-pretty sad weekend for a whole lot of families :(
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-pretty sad weekend for a whole lot of families :(
scary stuff,
stolen passports used to board the plane, one repoprt showing that stolen passports are used to board planesd all the time.
no debris field to be found, plane just disappears.
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Originally Posted by rockhound
Just read piece of debris found. Now in process of verifying.
The geniuses over at CNN were reporting "the black boxes may hold the keys to the mystery".
No shit Sherlock but you kinda need to find the plane first.
RIP
yea pretty interesting events...will be very interested as to what happened...RIP
Amazing to have a 777 disappear like that without so much as a mayday.
Wonder if it will end up being like the EgyptAir flight where the pilot decided to take his crew and passengers to meet Allah
Just gotta hope it was quick for those innocent folks. I'm amazed at the amount of flights everyday and stuff like this happens only a few times a year.
Copied from another site.
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Malaysia Plane Crash & Things that make you go hmmm...So apparently there were 20 people from Freescale out of Texas lost their lives in the Malaysia Jet crash today.
Bummer... that sucks!
But my 'I'm fawking bored so let's check into things' receptors went off & I started looking into what could have been happening in the company - that might have warranted dropping a 777 full of people into the sea.
Well wiki was a yawner.. at first... (ok accidents and weird coincidences happen alll the time ) but then the last line talked about this nifty new chip they just came out with - is the tiniest ever - and meant for internal use hmmm... could be interesting ... lets have a look!
Kinetis
On 26 February 2013, Freescale Semiconductor announced the creation of the world’s smallest (by size) ARM-powered chip. The Kinetis KL02 measures 1.9 by 2 millimeters and is a full microcontroller unit (MCU), meaning the chip sports a processor, RAM, ROM, clock and I/O control unit. The chip competes with the Atmel M0+ offerings, which are the low-power leaders in the industry [17] One application that Freescale says the chips could be used for is swallowable computers. Freescale already works with a variety of health and wellness customers. Both the Fitbit and OmniPod insulin pump use Freescale chips. The new chip was on display at 'Embedded World' in Nuremberg, Germany from February 26, 2013 to February 28, 2013.[18]
Holy Shit!
http://www.wired.com/design/2013/02/...-tiny-arm-chip
The creepiest part ... "Though it’s going to be available for general retail, Freescale says that the KL02 was specifically designed in response to a customer’s request. (They aren’t saying who.)"
Gosh who could possibly want an easily assimilated micro computer that keeps track of your every move, thought, and can cause your body to release or not release chemicals into your system?
To the conspiracy minded out there.. don't forget that air france disappeared without a mayday as well. A catastrophic malfunction happened, isn't the first time. Hope they all went peacefully.
sent from a soup can and some string..
Very interesting quote from the other site... Certainly makes you think.
Air France flight 447 was an Airbus A330. Boeing builds a stronger airframe with a different operational mindset, IMO. The 777 has been one of the safest aircraft produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
Even after a pilot error with 777 Asiana Airlines flight 214 clipping the sea wall on landing in San Francisco, only 3 fatalities and the rest of the 307 aboard survived.
I think def90's point is that planes can disappear without a mayday. Destructive reactions can build up without the pilot's notice -- and the pilot himself may be unable to cope with the event to the point of not issuing a mayday. You can build the strongest airframe in the world with the best autopilot software but a bad pilot can make it all irrelevant.
I am puzzled by the lack of a debris trail. It implies whatever happened not only went down fast but maintained most of the structural integrity of the aircraft (of course, the stronger airframes made by Boeing made be an element of this but recall TWA 800 had a pretty significant debris trail).
You are right it is puzzling too. Wings part and rudder component should be found floating since they are mostly honeycomb composites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
And about the stronger frame claim, lets not forget that the fuselage of the A330 lost in the southern atlantic was found partly intact
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Within a week of resuming of the search operation, on 3 April 2011, a team led by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution operating full ocean depth autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs) owned by the Waitt Institute discovered, by means of sidescan sonar, a large portion of debris field from flight AF447.[119]Further debris and bodies, still trapped in the partly intact remains of the aircraft's fuselage, were located in water depths of between 3,800 to 4,000 metres (2,100 to 2,200 fathoms; 12,500 to 13,100 ft) รข€‹"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
I'm going to blame Iran. That or the unions.
Is it even remotely possible that the plane did not crash and it landed intact somewhere? I know in the CONUS, we have a very good radar network where we can track everything, but over the ocean between pacific islands... not so much.
Aliens.
Undocumented citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
The fact they haven't found a debris trail would have led me to emergency landing somewhere but the Vietnamese seem to imply they had it on radar and lost contact just before it entered Vietnamese air control. I would love to know what they meant by "lost contact". I imagine the searchers and investigators are going crazy over this one as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
You might be right: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...probe/6260177/Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
I think I read that there is a theory that it turned around. If it did, then the losing contact could simply be a function of being out of range. The ocean can be mighty big...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Might be a conspiracy....Attachment 41909
Just read a crawl on Fox saying there investigating emp activity
Was there ever really a plane?
Even it the AC was gently set on the ocean there would be debris.
Even if it burned in vertically at 800 mph there would be debris.
This AC landed somewhere.
Stolen and all aboard are hostages somewhere in the m east.
I agree completely. No way this thing is still flying around on one tank of gas several days later.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Big ocean. Complicated machinery. Dangerous world. I'm always surprised it doesn't happen more often. We get lulled into just how routine it is to put a few hundred tons of steel six and half miles in the sky and make it go 400 miles per hour. It is still safer than driving down I-25 during rush hour.
I'm guessing that if the plane "destructed" at altitude that there would be a large debris field and that if the plane "destructed" at point of impact with the surface of the ocean that the debris field would be limited if any..
Finding an object the size of a airliner seat in an area the size of the south china sea or pacific ocean is a lesson in futility. I actually talked to someone yesterday about this and they thought that the entire surface of the earth was under radar contact.. enough said.
sent from a soup can and some string..
A South China Sea triangle? I read on Saturday that they found an oil slick off the coast of Vietnam, but nothing else. It had to go somewhere... Alpha Centuari is still somewhere... [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
Let's just hope Kate survived... [Love1]Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthabagah
The 2 oil slicks off the coast of Vietnam were found to be unrelated.
A Puzzle With No Pieces: What Happened to Malaysia Plane?
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The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is so baffling that veteran aviation investigators say they are struggling to come up with a plausible theory in the absence of any wreckage.
There are only a handful of scenarios that could explain how a usually reliable wide-body jet could seemingly vanish from a clear sky with no distress call and no obvious debris field.
And for every circumstance that would seem to support one theory, another undercuts it.
"It's a thousand-piece puzzle, and we have two pieces and we're trying to make a picture with that," said John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board.
"I'm totally confused, to be honest with you. Nothing makes sense."
Added former NTSB investigator Greg Feith, "You can't rule anything out at this point."
Yes, very possible.. take control of cockpit, kill the ACARS system, transponder, ELT, and fly low, it could have made it to North Korea.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
The plot thickens:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2701720140311
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In one of the most baffling mysteries in recent aviation history, a massive search operation for the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER has so far found no trace of the aircraft or the 239 passengers and crew.
Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.
"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the senior military officer, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.
That would appear to rule out sudden catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean the plane flew around 500 km (350 miles) at least after its last contact with air traffic control, although its transponder and other tracking systems were off.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...d06_story.htmlQuote:
There was no distress signal or radio contact indicating a problem and, in the absence of any wreckage or flight data, police have been left trawling through passenger and crew lists for potential leads.
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One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.
A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.
Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.
The phantom calls triggered a new level of desperation and anger for some. They tried repeatedly Sunday and Monday to ask airline and police officials about the ringing calls and QQ accounts. However unlikely it was, many thought the phones might still be on, and that if authorities just tracked them down, their relatives might be found. But they were largely ignored.
Showing that someone is online is pretty meaningless I think. It probably shows I'm viewing this site 24 hours a day for the past several years since I never turn off my main computer and browse from several different devices.
Very interesting HB. But one question comes up with that second article, why would their cell phones be on? They were on a plane and cell phones are supposed to be turned off or in airplane mode, neither of which will ring when called (it'll only go to voicemail). That makes me question if they are being held captive somewhere and some managed to hide their cell phones and turn them on. Sure, might be far fetched, but the search crews should quickly be able to rule it out by tracking them (I believe that network providers and possibly 911 have the capability of turning the GPS receiver on remotely to obtain a location).
[tinhat]
Alternatively, maybe they're being held captive and are being infected with the T-Virus (or other zombie-like state inducing virus) and then will be magically found floating at sea, rescued and returned to civilization to infect the rest of the world. [Panic]
But seriously, it's very mysterious and I hope we find out what happened to the plane!
This is also true, a lot of chat sites (Gmail, Facebook, uh, others) will still show you as active/online even hours after you've logged off or even closed the browser window).Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
grief-stricken family members hoping beyond hopeQuote:
One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.
A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.
Lets see.... survived plane crash.... lost at sea..... what to do? OH YEAH! I need to update my facebook! I will get around to calling for help later.
I was reading somewhere that a probable explanation is the numbers were handed to the Chinese (for processing or somesuch), hence why they might be "active."
Ah HA!
I KNEW it!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...port_users.jpg
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Originally Posted by BuffCyclist
I don't turn off my cell when the plane takes off.....I'm such a rebel