Well..kinda.I think I love her.Shes got four out,here's a couple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOsN-P5abVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20RoAfflGCM
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Well..kinda.I think I love her.Shes got four out,here's a couple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOsN-P5abVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20RoAfflGCM
Nice! I hate how people (comments) automatically think though that if you are a woman you can't have an opinion and effectively get a point across. I think she spoke well and presented herself in a professional manner.
Well boys and girls of Colorado LE, please respond in the context in which this was presented, where do you stand?
TEA
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I'm a civilian employee for a police agency. I for one would not stand with any agency who tried to force me into harming civilians over unconstitutional/unlawful orders. I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States LONG before ever getting into law enforcement.
I am not in law enforcement, but I have often wondered the very things she it saying. It would be interesting to hear from l.e.on the forum.
If this ever became and issue would those same law enforcement and Soldiers leave there families unsecure at home?
Which is more important? Rounding up citizens or defending your family from the neighbors who know you are out doing this?
The Law Makers can only be protected from We the People for so long..........will thier laws protect them?
For those who will, this is one in the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEAMRICO
I do not expect any LEO on here or any where to publically answer this question and risk their career in a time of peace.
While the video seems to take an aggressive stance and putting those breaking laws in the "victim zone" I think that it is very important to make the distinction that a society without rule of law is anarchy and chaos. Rules and laws are needed, and the will need to be enforced. Drawing a line is not the issue at all because there is an exception to every rule. The real issue here is thinking for ones self and making rational decisions based on solid moral principal. Then having the balls to stand up, not to the enforcers, but the law makers and demand justice, transparency and accountability.
In every group of people there will be those that blindly follow, and drawing a line will needlessly force a confrontation where there is no right or wrong side. Acting as a rational thinking individual and voicing your concerns to the right audience will send a loud and clear message to politicians that their true intent is known and that they will not get away with the creation of unjust laws. If we really wanted to make things better we would find a way to hold politicians and lawyers accountable and send a few of them to prison for enacting unconstitutional laws.
Part of the reason I'm no longer in LE. Maybe a small part but it was bothering me nonetheless...and that was 12 years ago. I gave up a 14 year career because I just didn't like where LE in general was headed. I miss it...but not the part she's talking about. I'm glad it never came to that for me.
tl; dw.
Summary?
"Dear cops, if one day you are told to do something unconstitutional or otherwise a violation of people's rights, how will you react?"Quote:
Originally Posted by centrarchidae
What Josie asks is a valid question. That, as one poster noted, no LE would be expected to answer publicly that question out of FEAR of losing one's ability to make a living and follow their chosen career path ... I can't put into words what I feel that American citizens that have chosen to put themselves in harms way to serve their fellow citizens can't speak up and say what is on their minds. Have we fallen so far to be that afraid? These are good and valiant men and women and now that they know the question, cannot answer as their assumed masters don't approve and will punish them for their opinion and their supposed freedom to speak their minds. Of course it could be strategic to stay silent and not let the masters know who in their ranks will stand for freedom when push comes to shove. I just hope they will stand up to be counted when it starts to happen and not just follow orders. It may even be too late at that point. It may be too late already but I pray that our LE will not become the tool of a force for evil under the guise of doing what is best, good, fair and right for our own good.
I will stand with you. I know that ain't much but it is all I have.
TEA
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Isn't this question what Oath Keepers is all about? https://oathkeepers.org/oath/
A lawful society is somewhere between Anarchy and Tyranny.
This was my first thought as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman