normal but it's pretty clear this is going to be a balancing game as my stomach shrinks and my needs vary.

So, for those that asked about exercising while doing a juice fast... I wouldn't recommend it. I mowed our lawn Wednesday morning (yeah, three days ago because I just feed it last week) and practically sprinted through it and didn't even notice anything. I'm guessing it was because I was taking in a lot more juice at the time and now it's a pretty big difference. So had I been exercising hard this whole time the balance act would have been even more difficult. I don't think you want to stress your body that much because it is a shock to the system from what it's used to.

Sorry for the long-winded update but for those interested I actually had something to report finally since all along it's been a lot easier than I had expected. This is more what I expected and it looks like it will require a little bit of effort to complete. But I'm already nearly at 14lbs lost and when I got off to such a good start I changed my goal from 1lb a day for the first week to 2lbs a day for the first week. Since I'm basically there I'm not hoping to see 20lbs by Monday morning. That's about 3lbs a day which is more than I had been losing recently but that's what goals are for, right? The nice thing about this diet is that I'm not going to strain myself to get to that goal. I'm just living life and letting the weight do what it does so it's pretty low stress.

Edit: Forgot to address those who were saying this is unhealthy and I should just change my diet...

Some people call it starving myself and I'm really not. The weird part is I come from a long line of addicts and yet I've never been addicted to anything... so I thought. I think I've determined that food and eating is my habit. I was talking about this topic from this angle with a close friend and she said that it was the hardest 'addiction' to overcome since you HAVE to eat. Alcohol & drugs your body doesn't need (save for a few hormonal things that can be corrected long-term) so you can quit. Now, I realize it's harder than that but the point is when you quit you can cut it out of your life and avoid even seeing it and the temptation. You can't do that with food. You must eat food to survive. Well.... this is my cold turkey. For those that ask why and say it's not healthy and yadda yadda... this is the healthiest way I can quit cold turkey. Once it no longer controls me the way it did I can do better at controlling what I take in. I now realize that my poor health had become my 'habit' and the desire to eat nothing but crap was obviously out of my control. So telling me to just control my diet and count carbs and blah blah blah is like seeing a heroin addict curled up on the street and walking up to them and telling them 'Hey, you should stop doing heroin' No shit. It's a little bit more difficult than that for me. If this is what I needed to break that addiction then so be it. I don't see myself being anywhere near as unhealthy as I had been moving forward so how can it be bad?

I had a huge in depth response typed out, and somehow this POS tapatalk erased it. I may still type it out later (headed to the gym now lol).

Part of the response was good on you Jer, for doing what YOU need to do, to become healthier. I know what works for me, but what works for me, may not work for others. Good luck man, and stay focused!

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Originally Posted by Jmetz

I've done it and had great results. I did juice only for the first 7 days and then incorporated salads, fruits, nuts and such along with my juice. Basically stating to a raw diet. It can be very difficult and you have to plan well as if you are out and about and need to eat there's no raw fast food joint. I will also point out that you will become sensitive to regular food and it will make you feel like shit if you eat it. You'll want to supplement with vitamins and such. You will feel much better, begin to regain energy, and your food (if you are eating raw) wont affect you like regular food does.

I got off of it and really need to get back to it.

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Thanks for the support. Fortunately my life has worked well this diet so for the most part I have been able to meet the needs. It's also pretty easy to find juice just about anywhere. I get what you're saying about regular food because I tried a trial run Thursday and Friday of last week and eating a small meal at dinner made me feel not so good. In fact, I considered not doing it based on that water testing (pun intended) and I'm glad I didn't. Once you get that crud out of your mind it's a smoother transition.

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Originally Posted by MrPrena

Let me know how the diet goes.
I gained too much weight after taking some hydrophilic medication plus arthritis.

Meanwhile, I will do the diet called "no money diet"
$1 side salad.

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I've been there but it seems that I eat worse when I'm broke. Only in America will you find overweight homeless & unemployed. There's a reason for that man.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski

Have you tried just counting calories vs exercising?

If you are going to do it anyway, why not just do it now? A lifestyle change is the only way this works, if you're going to do it little by little, why not just start there?

Anyway, yeah, we have a juicer. My wife never met a kitchen appliance she doesn't like.
I've invented some pretty cool juices, but I sure don't use it very often. It is a great way to turn a lot of fruit into a little fruit and a ton of servings into 1 serving, but they taste great and are healthier than store bought juices. IMHO, only.
Vitamix = better, you can do more with it like make soups, smoothies, dips, shakes, etc.

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Yeah, I've been there man. In a past life (15yrs ago) was pretty serious about being athletic and working out, sports and cardio was what consumed my time when I wasn't working or sleeping. I ate amazing and did everything you're supposed to do when you do that sort of thing and while I was stronger and had better cardio that my workout partners they were always leaner. I was always what I would consider 'fat' and I really think that my thyroid is out of whack and causing this. We actually have two dogs that have hypothyroidism and the symptoms they had were pretty similar to my symptoms. As of late I was just tired of failing at trying to change my eating habits and working out habits after so many years of failing. You eventually get to a point where you just can't muster the motivation to fail again. That's where I am only I wasn't willing to do just nothing about it. This is what I'm doing about it.

As for the Vitamix.. I've heard wonderful things about them from all the videos I've been watching and I'm going to start saving my allowance to hopefully get one at some point. Seems this is a vital item to have for those who plan to incorporate this as part of their lifestyle moving forward.