Looks like they are attacking in the US now too
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/us/new...html?hpt=hp_c2
Carry , keep your head up, eyes out, and be safe out there kids.....
Time to play cowboys and "radical muslims".....
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Looks like they are attacking in the US now too
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/us/new...html?hpt=hp_c2
Carry , keep your head up, eyes out, and be safe out there kids.....
Time to play cowboys and "radical muslims".....
Yup.
Incase anyone doesn't get the Cowboys and Muslims reference....
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Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights. One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.
Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.
The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.
Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."
The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"
The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl,
"That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's a-comin'."
I love Bozeman layovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by clublights
But to be serious, just a matter of time.
Sheesh. Might have to think about arming myself when I leave the house. Just in case.
I think I missed the part in the article where this was determined to be tied to Muslim radicals.
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Originally Posted by Irving
in the video they talk about how they (the nypd) looked at his "social media" and it may have ties to radical islam.
I may have jumped the gun a bit but i'll stand by my statement till proven otherwise.
Every where else is saying the same thing. I did not watch the video.
What is it going to take before we get serious and shut them down?
Bunch of bed wetters.
We can't do that. It might offend someone or hurt their feelings. [facepalm]Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
How? Internment camps?Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Attachment 51193Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
They want to kill us all.
Germany (through force) banned anything and everything pertaining to the Nazi party - under penalty of death.
Until we do the same with Muslims, we will just keep getting killed, little by little.
Is there another way? Think we will change their minds? It's them against everyone else. They made the rules, "with us or die."
Again, when will we stop fiddle farting around and finally recognize what we are up against, and do something about it?
First one to post "moderate Muslim" can kiss my ass.
FIFYQuote:
Originally Posted by clublights
There's a crucial difference between "radical" and "fundamentalist"... they are not interchangeable.
As far as I'm concerned, we can't kill these people fast enough.
Our government will never do anything to stop these people. They are to worried about taking care of the rest the world and being everyone's friend. Well let me tell you something, the rest of the world doesn't like us let alone want to be our friend. Their will be a straw that breaks the camels back and this country will be at war within our own borders. It will happen when the wrong extremist fucks with an armed citizen on the wrong day, there will be blood spilled and they will cry out for justice against evil gun loving Americans. When nothing is done they will riot and protest only enraging us further and we will not be backed any further into the corner. True AMERICANS will take a stand with or WITHOUT our governments help. They may be radical Muslims, but I'm a Radical American that is sick of putting up with their bullshit.
I predict this thread will soon run away. IBTL
So long as you don't call them the minority...Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantar18c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
Two things stuck in my head (other than the actual attack):
"When asked about a possible connection to terrorism, Bratton said, "There is nothing we know as of this time that would indicate that were the case. I think certainly the heightened concern is relative to that type of assault based on what just happened in Canada.""
And:
"A 29-year-old bystander who was struck by a bullet in the lower back was also taken to a hospital. Her condition was not known."
Attachment 51195 I found this jack ass while doing some searching on face book. Can't get a close enough look at his ID, but they are everywhere. Just so happens that this guy is being public about his views by his cover pic. Stay alert
These attacks seem to be increasing, or media is just paying attention. Either way, I don't think they'll suddenly stop either and that being the case, time to arm up and start carrying. If unable to carry a firearm due to the work area in my case, or laws of the land in NY'ers case, what's left to do? Curiously, haven't heard a peep from the mosques or muslim leaders...
The US is just too PC to anything about this.
Anyone see the speech the Canadian PM gave? I caught a bit of it and basically he was saying that the problem is that these people are coming to Canada with no intention of ever becoming Canadians. He said the country needs to do more to increase Canadian nationalism. Basically, he said people that live there better well intend to become Canadians. I thought it was pretty good. They also had no problem immediately coming out and saying it was a Muslim terrorist.
I never thought I'd say this but Canadian leadership is doing a much better job with this than the US.
There is no majority, minority, good Muslim, moderate Muslim, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin13
There are the Muslims who want to cut your head off... and there are the Muslims who want other Muslims to cut your head off.
That's it.
Concealed is concealed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aardvark
That is a double-edged sword and we're lucky that after the Nisei were imprisoned during WWII other Americans weren't put in camps after WWII.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I don't want internment camps, we'll have to deal with the bad actors as they expose themselves. How do we deal with an Imam that just won't shut up about jihad, we can't deport him unless his visa is expired, if he is a citizen we cannot prevent him from preaching.
The key is education and promoting the freedoms laid out in The Constitution vs the enslavement of Islam. We need to take the schools back and start teaching The Constitution and why this country was formed.
Preaching (or funding, engaging in, encouraging, or supporting in any way) jihad should be considered renouncing your citizenship and declaring war against the US. At that point you should be considered, at the very least, a target of opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
The dude in Canada tried to leave the country to join the terrorists. They wouldn't let him on a plane.
Rather than keeping known or wanabe Muslim terrorists on our soil, why not let them go? Heck, buy them a ticket. Fill a plane with em. Then when the jihad express is filled with wannabes and is over the Atlantic, perhaps it will end up like a Malaysian airlines flight...
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I believe he was being sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
No, because then we could intern every Democrat for voting against the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantar18c
Whatever action applies to a single group will be applied to all groups.
... and the "radical" label is the correct one. I think the mass media has taken to calling them "fundamentalist" as part of an effort to subtly tarnish fundamentalist Christians. It's the same tactic where the Left Wing media calls all tyrannies "right wing" despite their Socialist or Communist constructs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantar18c
So no, you didn't fix it for him, you made it wrong. These are radicals in every sense of the word. They want to overthrow existing governmental, social, and cultural institutions and replace them with their own. That's radical.
This is no different that what the Obama administration is doing right now, overthrowing the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Islam has always been a belligerent ideology that didn't live peacefully with its neighbors. The main reason we're seeing them here now is that technology has allowed them to move here easier. 100 years ago they had to take a boat that took weeks to get here and once they got here there wasn't a PC culture that embraced them as they are, instead there was a melting pot that required them to assimilate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danimal
As for the notion that anything we do against these people just encourages more recruiting and/or fans the flames, that is a tremendously arrogant position. To believe that these people have no motivations of their own and are only savages reacting to our hubris is just foolishness. It doesn't matter what we do they want us dead ... and they always have.
Islam is a supremacist ideology. The desire to kill all unbelievers and dominate the earth is hard wired into the ideology. It has always been that way and the reason we're seeing them go on the offensive now is that they are finally in a position to project their power (they did this before in the 1500s and 1600s and western civilization beat them back ... they've finally recovered enough to recommence their belligerence).
Oh and Islam hasn't been around for "thousands of years" ... its only about 1400 years old.
I agree that leftists calling them "fundamentalist" is indeed an effort to tarnish "fundamentalist" Christians (just as the term "Neo-Conervative" is meant to subtuly link conservatives and neo-nazis ... Progressives play games with language).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
However calling violent Islamists "fundamentalist" instead of "radical" is actually a more accurate description.
A "radical" is one that takes an existing ideology and twists it into something else (often to justify violence). A "fundamentalist" is one that takes an existing ideology very seriously and literally. THIS is what violent Islamists are doing. Actually in the context of Islam, being peaceful and getting along with non Muslims when you're in a position of power is actually a "radical" idea.
Have i missed anything ?
folks tend to underestimate the depth of the islamist movement in the USA and just how deep the root of the problem goes with those people and their theocracy.
http://youtu.be/AiuUiYtI5kA
Yep. Anyone who has taken even a single class in political science and isn't a dedicated anti-Western/anti-American/Marxist would recognize that Obama is a radical and filled his administration with radicals.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Where I come from, 1.4 > 1 and therefore qualifies for the plural form. I agree the left wing apologists are distorting things to try to put Islam on par with (or superior to) Christianity but they are grammatically correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. These guys fit all the traditional poli sci definitions of radicals. Fundamentalism doesn't imply violent action the way radicalism does despite the supremacist roots. I don't have an issue with the fundamentalist Muslims who believe in conversion by setting an example of leading a "pure" life. To some extent, I admire the ones who are unwilling to compromise with certain elements of the West's moral decay but I have a problem with the ones who are trying to actively change society and culture through imposition of THEIR beliefs above our laws, moreso the ones who try to do it through violent actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
Yeah, right, biyotch. Problem this dickhead doesn't understand is that attempting guerrilla warfare frees up those of us who are (no longer) in uniform to do the same. Sorry, no longer uniformed, no longer subject to the Law of Armed Conflict --- oh, and I'm better armed now than I ever was in uniform.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zale_Thompson
There are three things I like about Chicago: Chicago pizza, Chicago dogs, and the Chicago way:
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They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way!
Islam has been at constant war with the west for the last 1400 years or so. There is no peaceful or moderate or radical part of it, that is simply propaganda to keep the west from rising up and crushing them. Until they are crushed, they will keep coming, it is what and who they are, there is no negotiating this to stop it. Because the west has been weak they are feeling strong again and are now taking the fight to us. It is the politics and money that is making them stronger and us weaker. We are being sold out by a corrupt government for short sighted personal gain and WE need to make a change. The problem is a dumbed down populace that will willingly hold on to their ignorance and rely on someone else to face the problems for them.
We need to stand up on our hind legs and do all we can to win this. It is coming to a town or city near you. Stay alert, be aware, put them down like the vermin that they are. I will stand with those that fight and stand against the cowardice of the PC propagandists that would subdue our freedoms in the name of peaceful relations and coexistence. There will be no coexistence, Islam will see to that. Submit or die. I will not submit and I will spit on anyone that does.
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Radical in relation to the traditional core values of America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
That's the kind of crap that the libs use. You know damn well that saying "thousands" generally implies many thousands... not just a hair over a thousand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
The Muslims who truly believe in spreading their religion peacefully, aren't truly Muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Radical is taking bits and pieces of the religion and ignoring the others... like Timothy McVeigh.
Fundamental is taking the full text, all of the core values of your religion, and not varying from that.
Like I said before, the Muslims that don't want to blow you up... they just want other Muslims to blow you up.
So you wouldn't take a stand against a conventional military invading force like, say, China? They have to be using guerrilla tactics for you to join in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
For those that believe not all muslims are against non-muslims, or think "oh, there are some muslims out there who aren't into killing the non-believers," I offer this correlation: Remember, there are some Christians who don't believe Jesus is the son of God. One's personal interpretation of their religion may be one thing, but the overall picture is quite different. Mohammad said it several times: kill the non-believer.
Some examples:
Quran 2:191-193: "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone." -To mean that you must kill anyone and everyone who does not worship Allah, until only Allah is worshiped.
Quran 4:89: "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." -Kill the non-believers and accept no help or friendship from them.
Quran 8:12: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." -Pretty self-explanatory.
Quran 9:29: "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." -Kill the non-believer until they submit to the rule of Islam. Either die, convert, or submit.
If you can interpret any of that to not mean kill those who do not worship Allah, you are a complete moron. That is from their holy book. Find me anything in the Torah or Bible that says Jews/Christians come together and cut off the heads of non-Jews/Christians... You can't, because it doesn't exist. There are tales of God striking down the sinners, but after the birth and death of Christ, (with exception to Revelations) there is nothing about those who sin being destroyed. You need look no further than the Muslim world. When Islamists murder innocent people, or behead them, where is the outcry from the Muslim populace saying "This is simply not our way, we do not support these traitors to our cause"? You may hear one or two say that, but the majority remains silent. The video I posted before of Ben Shapiro explaining the majority of Muslim belief explains that a very large majority of Muslims would support a world-wide Sharia system. Calling Islam a religion, when it encompasses every aspect of life and governance makes it much more than just a religion. It simply does not fit with America's ideals of Church-State separation as in Sharia law the non-believer must pay a tax of "submission" for not believing. Simple as that.
1. I highly suggest you go back and read the quote from the idiot Thompson. Understand the context of what I was responding to.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantar18c
2. I have been taking a stand for decades and will continue to do so. Nowhere in my response to dickhead did I say I would stand down against a conventional invading force.
Reading comprehension is your friend.
One of the challenges of being an American is trying to figure out how to curtail things like Islam, Nazism, and Communism without infringing on the rights of those who choose to participate in those things. We've done a good job of curtailing Nazism, we need to do a better job on Islam and Communism. Communism is going to be especially difficult because it is so entrenched in the federal education system.
The only opportunity for direct, physical action is when some jihadi or James Holmes wanna-be initiates an event that requires physical action on the part of the good guys (most of us) to stop it.
Education is the key, it is how these ideologies got started and spread, it is the way that we'll slow down and stop the spread of these evil ideologies.
So-called "peaceful Muslims" are at best IRRELEVANT
http://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s