I have a Weatherby Vanguard 7mag, all is stock. I would like to have a muzzle break on it, any ideas???????????????
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I have a Weatherby Vanguard 7mag, all is stock. I would like to have a muzzle break on it, any ideas???????????????
You looking for advise as to which one or the pro's and con's?
Don't break your muzzle. But you might want to put a brake on it.
easiest way is to take it to a gunsmith who can remove the barrel, thread the end of the barrel, and add a break. Figure roughly $100 for the break and the same for labor. And then figure $150 to $800 for electronic hearing protection[ROFL1].
It's gonna be LOUD, bro. Most guides hate breaks. If you are having problems with sight-in and range testing, you might be better served with a lead sled. You won't even feel the recoil firing a round while hunting.
I want to reduce the recoil and sound. That is what I am looking to do.
pros- cons , Ideas, anything.
Recoil reduction; definitely
Sound will be louder due to the fact you are redirecting the gases out the end of the muzzle to radial pattern. Louder in the fact it will cause permant earing damage. I do wear hearing protection while hunting. Out here you rely a lot more on sight than hearing.
There are pros and cons. You will have to decide if that is what you want. Find some one who has rifle with a brake and shoot it. I have a custom rifle made by High Tech here in town. I wanted a light rifle in 7mm WSM. It weighs in at 6lbs. I have put around 400 rds through it since last August. With the brake the recoil is like a .243 I have all the confidence in the world that what ever I put the cross hairs on I will harvest. Go to any of the ranges around hunting season. You will see people who only put 5 or 6 rounds down range flitch like hell maybe have a 6" group and call it good.
There seem to be more people who complain about brakes than care for them. I say to each their own. Some people will tell you if you can't handle the recoil step down in caliber. I shoot my .300, no brake, around 40 rds a year. The recoil is tolerable. But I would much rather squeeze the trigger on the 7 mag. The way I feel is unless you wrote the check for my weapon I don't really care what you dislike about having brake.
just my .02 worth
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Originally Posted by Dinosdeuce
This is the info that I am looking for. I knew a muzzle brake would take down the recoil, but I did not think about the sound of where it is being pushed. I am well enough to take the recoil of my 7mag & mosin. I want to have the right tools for my first elk kill this year. I have put 50rnds thru it sighting in the scope & target shooting, 2" group so far.
I think he hit it on the pro's and con's well enough and enough said. I don't like em' but to each their own. I've done a break type feature on a gun once and built the guy a thread protector that he could install if he was to shoot it(gun) with out the brake on. Not sure if that changes impact but would verify if you thought of going this route. Have fun.
The answer to your problem is a suppressor.
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Originally Posted by Sturtle
Now your talkin'
If only I could get one.................
If you can own a gun, you can own a suppressor.
How quite would a 7 mag be with a suppressor? Never even been around someone shooting a suppressed gun. How loud is the bullet going to be braking the sound barrier?
Supersonic centerfire rifle calibers, from a sound suppressor, sound about like a .22mag or loud .22lr to me. Still sounds like a gunshot, and you can really hear the supersonic crack of the bullet, but it eliminates the boom and side blast entirely.
My thoughts as well. I can't see hunting with a suppressor though. Too front heavy and not necessary for most applications. I do think you could pull off some "risky" hunting with one however. Read that how you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Circuits
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Originally Posted by Dinosdeuce
I had a light weight boat paddle stock Ruger KM-77 All Weather in 300 Win Mag.
Nobody could shoot more than 10 rounds without shoulder bruising.
I had High Tech put a comp/brake on at and it was tamer than a 270. They stated it would be like a 243, but I disagree. They cut and threaded my barrel and the comp screwed on. The seam was almost invisable.
It became a gun I could then shoot more than 20 rounds at a sitting.
Noise.....didn't matter. I always have hearing protection.
I no longer have that gun or any gun with a comp. I just buy heavier guns in the heavier calibers and a comp is not needed. I now shoot a Remy Sendero in 300 Win Mag and I can shoot it all day.... but decked out it is about 14#'s.
If the Weatherby is a gun you like, in a caliber you like and the recoil is not tolerable... a comp will definately tame it.
As far as guides not liking the comps... so what.Tell them to cover their ears when you are about to shoot and/or stand behind you like they shoud to be safe when someone is shooting.
I might be biased though; I don't use guides. Probably because I can't afford them.