http://youtu.be/DW0VxxoCrNo
Children who never learn how to fail, will fail when they are adults.
:(
Printable View
http://youtu.be/DW0VxxoCrNo
Children who never learn how to fail, will fail when they are adults.
:(
Reminds me of a story Bert told me [I'll leave it to him to tell, if he wishes]. Very worrying indeed.
As long as there's an explanation for why 3x4=11...
"Someone shot the other "1" in gang/drug violence and we just don't talk about that."
My oldest was in grade school doing some math homework (kinda pre algebra stuff, X+Y = Z and such)and I saw some previous papers that had been graded, I noticed although he had a rough idea what was going on his answers were wrong, but had not been marked as such. I asked the kiddo about it and he said the teacher said they were correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by KestrelBike
I stashed the paper until the next parent teacher conference.
When that time came I pulled out the papers and asked the teacher why the incorrect answers had received credit for being correct.
"Well I am not worried about the CORRECT answers, rather I want them to work on the concept"
I just about blew a gasket! I laid into here in a polite manner and asked here how on earth the kids could ever be expected to learn the "concept" if they are not getting the answers correct? I then told here we did not go to the moon on a "concept".
I also told her to teach my kid correctly or don't bother teaching at all.
Freakin appalling.
Imagine if we built cars close enough to concept or airplanes etc...yeah that engine is supposed to have 30 fan blades but 29 is close enough.
When it comes to math you are either right or wrong. There are different methods of getting there but you all end up at the same place.
Very well said Sniper7.
"Commie Core" will be the final nail in our public education system.
The video shown should be all the motivation one needs to do whatever they have to do to ensure their kids receive either homeschooling or private education.
I know lots of you guys are not Glenn Beck fans, but he has spoken on the failure of "Common Core" and its dangers to society for a few years now.
Again, he is uncannily accurate.
We are in serious trouble folks........
Look at this way guys, in 10 years if you buy 3 boxes of 22lr for $4 each it will only cost you $11. Imagine the savings passed onto the consumer!
^^^ Win!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Was the final step for us. Home school started Thursday. The curriculum we went with still has some CC elements to it, but now we can control the exposure level.
As a teacher, I get the ability to change my curriculum every year as trends and industry dictate. Since I give high school english credit I still have to go by some of these "rules" but in CTE there is so much latitude to teach what we want and how we want, to make sure the students understand the basics as well as what industry requires of them.
What she is talking about, I have never heard of this. I had to send it off to some smarter people to tell me if this is true or if she was just talking out her ass. If it is ture, thaen god heple us.
It's all part of the "Common Core" curriculum. Expect to see much more of this sort of teaching concept.
This is one of the main reasons we are leaving the state next year. We're moving back to Alaska, where the kids will be put in private school. Alaska was one of maybe three or four states that would not accept Common Core. Unfortunately the Governor signed the identical curriculum with common core crossed out. Bill Ayers and his pinko's have been in the back door of these few states slipping their garbage in. I wish I had the patients to home school.
"Common Core" is one of the main reasons Kat is doing the on-line public school with both kids this year.
Early last year our daughter was really struggling with a math assignment and I couldn't figure out why since she was already very good at the basics. We sat down to go over some subtraction and this is the type of problem we were presented with (this is from Everyday Math aka Chicago Math). http://www.nychold.com/em-arith.html
Attachment 32841
I've always been very good at math but I had to look up multiple examples online to figure out what the hell they were doing. :)
As a teacher... I have some horror stories I could pass on. But half of you wouldn't believe they are true. Half of this crap is thought up by administration who never spent time in a classroom, nor understand how a child grows both in concrete and abstract reasoning. The new core curriculum (is just a new name for old crap they've been trying to pass for years) is killing the education system quicker than anything and making the truly good teachers want to leave with the added "pay per performance" and all the other crap. As in everything, there are some good ideas, but very, VERY bad implementation...
Anyways, what do I know, I'm just a silly musician...
What is said in the video doesn't make sense because there is no way to explain how you arrived at 3x4=11, because 3x4 does not equal 11.
what the hell is that crap ^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
burn it, BURN IT!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmailliard
Let us hope you typed this last sentence sarcasticly............[hahhah-no]
What.The.Fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
Make it as confusing and convoluted as possible and they'll never learn self-reliance.
This comes from the same people that taught all your (Insert retail store here) how to give you back your change. I was somewhere the other day and the bill came to $3:20. I handed her a 10 and said I think I have the 20 cents. I had a quarter and handed it to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by KestrelBike
It came back as (handing me the nickle) that is 3 and two makes five and five is ten handing the rest of the bills in order to me. I about fell out until I took a good look and realized that the gal behind the counter had a good bit of years over me. I thanked her for counting out the change and said it is a dying art. She just smiled.[Flower]
I told my sons new teacher at open house to her face that I did not want to hear about this Common Core BS from my son. None of this wrong answers are right if he can explain why he got it wrong. I told her no Global Warming, Alternative Learning, pushing agendas, anything related to Politics or Gov. programs and sex education.........he is in the 4th grade!!!
I told her I would be a thorn in her side when I hear him saying things that don't sound right.
I also mentioned that I ask him "So, what did you learn today in school" as soon as I pick him up from daycare.
I have battled with this math crap as well, a simple problem to solve has been made to have as many steps and stupid new terms to solve 1+1.
Im known for writing notes on his homework for teachers to read and explain to me what they are teaching. Nothing drives them more crazy then having to write or email me taking more of their time.
In my best as I remember grade school manner I fixed it. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse2621d96.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
WTF squared?
is that the inverse of Reverse Polish Notation????
I think I will roll with Jerry's version......
Music IS mathematics, and the wrong answer is still wrong, no matter how one arrives at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBear
If you can explain why you played A minor instead of A major, then the song sounds fine.
NPR played some thing about an orchestra once and the conducter had them play some song for 60 seconds or so. He then had them play it again where only 90% of the notes were correct and the song was near unrecognizable.
Ok, since you asked (no you didn't)... Agenda 21. Learn about it. Now. it is what's behind the CC stuff, and a ton of other stuff, including.... <wait for it> planned urban communities! Yep. Denver area is one of their poster children, don't recall the community's name, but it's one of their 'successes'!
This type of thinking is only acceptable if you're living in 1984... (yes, I mean the book, not the time period)
The goal is to teach 'thinking' (or at least, what they call thinking), and understanding that the only right answer is what they're told (because they've been dumbed down enough so they can't arrive at the correct answer themselves!). It's part of the reason that we've been seeing, for the past 20+ years, a huge emphasis on "the professionals": only the 'professionals' are qualified to do <fill in the blank>... And a bunch of other nonsense that will make your blood boil.
Seriously, I've said it a zillion times here: Agenda 21, look it up, learn about it, get some of the books (yes, it's actually published by the UN) and see what's going on around you and around your kids & neighbors' kids...
Here's a great video explanation of Agenda 21. And there are many more, and many books you can find on the topic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCU5sfmU8kU
Something tells me the South Koreans don't use this style of teaching.
This is how Chicago makes money from NW/Cornflakes, UofChi.Quote:
Originally Posted by muddywings
Since their own kids in Chicago are so stupid that out of state students are getting into these schools listed above.
I think South Korean education system teaches normal way. (like how we learned how to do basic asthmatics)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim B
I think ROK's k-12 is ranked top 3 in the world.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2199795.html
However, their teachings are very generic/fixed. K-12 materials are ONLY about semester to 3/4 quarters ahead of average US schools, but the kids (or shall I say their parents) are extremely competitive relative to kids' class/school ranking.
CRAP below is more:
-Complicated than a fukN Complex Variables.
-Abstract than a damn Abstract Algebra.
-Differentiated than a crazy Partial Differential Equations.
:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by th3w01f
Because I couldn't just let it go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beprepared
If you chose to home school, please do endeavor to teach them how to spell and use the proper word, and spell it properly as well. [Bang]
A while back Mike Rosen had a teacher on that was part of an organization that advocated less or no homework for students. Rosen brought up weekly spelling tests and asked how a student was to learn how to spell correctly. The teacher replied that if there was a question on how a word should be spelled she let the students discuss and decide how they wanted to spell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
Words have no meanings any more so why should they have a correct spelling?
Just got this email from one of the grandson's teachers - gives me a headache trying to figure out WTF he's talking about. Glad the kid's a junior this year.
Hello everyone -
I wanted to say hello and clear up what an M would mean in the gradebook for Algebra 2. Students have the chance to make their homework better if needed (so an extra night). You should see scores of 10, 9, 8 or 7 for scores. If a 10 is earned, then the student did all homework with no more than 3 errors. If there is an M for now, then the following class time day should have a better score. A grade of 9 would mean a student missed 4 or more problems and are doing corrections on a separate sheet of paper. If a score of 8 is earned, then the student tried 1/2 to 3/4 of homework took it home to complete/correct. If a 7 is earned, then less than 1/2 was tried and it was taken home to complete/correct. If an M stays in the gradebook, then a student did not submit.
If you happen to see the grade of 0, 4, or 5 are earned, then your child is not completing the work. If the above scores are earned, then by completing the 0 would have earned a 7, the 4 would have earned an 8, and the 5 would have earned a 9 if the student had taken home and completed. If you see an M, please realize your child is doing completion and should earn a grade of 7, 8 or 9.
I think he saying that the first rule of Algebra 2, is that you don't talk about Algebra 2.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
That's exactly how I learned it....and it's quite efficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
Thank you for the correction. This is one reason why I stated I "do not have the patience" to home school my children. I am the first to admit that my spelling and grammer sucks (yes I had weekly spelling tests). I will no longer trust my typing and proofing skills after having a restless night. The post will be edited promptly.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutal
That is how I learned it too and it still works best today. I don't understand why it has to be so complex. Carry over is much easier...for me anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrymrc
Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
Today's lesson in stupidity is brought to you by the same dickwads that won't spank a child for behaving badly and EVERYBODY gets a trophy!
I find the above e mail virtually incomprehensible.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by sellersm
A21 is some scary stuff.