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The backstory: So this happened in Oregon back in August. Apparently the suspect was shot once center of mass by the police officer, but was still in the fight. The suspect died 1/2 mile down the road. The officer made it alive with only a gunshot wound to his side. How would you guys have handled this situation?
Link to video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=92b_1380838953
Enemy combatant... I would have called in a drone strike to light him up.
I'd have shot him with something bigger.
http://i.imgur.com/oteAlaC.jpg?1Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
You never know, till you know. Hits count more than misses. Center of mass counts more than peripheral hits.
I'm glad the Trooper is well and the kids in the deceased's car were not injured. Shit happens faster than most of us can think. The dead guy was the only one who knew what he wanted to do in that situation.
I'd rather be lucky than good, but I still train anyway.
Be safe.
Hopefully the same way the officer did. Successfully. Without seeing what the officer was doing it's hard to say I'd have done anything differently. Good guy survives gunfight, bad guy doesn't survive gunfight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirSai
I can't believe the guy moved like that after being shot in the chest.
Adrenaline can do amazing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by RMAC757
Last I checked, Oregon State Police issued Glock 22, so I imagine that was one .40 S&W JHP to the chest. He was probably dead the minute it went through his chest, but it takes the mind of a committed individual a few minutes of convincing by the rest of their body. There are lots of historical examples of dead men going on to commit their crimes even after being fatally wounded.
Be safe.
Couldn't see what the officer was doing, but as an officer I think I would have already drawn. That guy's body language was about as suspect as it gets.
He also did some type of reload or lost his mag. Scary stuff
Agreed. Not obeying directions and intentionally keeping his hands behind his back. Staring directly at the Trooper, closing his door, inching forward...at some point you just go from drawn to aimed. It just happens so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
It looked like he lost his magazine. Either an aborted mag change or just slipped on the mag release. After firing one more round while advancing down the passenger side of the Trooper's vehicle, he goes back and picks up the mag he dropped and reinserts it into the pistol before retreating to his vehicle and driving off. He probably didn't know he had been hit until he put the car in gear and pulled away.
No information on the page to indicate what was the deceased motivation. People do strange things.
Did anyone see the man who set himself on fire on the National Mall today. Apparently this afternoon, some man poured gasoline on his self and lit the fire. Park Police medivaced him, but no word on his condition.
I'm not a trained LEO and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but his body language and his hand behind his back would have me drawing down on him shortly after he exited the vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Not a cop but that looked pretty textbook to me. He got what he deserved. The only thing that could have gone better is if the cop had not been hit.
Fortunately, that was a once in a career event for a small percentage of police officers. Even when a traffic stop goes bad, it usually doesn't end up in a shooting situation. This video almost looked like a "shoot" "don't shoot" video out of a FATS machine. The deceased motorist could have just as easily come out with a cell phone in his hand when he was moving forward. If that had been the case, the only thing that would have saved the Trooper's career would have been the dash camera, which clearly shows the Trooper providing good verbal commands and the aggressive posture of the deceased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hound
All traffic stops are routine, until they aren't.
Be safe.
That was one of my first thoughts. What a weird situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstone
I thought I saw at least one round from the officer hit the ground. One I suspect was the 2nd+ shot because as you all have mentioned above, I'm sure that officer had the sights dead on the BG before he advanced. I bet the first round from the officer was the money shot. But that's all guessing of course...
I think that officer showed quite a bit of restraint, I expected him to justifiably start shooting about three or four steps earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I know. That is a horrific video to watch. I'm glad this trooper came out on top and the buy guy is pushin' daisies. Chalk up a "W" for the good guys! [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
You guys are such right wing wackos....just think about the poor children, oh the horror...These 2 poor children in the car had to witness their dad being killed by an evil 5-O....
jk
.40S&W? Pffft
I woulda shot him with 9mm and been done with the paperwork by the end of my shift.