2 kids steal guns out of a car at Blucor. Arrested. Ages 11 and 13

LAKEWOOD - Two boys, ages 13 and 11, were arrested by Lakewood Police Tuesday morning. Officers say the boys stole two guns and a knife from a vehicle parked outside a shooting range.
The incident happened outside BluCore Shooting Center on Jewell Avenue in Lakewood last Thursday.
The man who owned the guns was inside BlueCore, practicing. He left a revolver and a pistol in his truck and took other guns inside. The man, who we're not naming due to privacy reasons, said he forgot to lock his truck.
"I just forgot to hit the button. [I] had my hands full. That sort of thing," the man told 9NEWS.
Security footage shows the boys going from vehicle to vehicle.
"I'm certainly disappointed that these two were looking to commit any kind of crime. It's disturbing, certainly. It's disturbing that they were able to accomplish it," Lakewood Police Sgt. Randy McNitt said.
The guns and knife are worth $1,200. When police located and arrested the boys Tuesday morning, they found the weapons inside one of the boy's homes.
"When we recovered them, one gun was unloaded; the other gun did not have magazines in it. The magazines were recovered. They weren't loaded. But neither gun was immediately able to be fired," Sgt. McNitt said.
The arrests wouldn't have been possible, had the security cameras at BluCore not captured the boys' images so clearly.
Since the shooting range opened in 2011, its owner says he's never had to deal with anything like this.
Albeit criminal for the boys to steal, he also says gun owners need to be more aware.
"We all believe in the Second Amendment and the right it guarantees us, but also the responsibility that comes along with it," BlueCore co-owner Eric Frohardt said.
The two boys received a few felony charges, including juvenile possession of a handgun. They're currently being held at a juvenile detention center, awaiting their fate.
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now lets see if the courts actually punish these fucking delinquents.

I can hear the parents now, But they are good kids.

Damn I park my ride there all the time. I've never left my car unlocked by I'd still be furious if some little shit was pawing at it.

You know it takes an entire new level so stupid to rob cars at a place where most, if not all, of the patrons are armed.

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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03

You know it takes an entire new level so stupid to rob cars at a place where most, if not all, of the patrons are armed.

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I want to see the parents. It's obvious the kids are genetically disadvantaged.

Another fantastic example of DON'T LEAVE A GODDAMN THING IN YOUR VEHICLE EVER FOR ANY REASON. Literally every person that I know that has ever had a gun stolen had it taken from their car or truck. Most times it was locked, or even in a lock box but that does not stop a thief with a crowbar and five minutes.

^ Agreed. It's just not worth the risk.

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Originally Posted by Danimal

Another fantastic example of DON'T LEAVE A GODDAMN THING IN YOUR VEHICLE EVER FOR ANY REASON. Literally every person that I know that has ever had a gun stolen had it taken from their car or truck. Most times it was locked, or even in a lock box but that does not stop a thief with a crowbar and five minutes.

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^^^ this
After knowing folks that would break a window to grab a pack of smokes off the dash, anything is a target.

and WTF is this?

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"When we recovered them, one gun was unloaded; the other gun did not have magazines in it. The magazines were recovered. They weren't loaded. But neither gun was immediately able to be fired," Sgt. McNitt said.

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So neither gun was loaded, the mags were not loaded. The knife was the most dangerous thing they took as it was. Just say that. What question was asked to fluster him like that.

Or its the new generation that doesn't give a fuck. They probably felt they "deserved" them

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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03

You know it takes an entire new level so stupid to rob cars at a place where most, if not all, of the patrons are armed.

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Or its the new generation that doesn't give a fuck. They probably felt they "deserved" them

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They probably thought (rightly) that people wouldn't shoot them when they ran away.

As we were leaving BluCor Monday evening a Lakewood PD officer was patrolling the parking lot. He pulled up as we were putting away our gear and told us of the robbery and cautioned not to leave "valuables" in the car anywhere. Said theft from cars has been on the rise in general.

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Originally Posted by buffalobo

As we were leaving BluCor Monday evening a Lakewood PD officer was patrolling the parking lot. He pulled up as we were putting away our gear and told us of the robbery and cautioned not to leave "valuables" in the car anywhere. Said theft from cars has been on the rise in general.

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FYI Lakewood PD is referred to as "Agents" not officers. I've run across some that are pretty defensive about not being addressed properly.

The story here isn't that two little miscreants exist, it's the stupidity of the "victim".

-Leave two guns and knife in unattended car (rocket science attempt #1)
-Don't lock car (rocket science attempt #2)

Sorry, not feeling a whole lot of shock/awe on this one.

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Originally Posted by T-Giv

FYI Lakewood PD is referred to as "Agents" not officers. I've run across some that are pretty defensive about not being addressed properly.

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Yup. And you are probably too young to remember when they didn't wear a traditional police uniform, and instead wore blue blazers.

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Originally Posted by hatidua

The story here isn't that two little miscreants exist, it's the stupidity of the "victim".

-Leave two guns and knife in unattended car (rocket science attempt #1)
-Don't lock car (rocket science attempt #2)

Sorry, not feeling a whole lot of shock/awe on this one.

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It is a BIG part of the story. Yes the victim screwed the pooch royally, but these worthless little POS's were trolling the lot, flipping door handles. They exhibited malicious intent to commit crime(s).
Glad the little F'ers were caught, and I hope they are punished accordingly.


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Originally Posted by Rooskibar03

You know it takes an entire new level so stupid to rob cars at a place where most, if not all, of the patrons are armed.

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They're 11 and 13. Sure, they should know better, no question about that. But how many 11 and 13 year old kids have the mental maturity level to NOT make stupid decisions on practically a daily basis? And so what if patrons are armed? This is a trespass to a vehicle...not a robbery. Would you expect one of the patrons to shoot two kids because they're stealing stuff from a car?

Obviously the kids made some really poor choices. But, leaving guns in your car and not locking it? Imagine the civil suit the gun owner would be facing if he'd left one of the guns loaded and one of the kids shot themselves...or someone else. He made a really serious mistake that could've cost him far more than the loss of two guns and a knife.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

while you should lock your doors, I dont think that should mean that dirtbag pieces of shit should steal your stuff.

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Should, and won't are two very different times.

Unlocked cars not having stuff stolen from them - Mayberry.
Unlocked cars having stuff stolen from them - urban USA, 2013.

I'm as happy as anyone that they got caught (not that it will do squat to deter them from trying again), but I've grown exceedingly weary of hearing about people getting all hot/bothered because someone stole their iphone/backpack/insert-item-of-choice from their unlocked car.

It's sad that theft is so common but in light of that reality, anyone who nonchalantly leaves valuables in a car, and then has the intellect to leave said car unlocked should not feign surprise when those items go missing. Thieves are sadly to be expected in any American city the size of Denver.

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Originally Posted by T-Giv

FYI Lakewood PD is referred to as "Agents" not officers. I've run across some that are pretty defensive about not being addressed properly.

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Not to derail the thread, but I have met numerous newer officers (in the last 10 years) that like being called Officer or don't mind one way or the other.

The whole story behind the "Agent" thing is actually pretty neat I think. It's just not practical for current policing and communication

Unloaded or not, glad we don't have New York laws here or the owner probably would've been arrested.

I park there all the time, but always take my gear in with me. Thanks to the original poster for this thread; good to know!

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

They're 11 and 13. Sure, they should know better, no question about that. But how many 11 and 13 year old kids have the mental maturity level to NOT make stupid decisions on practically a daily basis? And so what if patrons are armed? This is a trespass to a vehicle...not a robbery. Would you expect one of the patrons to shoot two kids because they're stealing stuff from a car?

Obviously the kids made some really poor choices. But, leaving guns in your car and not locking it? Imagine the civil suit the gun owner would be facing if he'd left one of the guns loaded and one of the kids shot themselves...or someone else. He made a really serious mistake that could've cost him far more than the loss of two guns and a knife.

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Well said

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

They're 11 and 13. Sure, they should know better, no question about that. But how many 11 and 13 year old kids have the mental maturity level to NOT make stupid decisions on practically a daily basis? And so what if patrons are armed? This is a trespass to a vehicle...not a robbery. Would you expect one of the patrons to shoot two kids because they're stealing stuff from a car?

Obviously the kids made some really poor choices. But, leaving guns in your car and not locking it? Imagine the civil suit the gun owner would be facing if he'd left one of the guns loaded and one of the kids shot themselves...or someone else. He made a really serious mistake that could have cost him far more than the loss of two guns and a knife.

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I dunno...at 11 and 13 I wasn't going around parking lots seeing if people left their car doors unlocked so I could lift weapons. At that age, I may, or may not have toliet papered a friend's house but I think there is a big difference. Both are pretty immature, but stealing shows serious disrespect for other people's property and a serious lack of moral guidance. Everything has a scale of grey and nothing is black and white but I think this went over the line and the fault lies with the kids and their parents. I think we should lay the blame with those who showed intent.

As for gun owner, yeah, he can share some fault but, has anybody here ever accidentally left their sliding glass door in the back yard unlatched? How about a ground floor window open in the summer time? Anybody ever watch your garage door going down as you pulled out the driveway only to return later to see that it is up? I have and I know we don't live in mayberry anymore so I kick myself when I accidently do something like that. The guy could be full of it, but he said that he intended to lock it. His hands were just full of things. Going to an indoor gun range, only wanting to make one trip and his hands were full....I'm shocked! I'll be honest-right now, there is a slight chance my car is unlocked. I had quite a few papers in my hand and my lunch when I left it in the work parking lot. Guess what...if someone went through it, they would find a knife. Granted it's a leatherman I leave in there, but it's still a weapon.

IMHO, and again, just my opinion, the truly sad thing is these kids were 11 and 13. ELEVEN and THIRTEEN!!! These kids weren't even old enough to drive. They should be doing after school sports or boy scouts or something. Instead they learned this type of behavior and they didn't just learn it the day prior.

I guess what this really says is we live in sad times where kids this young are hooligans and that we should all take a second or two more to make sure our stuff is secured and locked up tight.

Should they be shot for their crimes? No. Should they get a serious ass-whuppin'? Probably. Should they be grounded until they're thirty? I would have been...

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Should they be shot for their crimes? No. Should they get a serious ass-whuppin'? Probably. Should they be grounded until they're thirty? I would have been...

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Every wooden spoon in our house wood have been broken on me........and that would have been before my dad came home and the belt came out.

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Every wooden sopon in our house wood have been broken on me........and that would have been before my dad came home and the belt came out.

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I suspect wooden spoons would have been broken on you, and me for less egregious errors in judgement, thereby preventing behavior to get to that point in the first. I see less spoons being broken in how we handle our children today :(

The worse sound ever....a leather belt clearing belt loops. wump-wump-wump-wump

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I suspect wooden spoons would have been broken on you, and me for less egregious errors in judgement, thereby preventing behavior to get to that point in the first. I see less spoons being broken in how we handle our children today :(

The worse sound ever....a leather belt clearing belt loops. wump-wump-wump-wump

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I got chills remembering that belt sound.

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The worse sound ever....a leather belt clearing belt loops. wump-wump-wump-wump

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<shudders> Yep! My mother had a belt (one of those painful thin ones) hanging on the kitchen wall. I swear, no matter where in the house she was, she'd grab that thing and have my backside tanned in a heartbeat when I screwed up!! Then I'd get it from my Dad when he got home...

Kids these days... More evidence of societal abdication of responsibility.

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Originally Posted by KevDen2005

Not to derail the thread, but I have met numerous newer officers (in the last 10 years) that like being called Officer or don't mind one way or the other.

The whole story behind the "Agent" thing is actually pretty neat I think. It's just not practical for current policing and communication

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True I have also run into newer ones that don't mind as much but I got sternly corrected when I referred to an older agent as an officer. I guess it all depends on your generation.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

They're 11 and 13. Sure, they should know better, no question about that. But how many 11 and 13 year old kids have the mental maturity level to NOT make stupid decisions on practically a daily basis? And so what if patrons are armed? This is a trespass to a vehicle...not a robbery. Would you expect one of the patrons to shoot two kids because they're stealing stuff from a car?

Obviously the kids made some really poor choices. But, leaving guns in your car and not locking it? Imagine the civil suit the gun owner would be facing if he'd left one of the guns loaded and one of the kids shot themselves...or someone else. He made a really serious mistake that could've cost him far more than the loss of two guns and a knife.

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I blame the parents, yes kids are stupid and yes I made some major mistakes as a kid, but I never stole anyone's gun because I knew how dangerous guns were and I knew not to handle one without an adult.

Also, my father was a huge and terrifying man. Any decision I made as a kid revolved around whether it would get me held aloft by my arms and spanked so hard I'd swing like a pendulum.

The owner of the truck definitely needs a reality check as well, but those little shits were looking for trouble and found it.

But they were stolen "FOR THE CHILDREN".[Sarcasm2]

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<shudders> Yep! My mother had a belt (one of those painful thin ones) hanging on the kitchen wall. I swear, no matter where in the house she was, she'd grab that thing and have my backside tanned in a heartbeat when I screwed up!! Then I'd get it from my Dad when he got home...

Kids these days... More evidence of societal abdication of responsibility.

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on that note:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-2

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Why won't America ratify the UN convention on children's rights?

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Most American laws are already consistent with the pact, but not all. A notable exception is that in America under-18s can be jailed for life without parole (until 2005, they could be sentenced to death). The treaty prohibits cruel and degrading punishment, so ratification might curb smacking. Although America has laws against child abuse, a third of states allow corporal punishment in schools and none bans it at home.

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But I don't have kids so I'm not allowed to have an opinion on em. [Flower]

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I blame the parents, yes kids are stupid and yes I made some major mistakes as a kid, but I never stole anyone's gun because I knew how dangerous guns were and I knew not to handle one without an adult.

Also, my father was a huge and terrifying man. Any decision I made as a kid revolved around whether it would get me held aloft by my arms and spanked so hard I'd swing like a pendulum.

The owner of the truck definitely needs a reality check as well, but those little shits were looking for trouble and found it.

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My wife got a dirty look at the Target in Glendale because she scolded my daughter ( no spanking, no yelling...just a stern warning and talking to ). The lady even had the nerve to make some type of grunt and shake her head. My wife without skipping a beat told her to mind her own damn business. Times have changed.

Hate to be the lone voice of dissent but it doesn't matter if you leave your crap laying in the front yard, if it's not yours leave it the fuck alone. I assume no responsibility for the larceny in your heart. Reality might say if you want to keep it hide it up your ass but it's BS that if you don't you are even "partially" responsible, sorry but that's crap.

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Hate to be the lone voice of dissent but it doesn't matter if you leave your crap laying in the front yard, if it's not yours leave it the fuck alone. I assume no responsibility for the larceny in your heart. Reality might say if you want to keep it hide it up your ass but it's BS that if you don't you are even "partially" responsible, sorry but that's crap.

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I agree with you in theory. Many homeowners policies have stipulations about if you are robbed but you left your door wide open. Part of that may be a measure against fraud though, as it would be easy to just hide some stuff and show that it is "gone" without any signs of forced entry on your domicile.

Have faith in God, but lock your doors people. This is how thieves operate. They walk through parking lots and check door handles until they find one that was left open. Then, they rummage through it for a quick minute and continue on in their search for treasure - at your expense if you allow it. Not only is it imperative to lock your doors, but keep high $$$ items out of sight. I bet you $100 if you walk through any Walmart parking lot during the day, you can spot morons who leave their iPhones, GPS systems. laptops, Oakley sunglasses, iPods, etc. out in plain view, ripe for the picking. Might as well put a sign over your car that says, "Free Stuff".

Good thing there weren't high cap mags or they would have got a misdemeanor charge as well.... [sarcasm]