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Held one of these the other day and have to say that I was very impressed of how well built it was. However the single stack mag has got to go. Anybody out there own or shot this rifle? Anybody know a smith that can extend the magwell to accept a standard double stack magazine in a professional manner? I am thinking of getting this rifle.
I picked one up last year for $450-sold it a month later. Not a bad toy, but, to me, it did not compare to the mak90-which I use as a personal benchmark. It felt good in the hands, though-and the weight was better than the 90. Was not very accurate. It would not be hard to extend the magwell-I'm sure you'd be able to do it. I suppose the big question would be the price you can get it for. If it seems reasonable, then go for it. It would be neat to have in the collection-but as a shooter, at least the one I had-it was not worth it. Not any better than a WASR.
I appreciate the answer and from someone that had one at that. I have other options already myself but this feedback will help me just choose another quality AK, perhaps an M70B1. Thanks
Sorry-didn't mean to sound pisspoor. It really would be neat to add to the collection, and if memory serves you have/had a decent one. Not too many can say they have one, lol. Good ol' yugos.
The m70 rocks. These I like. They are tanks. Still not great for accuracy, but fun. The ones I've seen lately are still a bit overpriced, but they're coming down. I saw some for sale today and said "hey-that's a good price". Now if I can remember where.........If I do, I'll post here. Good luck!
Darn it......they had vzs I think, too.
There are, in addition, 922(r) issues with the EAA imports - you'd need to swap out a lot of parts to be able to make it accept double stack mags legally.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
Good comments, I just got another Yugo M70B1 instead. The compliance factor is something to consider on the PAP as you mention which is waht swayed me away. Nobody is pooping on my initial thoughts. In fact the comments expressed here are very valuable. Money doesnt grow on trees, and sometimes some well thought thoughts and observations from fellow members can be very valuable in evaluating a purchase. There also was not to much out on the net about the PAP as well. Since I already own a Yugo I decided to get another. I am paying about $150 more than I did 2 years ago for the Yugos M70B1 and the underfolder(Aims was selling them in 2006 for $419). I recall this January this year that the Yugos were going for a grand or more. Thankfully they can be had at $585-700 now still higher than the $419.
If memory serves, the PAP is a yugo, also. But if I had the choice, I'd go the way you are. How well a shooter an ak is is more important to me than an oddity.
On the other hand, I really like the EAA pistols. I have an older baby eagle (.40) that was manufactured by tangfoglio then assembled by IMI. And the witness, imho is still one of the best bangs for the busk ever.
I have a couple of Yugos and love em. Knowing the PAP was a Yugo was why I was interested. However the only things I have had to do with the B1s is refinish the stocks and handguards or fix a slightly canted sight. The underfolders are perfect. The PAP is nice but I would have to alot of other things as circuits mentioned to get where I want be. Probably cost more than what I spent on any B1.
I also got two of the old Baby Eagles (9mm and 45), and would never get rid of them because like you said they are great shooters (IMI). I sold a spare 45 baby eagle 2 years ago on here and kick myself everyday for doing it. Wish I could have that one back.
In the end if I had bunch of money to blow I get the PAP for the collection but right now that woud be a luxury when I have other needs. Not slaming the PAP and respect whoever is importing these right now because they look like a good alternate to other single stack options out there.
Ya, I wouldn't trade my Beagle for nuthin'....... :)
I still can't remember where I saw the ad. They were a little over 500. Maybe 515. FTF has the front end assemblies for 89 bucks, though. Might get a few of those. I'll look again later today when I feel better. Centerfire has some romy g kits for pretty cheap, but they look to be in not that great of shape. I was thinking it was classic arms, but when I went there they didn't have them. Although they do have the saigas and the tantals for cheap as hell. Or at least a lot cheaper than I've seen in about a year. I want a bulgy 74. Probably my next toy.
Good luck!
You may be interested in this deal. I recently got one of these Bulgys at Peach State Guns http://shop.peachstateguns.com/produ...&productId=619
Pretty good deal considering AIMS was selling them for $699 2 weeks ago where they sold out in one day. GB auctions are about 100-200 more. Nice deal out there. Classic Arms I bet wont put out anything new this whole summer since there inventory is sort of full. They do have some great deals on like the GP75 for example. The only AK 74s I have seen them sell in the last 2 years was the Century Tantals (which thankfully did have the correct barrels).
Ya-that's a pretty good deal! Thanks for the link!
Don't you just love guys who resurrect six month old threads! [ROFL1]
I was ar the Big R store in Elizabeth last night and that they Have these Zastava PAP's on sale for $349.99. Was researching them to find ot more about them and came across this thread here so I thought I would post a heads up. The one I saw had the composite furniture and I don't know if they have them in the wood furniture. I get Big R's circular in the mail and Received one today showing a picture of one dressed in wood. Do your homework if you want one I think I'll stick with my Yugo M70!
My o my how much has changed in six months. Never did get that PAP but went the M70 route as well. Intersting how now one can get a YUGO Underfolder for $469.00 http://www.classicarms.us/ (wish it was that way 6 months ago). PAP looks nice but when you get one of the YUGOs for 50-100 more why bother.
No Kidding! I kicked and kicked myself again for not buying one back when they were in the shops for $450 and then I had to have on during the panic buy time peroid and spent almost twice that for mine! Live and learn I guess. [Bang]