They are here! It only took 12 years since they released the first gen. And the new ones are less then the old ones per tire! I have my next set of tires picked out.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rain+T%2FA+KO2
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They are here! It only took 12 years since they released the first gen. And the new ones are less then the old ones per tire! I have my next set of tires picked out.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....rain+T%2FA+KO2
Lets go drifting to burn off the old ones!
I was excited until I looked at the size selection. Hopefully they expand it soon. Not many choices
I couldn't spin my tires free if I had a gun to my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
They have the size I have on my Cruiser, so I am happy. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
They only have one size in a 17" wheel and I need a little bigger. Been a big fan of the BFG AT though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
If you are a fan of the old design, then the KO2 may be a good choice for you. With that said, they did nothing to update the most important part of the tire (the tread). Some swear by the design, some do not. I enjoyed the original KO's well enough, but think I'll stick to my Duratracs.
I think it's a good all around tire (for me anyway). Not the best for all situations but a good compromise. My biggest beef with most of the Goodyears and they wear so fast. How are your Duratracs doing?
Actually they did change quite a bit with the tread. Nothing drastic, but there are there. I have the Duratracs on the cruiser and they are allright. TKO2 with longer treadlife, better compound, higher sidewall rupture resistance are going to be very nice. Especially since they are less money.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Granted I have only seen pics, but from what I could tell, all they changed was the sidewalls, beyond that the rest of it looks the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPTxnRg_BRAQuote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Fair enough, definitely some significant changes not really visible to (my) the naked eye. Those sidewalls look quite beefy, which is one thing I don't think the duratrac excels in.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
Admittedly that is a promotional vid. So take it with a grain of salt. But I am strongly considering buying a set before the snow flies and selling the duratracs I have on the cruiser now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
True.. I don't think you'll regret the KO2 one bit, it's the longest unchanged AT for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmleadr03
I said I'll stick with my Duratracs, but I've actually been looking hard at the Cooper ATP for my next tire. I just don't wheel like I used to, and could use better DD manners.
My Duratracs have 21,111 miles on them, and this is the wear...Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...143b9c6cb7.jpg
Sorry to hijack.
That's pretty good! My past experience with good years would almost be bald with that many miles. (heavy 3/4 ton truck though)Quote:
Originally Posted by hurley842002
Youre not supposed to smoke the tires after every stop you make!Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
Yeah, in years past I'd buy new rubber after 50% wear because I wheeled almost every weekend and wanted the added tread, plus I could sell premium 50% tires for $3-$400 for the set on CL. Anymore it's not financially feasible.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
I would enjoy something a little more aggressive in the winter, I've even considered running full mudders, and these would fit the bill nicely, but without the 285-305 'ish 17" option in load range E, they're not gonna work on my 2500 RAM Diesel.
I've tried a few other makes/models on my jeeps over the last 20 years but always went back to the BFG's.. Don't think I'll ever try anything else again.
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Originally Posted by sniper7
I'm old and frugal, that is far from my driving style :-)
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Originally Posted by brutal
I'm in the same boat. Ram 2500 Diesel and I need something in that range.
Not to derail this thread but I do need new tires soon. 285/75-17, 295.70-17, 305/70-17 "E" load range. something around that size. Can't seem to find much in a all terrain other then Ntto Terra grapplers which I hear wear really bad. Longevity and decent snow performance are of importance. Nothing too aggressive that my mileage will really suffer.
I've been very pleased with the BFG Rugged Terrain. Wearing well towing and decent enough traction otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
They also have a 50K treadwear warranty.
They're not as sticky as AT-KO's, but you're going to have to compromise a little to get the treadwear.
The BFG-AT-KO were too squishy and not nearly as stable as the Rugged Terrain and I only got around 15-20K out of them towing. I think I've got 15-20K on these and they're maybe 40% down. They worked well Elk Hunting last year and kept me on the trail.
I had the last version and have not had a better tire. Best all around traction, best wear around for such a meaty tire. I'm waiting for the Generals to wear out so I can upgrade.
I would need 255/80-17
I've been running the Toyo Open Country ATII on my personal truck and it's been a great tire so far (about 15K), but then again, I have a set of Duratracs on my stock rims that I've studded for the winter so I can't comment on the winter use with any great detail. The little bit that I've ran them in snow and crap they did well but not anywhere near in the same league as the studded Duratracs, but of course they're not studded so it's not a fair comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnrider
I run nothing but duratracs on my work truck year around, because my choices are limited due to a national contract with goodyear @ work. My work truck is a Chevy 2500 extended cab and I go through a set a year on average (50K miles/year) I put a new set on pretty much every November so I have good tread in the winter and they perform very well. But with very infrequent rotation, and driving on crushed granite frequently, they are shot at 50K. They only get rotated about every 15K which is far from optimal but getting oil changes twice a month is bad enough for shop time without throwing in a tire rotation every month. If you rotated them more regularly, like every other oil change, I"m sure they'd last much better.
The new BFG's seem like a nice tire but my biggest gripe with them is since the KO's came out, they flat out don't wear as well as the old ones, but they are better on icy conditions. A buddy of mine has a set on his 1 ton Dodge Diesel (crew cab long box, so it's about as heavy as it gets on 4 tires) and they are already about shot in 25K miles. Dunno, guess we'll see how the new version does. If you're running a half ton or other lighter vehicle I'm sure they'd last much longer.