SAR-2 ?

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04-07-2014, 20:48
ray1970

SAR-2 ?

It's not a 7.62 but it is an AK so I posted here.

I have a chance to pick up a Romanian SAR-2 (imported by Century I believe) and was wondering if anyone has any good info on these. From what I can gather there were actually assembled in Romania and not cobbled together by Century. It has some crappy aftermarket stuff on it but I plan on scrapping all of that and putting it back to normal or maybe swapping out some more tasteful stuff instead.

I know now there may be some surplus ammo shortages in this caliber in the near future but it looks like I can still find plenty of ammo for now at about 22 cents a round so I can stock up.

Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
04-07-2014, 20:58
GunsRBadMMMMKay

I had an SAR-1 that was pretty decent....iirc the barrel wasn't threaded, the bayonet lug was shaved, and it had the slappy romak fcg, but the barrel was chrome lined, accuracy was decent, and the function was ak reliable. I forget how to tell if the receiver is the original Romanian one....something to do with the rivets iirc.

Now that I think about it, we had an SAR-3 for a while too....that was a pretty fun one too - basically the same thing in 5.56. Man, the things i wish i wouldn't have sold looking back (or at least, wish i would have sold for more :p)
04-07-2014, 22:16
Great-Kazoo

If the price is right buy it. Of course replace the trigger (must have) and what ever else is offending you. I have some nice refinished 74 wood furniture from bobbyZ if you want to maintain true AK looks.
04-07-2014, 22:39
zteknik

SAR 2's are basically a WASR in 5.45x39.
Personally I think they are built a bit better built than the WASR, probably because they were "the new caliber" at that time for the Romanians.
Good shooters and most of them have a side rail for a scope mount.

If you do get one that was neutered you can find the parts easily to bring it back to milspec-I think APEX might have them in stock.
Oh and yea,check out some of the stocks Jim has ;)
04-07-2014, 22:51
ChunkyMonkey

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Originally Posted by ray1970

It's not a 7.62 but it is an AK so I posted here.

I have a chance to pick up a Romanian SAR-2 (imported by Century I believe) and was wondering if anyone has any good info on these. From what I can gather there were actually assembled in Romania and not cobbled together by Century. It has some crappy aftermarket stuff on it but I plan on scrapping all of that and putting it back to normal or maybe swapping out some more tasteful stuff instead.

I know now there may be some surplus ammo shortages in this caliber in the near future but it looks like I can still find plenty of ammo for now at about 22 cents a round so I can stock up.

Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

I had 2 of them in the past..both with canted front sight. I just torched and hammered it close to 90 degree, and they shot straight (Jim or bob will prolly kill me after reading this). They are beater gun imho. They were going for dirt cheap few years ago. Lately, they have been going for $500-600.
04-08-2014, 00:46
beast556

Sar series were descent guns. The one thing they have going for them is they have a commie made chrome lined hammer forge barrel. Like c monkey said make sure it dosent have canted sights. Don't over pay for it I would say 550$ tops especially if they tapco fucked it.
04-08-2014, 08:03
jreifsch80

Sar 2's are actually the least common of the sar series, it is a front sight block and muzzle device away from being a semi auto aims-74 (the Romanian ak74 basically) it does have a specific front sight block with 22mm threads instead of 24mm like the russian/german/bulgy 74. They were imported with front sight blocks that had the threaded section cut off. Up until a year or two ago kvar sold the correct Romanian 74 front sight with threads but are now sold out, they are hard to find but the barrel can be threaded 1/2-28. In my opinion the sar series is much better than the wasr's they seem to have better fit and finish and they have magwell dimples on the receiver unlike the wasr-2. If you get it and are unhappy with it I would gladly entertain trading for it. Correct wood for a sar2 is the orangish blond hard wood with a palm swell LHG correct for a 74 is a push button folder, light honey colored donky dong and a Bakelite upper or if you can find it there was the experimental Bakelite lower handgaurd but they are rare as hens teeth and expensive. Also romanian steel 30 round mags are fairly rare and pricey but tantal mags are very similar, also they accept all ak74 mags that I know of.
04-08-2014, 15:16
jerrymrc

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Originally Posted by jreifsch80

Sar 2's are actually the least common of the sar series, it is a front sight block and muzzle device away from being a semi auto aims-74 (the Romanian ak74 basically) it does have a specific front sight block with 22mm threads instead of 24mm like the russian/german/bulgy 74. They were imported with front sight blocks that had the threaded section cut off. Up until a year or two ago kvar sold the correct Romanian 74 front sight with threads but are now sold out, they are hard to find but the barrel can be threaded 1/2-28. In my opinion the sar series is much better than the wasr's they seem to have better fit and finish and they have magwell dimples on the receiver unlike the wasr-2. If you get it and are unhappy with it I would gladly entertain trading for it. Correct wood for a sar2 is the orangish blond hard wood with a palm swell LHG correct for a 74 is a push button folder, light honey colored donky dong and a Bakelite upper or if you can find it there was the experimental Bakelite lower handgaurd but they are rare as hens teeth and expensive. Also romanian steel 30 round mags are fairly rare and pricey but tantal mags are very similar, also they accept all ak74 mags that I know of.

And part of the least common was just a matter of timing. When they were cheap ($189) and plentiful there were no mags or ammo for them. That is why I went SAR3. Then after they dried up Ohio had mags for $3 each if ya bought 12. I bought a bunch and later made a killing.

I always thought the quality of the SAR series was way above the WASR and the SAR seemed cheap compared to my FEG. I remember the unfinished wood and the overall quality of the latter was very bad. I still have one of my SAR 3's and will never part with it.[Flower]
04-08-2014, 15:42
ChunkyMonkey

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Originally Posted by jerrymrc

And part of the least common was just a matter of timing. When they were cheap ($189) and plentiful there were no mags or ammo for them. That is why I went SAR3. Then after they dried up Ohio had mags for $3 each if ya bought 12. I bought a bunch and later made a killing.

I always thought the quality of the SAR series was way above the WASR and the SAR seemed cheap compared to my FEG. I remember the unfinished wood and the overall quality of the latter was very bad. I still have one of my SAR 3's and will never part with it.[Flower]

I know I have been watching Bug's SAR3 page on and off for the last 4 years. Still out of stock... Check out the price from back then..
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411545604
04-08-2014, 18:35
zteknik

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Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

I had 2 of them in the past..both with canted front sight. I just torched and hammered it close to 90 degree, and they shot straight (Jim or bob will prolly kill me after reading this). They are beater gun imho. They were going for dirt cheap few years ago. Lately, they have been going for $500-600.

But isn't that how your suppose to do it??
Maybe I mistranslated it from the Soviet manual??[facepalm]
04-08-2014, 19:12
GunsRBadMMMMKay

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Originally Posted by jerrymrc

I always thought the quality of the SAR series was way above the WASR and the SAR seemed cheap compared to my FEG. I remember the unfinished wood and the overall quality of the latter was very bad. I still have one of my SAR 3's and will never part with it.[Flower]

Yeah the SAR variants I've owned and played with where way cleaner then the WASR butcher block rifles I've had a chance to own or shoot. But they are still Romanian guns......nothing you can do about that really.
04-08-2014, 19:27
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by zteknik

But isn't that how your suppose to do it??
Maybe I mistranslated it from the Soviet manual??[facepalm]

Speaking of soviet manual, did i send you a copy of that one i showed you ? ? ?
04-08-2014, 19:36
jerrymrc

SAR's cleaned up a little. Stock wood, refinished.http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...e002Medium.jpg

And Laminate in red. Still have the red one.

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...s329Medium.jpg
04-08-2014, 21:00
zteknik

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Speaking of soviet manual, did i send you a copy of that one i showed you ? ? ?

I remember you showing it to me but I didn't get a copy.
04-09-2014, 07:29
jreifsch80

Nice sar 3 jerry, the kobra is pretty cool huh? I have been keeping my eyes open for a decent deal on a sar2 but what I'd truly love would be an AIMR carbine in 5.45 to go with my AIMR carbine converted Draco