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I'm wondering if anyone here might be able to tell me what kind of tree this is. I realize a photo of it with full leaves in July would be preferable but this is all I can offer at the moment (bark, leaves, tree) -
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Might email the Tree Farm in Longmont if you don't find out there. I've used them to price out trees from claims I've worked in the past.
Elm, not sure what variety but it is identical to the one in my yard.
Betcha dsboutdoors can tell ya.
I emailed The Tree Farm but have not heard back from them so I posted here figuring someone might be able to tell what it is. Apparently there's a sequel to the pine bark beetle, the "ash borer" so I'm just hoping this isn't an ash tree...
Check with jrtheo8. That's what he does.
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I think (not 100% sure) it's an Ash. Doing a little googling, it looks like elm leaves have sawtooth edges and ash leaves, more or less, don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Just going by what the guy who trimmed it a couple years ago said it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim B
And yes, the Ash Borers are on their way. Ashes are really nice trees but I planted maples instead, because of the threat from the borers. [Mad] (Not that there's anything wrong with maples, I'd just like a little more variety.)
That my friend is an Ash tree. Maybe a Marshall seedless ash. Or some other type of green ash.Quote:
Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh
Right now the only place in CO that has the ash bore is in Boulder. But they do expect the AB to be a major epidemic soon.
The leaves look very similar between the two. The elm leaves I googled look more round than the ones in the picture hatidua posted. [Dunno][Dunno]Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
http://www.creeksideboulder.com/mag/...ip000544_1.jpg
Actually I think it's a Summit Ash because of the rough bark. Marshall are more a smooth bark.
Well, I was hoping it wasn't an ash but it looks like it is (I just heard back from the state dept of agriculture and they also say it's an ash).
Bummer, it really does shade the entire backyard in Summer...
I wouldn't get rid of it just yet. The Dep. of Agg. is doing what they can to control AB right now. Enjoy it as much as you can until it gets out of control.
My wife received a letter from a company that took out a very large tree in our backyard several years back (dead Siberian Elm) suggesting that there is a course of 'treatment' for the ash borer problem. We'll keep it until it's thoroughly dead, which hopefully isn't too soon, but it's certainly not news we were hoping for.
Good read for ya.
http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles...m_medium=email
thank you/Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
This reminds me I have several trees that need to be identified that I haveto picture and send off to the county or something. I am afraid I have a couple Russian Olive trees.
You bet. If you are looking to replace it, check out Maple trees "Autumn Blaze" to be more specific. Also ornamental pear trees would be a good choice. [Beer]Quote:
Originally Posted by hatidua
Russian Olive trees are defiantly on the "Obnoxious Weed list" and should be removed if you get a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
Awesome trees. [Awesom] I also have a Bowhall maple (columnar) that's turning out to be pretty nice. A good choice if there isn't a lot of room around the tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
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Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
The people that owned the house let a billion saplings/seedlings sprout underneath these two. I reclaimed the space, but at the expense of my skin. The friggin thorns are a PITA. And they have some coating that makes them extra ouchy.
If you do have Russian olives and plan to tackle them yourself you can probably only take the brush to a landfill. Most organic/recycle places won't take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
OP, I'd keep it until it starts going south then call to get it removed. Company I once worked for loved to prolong the inevitable, costing the client money.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
Or hackberry tree.
Ohhh ya they are. When we were kids, my younger brother started climbing our tree. A year later he was complaining about his hand hurting. Had some X-Ray taken and he had a 2" thorn that had gone into his hand from the side and through the pinky bone, and it heeled over the thorn. At the time it happened he didn't say anything as he was afraid he'd get in trouble. Has a very nice scar from the removal surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
So if it dies and you dig it up do you have an "Ash hole" in the yard?
While there is an effort to remove Russian Olive because they are non native and invasive in some habitats, I disagree with blanket removal of existing trees. Russian Olive is an outstanding wildlife resource tree, which is why the Colorado State Forest Service sold and planted them widely for windbreaks and wildlife shelterbelts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
The olives are used by mammals and many birds like turkey, quail, pheasant, robins, waxwings, mockingbirds and more. Russian Olive is also attracts insects which bring in warblers, finches, etc. There are shelterbelts all over eastern and western CO that are full of wildlife principally because of Russian Olive and other berry producing plants sold to ag land owners by the State Forest Service.
The thorns are nasty for sure which is why nobody wants wood chips from them. I've had many tractor tire flats from the thorns. But, Russian Olive on my property are not invasive, they only grow where I plant them, and I'm not taking them out.
That's fine to each his own. I just know they had been Ban for sale for about 25 years in Colorado. And the Colo. Dept. Of Agg. would like to see them gone. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hummer
R
ussian olive
is designated as a
“List B” species in the Colorado
Noxious Weed Act.
It is required to
be either eradicated, contained, or
suppressed depending on the local
infestations.
For more information
visit
www.colorado.gov/ag/csd
and click on the Noxious Weed
Management Program. Or call the
State Weed Coordinator at the
Colorado Department of Agriculture,
Conservation Services Division,
303-239-4100.
Here's a link for the rest of the article.
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite...&ssbinary=true
Are the olives, olives I can eat? Cuz, I have other fruit producing trees in the yard, and it looks like the previous previous owner had a desire for fruit producing trees. I caught the Plum trees on the late part of the fruit season, and they were very very yummy.
No, Olives are not edible for humans. Animal and birds yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
No, not really palatable. The fragrant flowers and berries will be sticky with sugars in spring which attracts native bees, and which in turn may pollinate your other fruit trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
DSB, you were right to point out that Russian Olive has been deemed noxious, and I'm all for removing truly noxious weeds. But I think the campaign to eradicate Russian Olive is misguided, often by young foresters looking for a project and a cause. Russian Olive is often lumped with Tamarisk which is highly invasive along western rivers and lowland waterways. Tamarisk have few redeeming qualities and little wildlife value compared to the damage they do to riparian habitats. Tams choke out native cottonwoods and other valuable trees and shrubs.
Buffaloberry is a similar, close relative of Russian Olive which is also native to Colorado from the Dolores River drainage south to Cortez. It's a great wildlife shrub, and is sold by the CO State Forest Service. I've planted a lot of Buffaloberry, along with chokecherry, mountain mahogany, honeysuckle, sumac, Forstiera and other berry shrubs. It's not as hardy as Russian Olive and won't grow into a tree, but it's a great wildlife food resource.
If the OP does not mind me adding to the "Tree ID/Arborist" thread, I'll have the bettah half post a couple pictures of them.
I think if I keep good care of them they won't get out of hand like they were. It almost looked like a bush, but after I got all the seedlings out of there the trees were obvious.
Tamarix was a nice looking plant at least the plume was. But much like some other water seeking plants, it's roots grew so deep in search of water it would break water and sewer lines to survive and thrive. They would choke out other plants for more water. Out in the plains and non resident areas Tamarix and RO would do just fine but in the Denver Metro and residential areas they said no way hoseay. Buffaloberry, chokeberry, and the others you mention, etc. are fine because they have a short root system and don't seek out a water source per say. They play nice and don't kill off other plants.
Hello All, I'm the bettah half. LOL. Here are the pictures of the trees that he is speaking of. I think I posted in the right thread. LOL, if not sorry. There are 2 photo's per tree, 1 far away and 1 up close and personal. Sorry, but for some reason the 2nd photo for each loaded sideways on the post. Attachment 41987Attachment 41989Attachment 41991Attachment 41993Quote:
Originally Posted by rbeau30
Does it have a flower to it? And do you know leaf color?Quote:
Originally Posted by cadetcandi
The new pics look like a cherry of some sort. Never mind there are some nasty thorns on it. Hawthorne of some type?
Fyi to the op. There are very effective treatments for the ash but are not cheap.
Don't know about flower, we bought it at the end of summer. The leaves I want to say, one was a frosty green and the other one was a dark leathery green. If I have to wait that is okay too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSB OUTDOORS
The leaves were skinny and longish.
The trees have the same peice of cloth tied on it like all the other trees on the property, so I figured it wasn't there by accident.
I also would like to mention that the branches are eyeball height... I may just remove them for that reason. I have to push the lawnmower around them weekly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sako55
Sup V. long time no see. I was thinking prunus family on the 1st one. The 2nd tree definatly has some nasty thorns on it, I was thinking Shepherdia ?? Hard to tell on both of them. Stumping me a my cohorts.Quote:
Originally Posted by sako55
Ok now that I look at the 1st one again I do believe it to be a Russian Olive tree. Great big thorns on it.
http://www.cooperativeconservationam...an%20olive.jpg
Still thinking about the 2nd.