They are getting ready to take care of you!!!!

Wonder what that sign on I25 meant about national guard movements on the roadway= Operation ‘Vigilant Guard’ begins in Colorado http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...e-2719038.html DENVER – The Colorado National Guard will be conducting large-scale, multi-agency emergency exercises in Colorado Springs and the Denver metro area this week. The “Vigilant Guard” exercise started Monday morning in Colorado Springs. It focused on coordinating agencies to handle domestic emergencies and disasters.
The entire week’s exercise scenarios are based on a wildland fire burning into an urban area, and will also involve severe weather including tornadoes.
Participants will practice storm damage assessment, hazmat identification, abatement and decontamination, search and rescue, patient extraction, triage and other emergency-response measures, according to officials.
Monday’s exercises include a mock plane crash and a search and rescue mission hosted by the U.S. Air Force Academy Fire Department, officials said.
“Patients” will receive simulated medical treatment from emergency responders. Then they will be transported to a mock hospital at Fort Carson.
Army National Guard helicopters and Fort Carson firefighters will also conduct water drop training operations at Fort Carson. The training will emphasize air-ground communications.
National Guard units from Colorado, Arizona, Idaho, New Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming will be participating.
You may see uniformed military members and Guardsmen wearing chemical protective equipment during the training.

Got a couple people at work who are part of that this week. One works at NORAD/NorthCom and the other is flight ops at Buckley. They have been planning this for about 3 years now and finally had the coordination between states and feds to get it going .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

Pretty amusing how the article linked in the OP states in bold letters "Nuke and Terror" drills and "Helicopters Fly Over Interstate" but never mentions "nukes" or "terror" in the article. Is there supposed to be something sinister about this exercise that I'm missing?

And "Helicopters Fly Over Interstate"? How should a helicopter get past a highway if it doesn't fly over it?

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Pretty amusing how the article linked in the OP states in bold letters "Nuke and Terror" drills and "Helicopters Fly Over Interstate" but never mentions "nukes" or "terror" in the article. Is there supposed to be something sinister about this exercise that I'm missing?

And "Helicopters Fly Over Interstate"? How should a helicopter get past a highway if it doesn't fly over it?

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Which is why I don't bother reading stuff from beforeitsnews. Their scare mongering is more strident than A-Jones.

And then we have a legitimate disaster/other event and the "government" is immediately found to be at fault for not being prepared.

Look...I'm no fan of government intrusion at all. I think that's pretty clear. But I also don't think every time the .gov holds an exercise planned years in advance that it's some sort of preparation for war against the citizenry. For crying out loud...there were thousands of uniformed military members in and around the streets of Biloxi, MS (and along a large portion of the Gulf coast) conducting rescue and cleanup operations after hurricane Andrew in 1979. I was one of them. We were just helping out...not practicing for any planned military occupation.

Furthermore, when I see sensationalized "reporting" such as the headline from the OP's article it's a turnoff regardless of which side it comes from. Shitty journalism can have lots of flavors. You don't need to look any further than Alex Jones.

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i have been to 22 different countries. Most of those dont bat an eye when they see military with weapons. America is different. For the most part we havent had military units rolling through our towns conducting combat operations and or training.

The masters feel we need to get used to that. So, they keep increasing the frequency of the exercises. you cant drop a live frog into boiling water he would jump out. but you can put him in the pot and turn up the heat. If they cared about actually keeping us safe, they would close the borders, check every piece of cargo coming in to the US, throw out people overstaying Visas, and stop accepting people from countries known to be a threat to us.

But, if I am the only one who believes that, then just ignore my comment.

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Aside from the quantity of countries I've been in, I'm right there with you HBAR.

I will say I trust the national guard much more than the NSA, if this were the nsa I would be worried. The national guard along with most military groups has sworn to uphold our constitution, not so much with the nsa f*ks

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i have been to 22 different countries. Most of those dont bat an eye when they see military with weapons. America is different. For the most part we havent had military units rolling through our towns conducting combat operations and or training.

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We've also never anticipated having to fight an invading army on our soil. Not so much for many European countries.

I always hide under my lead blanket when I hear the helicopters.

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i have been to 22 different countries. Most of those dont bat an eye when they see military with weapons. America is different. For the most part we havent had military units rolling through our towns conducting combat operations and or training.

The masters feel we need to get used to that. So, they keep increasing the frequency of the exercises. you cant drop a live frog into boiling water he would jump out. but you can put him in the pot and t
urn up the heat. If they cared about actually keeping us safe, they would close the borders, check every piece of cargo coming in to the US, throw out people overstaying Visas, and stop accepting people from countries known to be a threat to us.

But, if I am the only one who believes that, then just ignore my comment.

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Mostly my same thoughts. I understand these drills include responses to domestic terrorism. Who are domestic terrorists?

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And then we have a legitimate disaster/other event and the "government" is immediately found to be at fault for not being prepared.

Look...I'm no fan of government intrusion at all. I think that's pretty clear. But I also don't think every time the .gov holds an exercise planned years in advance that it's some sort of preparation for war against the citizenry. For crying out loud...there were thousands of uniformed military members in and around the streets of Biloxi, MS (and along a large portion of the Gulf coast) conducting rescue and cleanup operations after hurricane Andrew in 1979. I was one of them. We were just helping out...not practicing for any planned military occupation.

Furthermore, when I see sensationalized "reporting" such as the headline from the OP's article it's a turnoff regardless of which side it comes from. Shitty journalism can have lots of flavors. You don't need to look any further than Alex Jones.

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I do have a tinfoil hat, but the population, "We" always bitch after a natural disaster or large scale accident when the .gov doesn't respond well. The reaction times and coordination are better with training. How many Guardsmen do you know? I know a few, and none of them have any interest in a coup.

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Which is why I don't bother reading stuff from beforeitsnews. Their scare mongering is more strident than A-Jones.

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Yes scare mongering, but dont you find it a bit concerning that as you drive down I25 and you see a electronic signs informing you that military vehicles will be on the highway for a large exercise. Sad that I cant find any other news article explaining the signs for over a day . Many moons ago I drove a Hummer along with other soldiers up and down this same highway for trainings and no signs were posted. I see military vehicles on the high way all the time and never saw signs before posted.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...uard+excercise

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Yes scare mongering, but dont you find it a bit concerning that as you drive down I25 and you see a electronic signs informing you that military vehicles will be on the highway for a large exercise.

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Ummm....no.

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Sad that I cant find any other news article explaining the signs for over a day . Many moons ago I drove a Hummer along with other soldiers up and down this same highway for trainings and no signs were posted. I see military vehicles on the high way all the time and never saw signs before posted.

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Many moons ago there weren't signs on cigarette packages warning you of the effects of smoking. But, whatever. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over this. You can if you like.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=346517

There was even a video segment on 9News in the last few days. But...they didn't explain or even mention the ominous signs.

I also recall a military exercise here in Park Co some time ago and there were signs on 285 in South Park re: the exercise. Also, we did a SWAT drill in Greenwood Village (late 90s) and basically took over an entire medium-rise building. Part of the exercise included signage on the major roads (though I don't know if there were any on I-25) in the areas warning of a concentrated police presence and emergency vehicles in the area.

Make of that what you will. I don't think it's unusual at all.

Cool... good for them, they need more training. I have a buddy from AIT who works at COANG HQ in Denver, his wife just had a baby so he's on vacation for all this, but he was part of the S2 planning for this operation earlier this year and said the general consensus among the troops and brass alike is that this is some good training. It's mostly addressing some of the short comings in dealing with a disaster that were discovered after Katrina. A lot of the LA NG had never done anything like that before nor had they really trained for something that large scale. CO needs to be prepared for a large scale disaster like the Waldo Canyon and Black Forest fires- two of the worst fires on record- in case they go from bad to worse and we do need to declare a state of emergency. I'm with Bailey on this, I don't trust our government as far as I can throw them (and they've gotten quite big and fat over the years), but I see nothing nefarious about this, it's helping to establish better communication and coordination abilities for the various agencies and organizations that would go into action if something bad ever did happen. It seems in this day in age the biggest threat we face here in this state would be a large scale wildfire, and the NG is one of our best assets to help fight that. My dad saw that first hand when he was an IC on the Hayman fire years back, coordinating COANG CH-47's and UH-60's with bambi buckets and combining their logistics guys with the incident management team/commanders- let's just say it wasn't an easy task and they didn't have a whole lot of training for that scenario, but they made it work.

Slow moving traffic on I-25 during the week? What's New?

The first thing to do is PANIC!!

The second is to get everyone else to PANIC!!

Third, get your feed bag, red bull, AR and chest rig and camp out in your front yard.


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If the .gov were going to try something they would secure their own AO first. They will secure the area around Washington DC and their havens (Martha's Vineyard and places like that), and when they move you'll know it in about 30 seconds if you're on the webz.

Think like an elitist before you get your panties in a bunch, elitists are selfish if nothing else and they'll want to secure their own work and play areas first.

Im not too concerned avout what they are training for but WHO they are traing against.. In other words who are the terrorists in this scenario?

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Im not too concerned avout what they are training for but WHO they are traing against.. In other words who are the terrorists in this scenario?

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Violent Tea Party type conservative groups... ya know, the kind that applied for tax exempt status last year. [Coffee]

Im not too worried about it. Mostly because Im not around. But having participated in drills like this before when I was AD, its good training. Escpecially when you think about all the shit that could go wrong in our state. With the exception of hurricanes we pretty much have every possible disaster waiting to happen. Training is good. It isn't something that can happen all the time. So whenever you can have it. its a good thing.

I've been hearing an awful lot of jets flying in and out of Buckley this morning. Probably heard 10-12 (sorry, haven't been counting) which is much higher than normal, by far.

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I've been hearing an awful lot of jets flying in and out of Buckley this morning. Probably heard 10-12 (sorry, haven't been counting) which is much higher than normal, by far.

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Not trying to be a dick, but are you sure they weren't just doing touch and goes?

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Im not too concerned avout what they are training for but WHO they are traing against.. In other words who are the terrorists in this scenario?

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Everyday Joe Blow US Citizen who gets too uppity/does not agree with the current regime in power

NSA Spying, IRS Targeting symptoms, of the same thing. You start with the bureaucracy, then move to the people with the guns.

But dont worry it can never ever happen in the US, because um ya know we are special or some shit like that. uh-huh

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Not trying to be a dick, but are you sure they weren't just doing touch and goes?

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It's a very real possibility. I couldn't say one way or the other. I work just north of the base, so I hear the jets when they're taking off and when they're circling around to land. Can't see them from my office unfortunately.

Maybe growing up rural has built in some immunity. We had at least one NG convoy through town, and camped at the fairgrounds every summer I can remember as a kid.
Isn't it part of the military's duty to maintain a certain modicum of preparedness?

My 2¢.

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A lot of you guys sure spend a lot of time on the internet to be so paranoid of everything "the government" does.

For me? "The government" does plenty of REALLY SERIOUS crap that I'm worried about to keep me from worrying about signs announcing increased military vehicle traffic during a large disaster preparedness exercise.

But, hey... If you guys feel the need to be that concerned about it who am I to say you shouldn't be? Maybe I should tune in to AJ a little more often. Harden me up a little bit.

Now I would start fear mongering, if instead of their standard BDUs they switched to wearing the Blue Camo/Helmet combo

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Now I would start fear mongering, if instead of their standard BDUs they switched to wearing the Blue Camo/Helmet combo

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Oh, great! You had to mention blue helmets, didn't ya?

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Now I would start fear mongering, if instead of their standard BDUs they switched to wearing the Blue Camo/Helmet combo

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Swell, the damn UN.

The UN will be too busy raping boys and murdering girls to bother with a bunch of conservatives.

its dudley, the drones are watching dudley chemtrail you.

In this scenario, a giant asteroid crashes into the Atlantic ocean drowning millions of Amerikans! The Nasty Guard has to deal with all the refuse (refugees) from Boston, DC and NYC...other words they are servicing FEMA camps DIA, COS & PUB. There were no survivors from Florida...lol

Training in the environment you may some day be called to deploy/employ in is benefitial because it makes you familiar with area, limiting factors, gotchas. Lessons learned through exercises makes the real deal go down much smoother. Re: 777 accident at SFO. The EMS units and airfield mgmt folks had just done an exercise for that very incident weeks before it happened.