Yote Problem

I have a co-worker who lives out by Calhan, CO and lost a dog to yotes about 6 months ago and almost lost a second but she was able to sppok 'em into dropping the second dog.

Well, that was 6 months ago. A week ago she lost the second dog to a pack of 9 yotes. They were working on getting into her 6'x4" picket fence when the dog stuck it's head through a gap the yotes created. They grabbed the dog by the head and pulled it out, running off with it. (A neighbor watched the whole thing.)

I've been trying to convince her to let me come and help her resolve the problem but (until now) she has been resistant - saying she "likes" coyotes. She no longer has a problem with this and will soon allow me to come to her property to shoot some yotes. I MAY be able to bring others with me (still working on that).

This same woman informed me that an 8yo boy was attacked out there just a week ago by a pack of yotes and 2 weeks before that a woman was attacked. The problem is getting bad so I expect that more of these rural home/land owners will be looking for a solution.

WE can be that solution.

Tell her to get a real dog and not rat dog problem solved. I have hunted out in Yoder and Clahan for many years I usually take my dog.

I can't count how many times yotes come around especially at 4am and my dog heads right for them and nothing has ever happened.

At the same time if she would like me to shoot some yotes not a problem. I have permission for a lot of property out that way.

As far as yotes attacking people I have no choice but to call BS!!

There was a lady out walking her dog in the Patty Jewit* here in the Springs last month or so when a yote came out and attacked her dog. Probably a small dog but non the less.

I work with a guy that lives in the Peaceful Valley area. Has a few big dogs (Rotties) and he was telling me they (yotes) try to entice his dogs when they're by themselves....Usually a female yote in heat trying to bring back one of his male to the pack.

I've also been Mtn Biking at Palmer Park (1 mile from my house), come around a corner and ran into one right in the middle of the trail. It wasn't worried about me at all.......they are getting brave!

I'd be willing to help out....just gotta get my card first though! (Slacker, I know...)

-J

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Originally Posted by jtwo

There was a lady out walking her dog in the Patty Jewit* here in the Springs last month or so when a yote came out and attacked her dog. Probably a small dog but non the less.

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Yep that is what they do it's called mother nature they need to eat. If you give them a free meal they will take it.

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Originally Posted by jtwo

I work with a guy that lives in the Peaceful Valley area. Has a few big dogs (Rotties) and he was telling me they (yotes) try to entice his dogs when they're by themselves....Usually a female yote in heat trying to bring back one of his male to the pack.

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Internet myth I have heard so many versions of this myth I don't even know were to start.

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Originally Posted by jtwo

I've also been Mtn Biking at Palmer Park (1 mile from my house), come around a corner and ran into one right in the middle of the trail. It wasn't worried about me at all.......they are getting brave!

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They are not getting "Brave" they are adapting. When you have hundreds of sprocket heads riding up and down the same trail all day they figure out you are not a threat and lose all fear. This does not mean they are getting aggresive.

That being said I am always up for a yote hunt but I will not come up with BS excuses to hunt them. They are a real challenge to hunt they are not stupid. I hunt them because it is a great challenge and I like to hunt.

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Originally Posted by HunterCO

Tell her to get a real dog and not rat dog problem solved.

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Rat dogs huh?
My neighbor has lost 3 bull mastiffs.

They are packing up and hunting like wolves. When a dog is getting attacked my up to a dozen coyotes, they don't have a chance.
This has been going on in the Peyton/Falcon area for over 20 years. They have learned to hunt in packs.

The real "rat" dogs are just as likely to get taken by a hawk or golden eagle as well.

theGinsue,
I am a member on another board that specializes in coyote/predator hunting. There are 4 call makers in the Peyton/Calhan area.... They are in coyote mecca.
There are also about 50 board memebers in the area that could wipe the problems coyotes out if landowners would just give permission to keep the populations in check. These are people who are addicted to hunting coyotes.

Personally I hunt along the El Paso County lines along Lincoln County and Pueblo County. Those land owners are glad I show up. Now that calves are dropping coyote hunting services get requested a lot.

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Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey

Rat dogs huh?
My neighbor has lost 3 bull mastiffs.

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Don't doubt it but if you expect me to believe it was yotes I have an island in the middle of the dessert to sell you.

I have lived and hunted this state my whole life you can't BS me just a hint!!!!!!

A vet down in Centennial said the only dog she found that survived a coyote attack had an invisible fence collar. When the coyote carried the dog past the boundary the collar shocked the coyote and he dropped the dog.

Funny how many people I know that live out in the country and have their whole lives not one of them have or can tell a fairy tale about yotes eating there large dog. Much less attacking people.

Mr. Reed just celebrated his 100th birthday out in Yoder and he has never heard of such a thing...... He still lives in his house his wife is 96 or 97 I forget but amazing how they survived all these years with these man eating yotes.

Things that make you go hmmmmm......

I haven't heard of coyotes attacking people, but they do attack dogs while the owners are right there.

I had it happen two summers ago about 10:00PM while I was standing in my front yard next to my Cocker Spaniel.

Three weeks ago a neighbor was walking her dog on a leash on the Air Force Academy and two coyotes jumped out and grabbed the dog. She beat them off with her walking stick.

The coyotes are getting too used to people and are not afraid.

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Yep that is what they do it's called mother nature they need to eat. If you give them a free meal they will take it.

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Never said it wasn't "Mother Nature" taking its course, predators are usually opportunists

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Internet myth I have heard so many versions of this myth I don't even know were to start.

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Yeah, I'm just repeating what my coworker told me. Probably a bad habit as it creates rumors & gets mixed up.

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They are not getting "Brave" they are adapting. When you have hundreds of sprocket heads riding up and down the same trail all day they figure out you are not a threat and lose all fear. This does not mean they are getting aggresive.

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Probably not brave, you're right but they have become comfortable and lost fear of humans in Urban areas...ie Palmer Park in the middle of Co Spgs. Now, I'm not scared of them so I don't worry about it but I know for a fact that they have attacked humans. Maybe not an adult but small children, probably not often but I wouldn't go so far as to call that BS.

I don't see how a person that lost 2 dogs is a BS reason to hunt the clever coyote......errr I mean man eater.

Cheers! [Beer]

My mom just told me about a news article she read where a lady was attacked by Coyotes. If domesticated dogs attack people (all the time) then why would it be so difficult to believe that a coyote would?

I came here to CO from WY and I have heard of yotes attacking small children there and have seen it on the news that they have attacked here as well. With millions of yotes in the world and even more people one can't rule out that there aren't attacks on people out there somewhere. Opportunist they are are and it can and does happen. Sorry that some don't beleive it.

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Originally Posted by 10x

.....She beat them off with her walking stick....

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This just begs for a nasty remark.

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Originally Posted by jtwo

Never said it wasn't "Mother Nature" taking its course, predators are usually opportunists

Probably not brave, you're right but they have become comfortable and lost fear of humans in Urban areas...

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These exact items are discussed in a book called The Politically Incorrect Guide to Hunting. It happens!

Ahhh- the good ole yote problem- thats what happens when they get sanctuary! You dont see or hear of any yote problems around here- they have had the piss pounded out of them for a while now. The ones that survive, know humans = BAD JUJU- STAY AWAY!!!
If they hang around us and nothing happens- they lose the fear- if everytime one shows his mug he gets capped or at least has bullets flying his way- they get real cagey real fast and tend to stay away.

Have calls will travel! Gimme an addy- permission and a couple a days and Ill stack em up for you. ;)
(BTW- yes- they do attack people on occasion- yes they can and do take down big dogs(50-70lbs) sometimes if the oppurtunity presents itself

Maybe these mountain dogs are different than out there on the plains??? You will never get totaly rid of them- but you can sure thin them out and make them stay away.

Drop me a line if you need any help - heck, going to the range in about an hour to fine tune some "dog medicine" in my 6x45 for this weekends yote hunting excursion.

Fox21 (Colo Spr) just has a story about a woman and her dog somewhere around Denver getting attacked by yotes. It does happen. Not enough hunting pressure to keep their fear of humans.

Posted today in Denver-


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/coyotes_in_the__hood

The coyote problem is not the myth everyone says it is.

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"Ninety-five percent of this problem is a human problem, and we really need to focus on that 95 percent to solve it," said Nicole Rosmarino, wildlife program director of the environmental group WildEarth Guardians.

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Hmmm... Let me guess what her solution to the 95 per cent problem is...

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She has organized volunteers in Greenwood Village and other cities to walk through parks to shoo coyotes and make them more wary of people.

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[ROFL2]
That'll scare the piss out of them for sure...

Well, atleast they have not tried birth control. I think a nice dose of .223 would help.

Oh yeah, the birth control for wild animals thing. I'm amazed that environmentalist still think that's a viable option after so many studies have shown it isn't.

I agree, .223 is the best birth control for yotes.

My friend out in Logan county is inviting me to do all the coyote and pdog hunting we want. Multiple land owners are tired of the huge numbers this spring.

I can use one or two company as I am new at this.

I am up for it!!! Me and "bowhunter" and another buddy put the smack down on them every chance we get. As a matter of fact we put a few down this morning [M2]. Well until "bowhunter" decided to try and sell his coyote rifle here on the forum, he cant sit still that long.

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Originally Posted by trlcavscout

I am up for it!!! Me and "bowhunter" and another buddy put the smack down on them every chance we get. As a matter of fact we put a few down this morning [M2]. Well until "bowhunter" decided to try and sell his coyote rifle here on the forum, he cant sit still that long.

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Your just mad because I out shoot you with my Remmy [ROFL1] and I wont sell it to you!

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Originally Posted by bowhunter

Your just mad because I out shoot you with my Remmy [ROFL1] and I wont sell it to you!

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I'm trying to find a new 243 yote smoker then we'll see[Sniper]

Keep me in mind for Yote Control as well. Sadly, work is gonna smack me this weekend. I am up for 4/18 though if that works.

Getting a new knee here in May so I would like to sneak in a hunt b4 then.

I called them back.. and they are arranging it w/ a few farmers that have yote problems.

I dont know what you need for proof that coyotes have been attacking people, but I have heard of several incidents around where I live.

This happened in the fall/winter just last year. A man was out walking his dog, dog saw coyote and chased it. Man chased after his dog and was bit by a different coyote. I cant find the article but ill keep looking. This stuff isnt BS. It happens.
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9 yr. old boy gets attacked.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...75/detail.html

From what I hear, wild dogs area a problem in Ellicot as well. School children are getting chased to and from bus stops and such.

The Ellicot council had a meeting a few weeks ago, and gave land owners persmission to shoot any dog that is stalking or harrassing children or livestock.

These are just plain wild dogs, not coyotes, and are almost attacking kids.

I'm game for shooting any yote I find.