Looks like graduation weekend went sideways at UCSB:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Looks like graduation weekend went sideways at UCSB:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1
His YouTube video Retribution is disturbing. I wonder how many more youths with this revenge mindset share our streets, schools, restaurants?
I would say a lot more than you realize! The only thing keeping us safe is the restricted gun laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
I am sure the media will spin that way; "he wasn't able to buy an assault rifle because____insert here____ ......." See folks our gun restrictions are working!
Are's armory was raided of their evil 80% lowers. (my insert here)
By reading comments like this it's just one more reason to be over prepared.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10mm-man
We seriously need to get assault weapons with extra big clips off the streets and out of the hands of common citizens. Once we have restricted the type of killing machines that people are allowed to own, Congress needs to start regulating the type of content that is available on the internet.
Obama needs to use his executive power to ban the second amendment from America. There's no reason for citizens to own guns, only the military and police should have them. For hunting? Um....it's called Go to the supermarket! For protection? Yeah, we have police for that as well as many various non-lethal means to protect. More people killed their loved ones and commit suicide with their murder machines than actually protect anything.
How many more gun tragedies must we endure as a country before we finally say "Enough is ENOUGH!!!" A congresswoman, innocent movie theater patrons, school children and even firemen get shot at?!?!!?! And this is what we can expect with more of the "let's have guns everywhere" laws like the rethuglicans want to pass all over the place
Well, cnn didn't mention race, so here's hoping it doesn't turn into traditional white-man-NRA-funded pointing match.
Therein lies the reason I fear what gun laws may occur should the anti's have control of both the house and senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Im sure the boys lked him. He reminds me of the guy that banged stifflers mom.
Yet another mentally ill liberal goes on a killing spree in a gun free zone ... folks the problem isn't guns, the problem is we allow liberals and Democrats to walk the streets.
I'm working on a theory ... haven't fleshed it out completely yet, but I'm beginning to think the current "anti-bullying" crusade is going to create more and more of these because we're creating a culture where "bullies" are worse than Nazis and thus subhuman and not deserving to live and victims of bullying are saints and martyrs who's actions in response to the bullying are 100% forgiven because they're "victims". Extrapolate that to anyone that feels that they've been victimized by society or a subset of society and all of the sudden you have someone that can be a mass murderer of innocent people and still see himself as a victim and a "gentleman".Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
Just look at all the memes, image macros and online jokes about "The Friendzone" ... that's basically where this guy was and why he killed. He feels he was "bullied" by all females for not only not having sex with him, but for considering him a friend while having sex with alpha males (who he believes are all jerks).
In addition to my theories about anti-bullying campaigns we're also seeing the rise of the homocidle beta-male (one might argue that progressiveism/liberalism is nothing more than a system that is meant to empower the beta-male at the expense of the alpha-male and the rest of society).
Zund,
I think there may be validity in your thoughts. When I see a 22yr old college kid parked in his BMW ranting about "unfair" his life is, I want to throw him to the taliban. In simplicity, I think it is the entitlement attitude and the predominate mindset of "it is everyone fault by mine" is a factor more so in Gen Y than others, but I'm opining.
And puntang? Really? Where was this guy's dad?
Looks like Daddy was a Hollywood Director. Yep, good schools, cars. Probably got everything he wanted in life but when the girls would not put out for him it is all their fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
And most likely because of the upbringing he could not adjust his "standards". Something I learned at about 14. I never cared for the "A" list girls in HS anyway because most were so stuck on themselves and clueless. [LOL]
Watched the vid. Yep, stuck up rich kid with no social skills. Somebody watched too many soap operas.
He is right about one thing. He will be a god. The media will see to it.
What a waste.
Dis find this comment interesting.
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Actually, when this happens we have anti-gun people point and go guns are bad. Then the rest of us with an IQ above 70 go, hmm ... is it just me or do all these mass murderers seem to have mental health problems.
Then the media will glamorize it with days to weeks of frontline news stories inadvertently putting the crazy person on a pedestal for the NEXT person with mental health problems to emulate.
Lol... Was this the fruit cake who did it? Dude couldn't even find some __________.... Geez! Not sure that's the issue with this guy. Think there is some serious issues going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Figuring out how to divvy the kilo of coke one of his "friends" scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
I thought the "effeminate" look in guys was what the girls wanted these days?[mlp][LOL]
IF your daddy is buying you a fairly if not brand new BMW.. life is not that tough...
fuckin psychos
NO idiot-Elliot. It is because you are weirdo and crazy. For the future references for weirdos in the world. Women don't like freaks and weirdos. I don't care you are fugly, aneroxic, obese, or bald at age of 22. I assure you that you will get diversity of chicks.
22 age without sex or kiss? so what? Over 33% of my physics and engineering friends never even held the girl's hand. Of course that changed after they finished all the schooling.
I've seen guys who were 23+ and virgin who had tons more sex than average people had. If he waited and changed his attitude, he probably get bus load of women semi-annually. Sad that this idiot couldn't wait and acted crazy.
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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Making it worse is that dad called the cops weeks ago when the youtube video was posted.
Police interviewed the kid, and said he was "perfectly wonderful"
Not very scholarly link but had info on Dad.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ing-son-706995
He couldn't figure out why girls asked him to go shopping but never wanted to hold his hand?
My better half and I had a debate today upon reading the OP and the follow up articles...
My argument: the true psychos of yesteryear, IE: Gein, Bundy, Dalmer, et all, had a true brain anomaly that manifested their crimes.
Today, I think it is more of a "societal" conditioning more so than a true mental/physiological disability. We didn't disagree, but I'll spare you the why...[LOL]
ding ding ding!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
No one stepped in, to help the kid? Geez some dad; a drive South to Tia Juana could have (possibly) prevented this.Quote:
Originally Posted by gos
Correct, it's the gimme generation grown up and out on their own (physically) . Beemer? why not a nice toyota? Oh I know, Social status, Not having the spine to tell your kid NO !Quote:
Originally Posted by <MADDOG>
Of course the Family is anti-gun, AGAIN!
Only one so far who has it close to right. The attorney.
"My client's mission in life will be to try to prevent any such tragedies from ever happening again," he said. "This country, this world, needs to address mental illness and the ramifications from not recognizing these illnesses."
How do you address mental illness? If I understand correctly the kid was interviewed by the police, and found to be ok. What would happen if they arrested him for the video; possibly people crying about freedom of speech? The left says people who like guns, and have guns; have a mental illness. Didn't Hitler use mental illness, as an issue, and a way to incarcerate people against him? I am not so sure this is really a road to go down! We might all end up incarcerated for our love of the 2nd amendment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
People have killed people since we have existed, in many different forms, for many different things. All we need is Obama, and his administration setting the bar for what is normal, and what is considered "mental illness". I am not sure, I want to see this administration pushing for a government program that determines who is sane, and who is not.
One of the Families is blaming the NRA already.....
Rampage in college town began with stabbings - CNN.com
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One family is speaking out in anger.
Richard Martinez, father of Christopher Martinez, said to reporters. "Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights, what about Chris' right to live? When will this insanity stop?"
So, are they also going to blame on BMW E92 to haul this crazy ass to commit a crime?Quote:
Originally Posted by clublights
http://i59.tinypic.com/264su55.jpg
The first three deaths were apparently by knife so I'm not sure how much traction the "evil guns" story is going to have, not to mention the fact that all firearms were recovered with politically-safe 10rd magazines.
Flashback to James Holmes and his shrink. LE contact (supposedly) between point A & B the ball was dropped big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by trot
Regarding a civil action, guarantee there's 2-3 doz ambulance chasers camped outside the relatives homes.
22 and couldn't get laid?
He's a hell of a lot better looking than I was when I was in was 22 (or now for that matter), he's clearly got plenty of money (the BMW I drove in my late 20s was a beat up 1976 2002 and I paid $400 for it) and he lives in a southern California town surrounded by morally ambiguous hot chicks whereas I grew up in Wichita Kansas (a city noted as being one of the worst cities in America for singles) and I got laid pretty much any time I wanted to.
An HA! Daddy's in the movie business ... someone (Daddy or one of daddy's colegues) diddled this little ball of metrosexual psychosis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ah Pook
How convenient ... son of prominent Hollywierd liberal murders a bunch of folk so they can blame us and the NRA ... gotta wonder if there isn't some odd programing in these families (aren't they cut from the same cloth as those that had their children singing hymns about Obama?)Quote:
Originally Posted by clublights
My opinion here, based off of my life experiences & a measly semester as a Psych major (30 years ago)..take it for what it's worth.
(1). If you act like another girlfriend to girls/women, they'll treat you like and see you as another girlfriend. Man up or shut up.
(2). You want adoration, start with a dog. Dogs give adoration freely and help teach you how to give it back.
(3). Clearly a narcissist. It's all about me me me. I believe he's a product of this whole "Everyone is a winner, no one is a loser" mentality/social practice. The kid had no coping skills with rejection & expected life to be "fair". His "Retribution" video showed me a person of entitlement. Fancy car, etc. He felt he was entitled to, or deserved, girls throwing themselves at him since he was such a fine specimen of a man. He had no idea how to step outside of himself and rationally evaluate why girls weren't interested in him. But then again, why should he have to do that, he should be getting girls just because he exists - he's entitled. He expected life to be "fair" since everybody goes home with a ribbon. When he got a taste of the real world he couldn't cope and decided to make others pay for the unfairness of it all. What he should have done is gone home and slapped his parents in the face for shielding him from disappointment in his life and not preparing him for what the real world had in store for him.
What, this kid couldn't get laid by one of his "friends" on Facebook?
Guys, this kid was a sociopath. A bona-fide sociopath that belonged to several "Superior male" sorts of groups. Misogynistic, racist and the whole entitled attitude.
He released a 141-page single-spaced manifesto that will raise your hair, if you can get that far. Narcissistic, grudge-holding and living in a downward spiral. It's no wonder women shied away from him.
You can google the manifesto.
I feel for the victims and their families.
Oh hey- "fat chicks" are not second-class citizens. So even though he couldn't even score with a "fat chick," that's not anyone's problem but his.
^To The Grey. There are some dumb fawks here. Sad reality.
I like this guy...to an extent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQY76gpImmA
myspace was much better for hook ups .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Or maybe I was just younger then LOL
Particularly scary since my sis's church was just two blocks away from one of the killings. I hadn't even been paying attention to the news, so didn't hear about this until I met my folks for dinner. On hearing it, my mom'd been quite worried until she saw my sis was OK.
On fox news last night one of the guests was a woman shrink. She said after watching the video the first time she thought he was a heterosexual who was completely frustrated by lack of success with women. However, after watching it a few more times she came to the belief that he is actually a frustrated homosexual. I didn't hear an explanation of why she felt that way.
Another product of the entitlement/victomhood mentality of the progressive left. Guess it applies to all income ranges now.
This case clearly shows "sensible" gun laws and gun free zones do not work. He killed his first three victoms with a knife and tried more than once with his car. His rant spoke about later getting the SUV to make it easier to kill more with that vehicle than his BMW sedan. He was motivated to kill by any means and just used the tools at his disposal.
I pray for peace for the victims. I see civil suits coming and the politicians are printing off new anti gun legislation for Tuesday morning.