Didn't see it posted any where here yet, M855/ss109 is going to be reclassified by the batf as armor piercing. They killed the 5.45 and now m855. Get it while you can and stack it deep.
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Didn't see it posted any where here yet, M855/ss109 is going to be reclassified by the batf as armor piercing. They killed the 5.45 and now m855. Get it while you can and stack it deep.
Source?
There is a big thread on arfcom about what is going on with links to the batf.
That feel when no m995.
Just another reasonable and common sense gun-safety measure brought to you by your socialist president.
Another step on the path...
Classic incrementalism.
Another example of why the pro-2A communist is a mythical creature.
Perfect, more government overreach.
More BS,.more marching orders from the idiots, so sick and tired of these stupid laws that are senseless.
Expect to see all M855 Out Of Stock soon.
When was the last crime committed by anyone using M855?
Bovine scat. Make sure to call Mr. Gardner, we need to stop this shit.
Looks like it's already gone online.
From what I understand it is already a done deal just time till it goes in to effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bittenger
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Ya and thats bullshit.
Yeah, quick check of my usual online purchase sites yield no 62 gr green tip in stock. Only 3 sites, but still frustrating.
Found some at ammunitiondepot and brownells.... well see if they ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
As much as I hate to I just ordered from CTD because they had some Lake City bulk
I almost ordered a bunch last night when I read the original thread and people were counting down stock online. But then I checked the price I ordered my last box of IMI M855 at, compared to the prices it's at now, and decided I really didn't need any that much. I don't shoot M855 that often. But this still stinks.
I have wondered how long before BO did this. The importation of Russian 5.45x39 military ammo was stopped because of the armor piercing bullet and manufacture of AK pistols to shoot it. So I imagine they decided since we have all of these AR pistols now they would use the same premise to halt civilian access to M855. And all of this is done without congressional approval, so may not help to call Cory, but still worth a try.
m855 is the new .22
I'm tempted to order some- I have some on hand, and compared to other calibers, m855 isn't that effective anyway.
LOL, exactly what I'm hoping. Maybe someone will stop stockpiling .22 and switch to m855 for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
The test case for this was the soviet ammo ban from a year ago. They twisted the laws into a pretzel and set a precedence to use the armor piercing laws as a means to ban any bullet they wanted. Next up the most popular bullet in America. Now... combine this with the current work to ban lead for all bullets and what is left to use for bullets? Now they are using precedent to ban anything and everything. You can chamber a 50 Cal round into a rifle. If you chop off the rifle butt stock of every rifle ever made.... it is now by definition a pistol. So trying to define rounds meant for either is useless and lawless. But if the end goal is to ban anything and everything....well they have their effective means
If lead is to be banned (EPA garbage reasons) and bullets can not use any of these following materials in pure or combination alloy form - " one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium". Please tell me what material has the ability to hold form and enough mass which can be used? Because that basically covers all things on the periodic table and their combining alloys which are suitable for use as bullets.
Natchezss.com still has bulk quantities in stock in case anyone is looking. 40-45 cents a round.
I was ordering a case of 9mm. Looks like prices/stock haven't changed yet.
Those that do still have it online seems the price is going up. M193 prices haven't moved.
If you want it for about $376/1000, here you go; Federal 5.56 62 Grain Green Tip 12,500 rounds
...but there's a quantity of 5 limit.
I was also able to find some Prvi Partizan at www.ammosupplywarehouse.com for $0.38/rd shipped
I guess we'll never get to see the new 855A1 projectiles on the market. They seemed like they could be amusing as a sabot load for 308.
I want to beat CTD, so,
Up for sale is two(2) .30 ammo cans (420 rounds per can, on stripper clips) of 62 gr. steel core penetrator tip 5.56X45 Federal Lake City.
Must be FTF in Aurora, buyer must provide a signed & notorized affidavit & color copy of photo ID that they are over 21 years of age, are not a convicted felon and able possess ammunition persuant to all federal and state regulations.
For the low low price of $525 per can. Firm. (See my sig. line for a definition of firm !)
EDIT: Both cans SPF.
MidwayUSA and Cheaperthandirt had it in stock a couple of days ago for $169.99 for the 420 round cans. MidwayUSA now showing out of stock, back order OK for $169.99. Last night the Walmart in Ft. Collins had two cans for $179.99.
actually, the way the law works it applies to loaded ammo... you can buy all the AP projectiles you want, as long as someone puts them up for sale (price will certainly go up).Quote:
Originally Posted by zimagold
It's even legal to assemble them into ammo... just not legal to sell "AP ammo" to lowly civilians- you have to roll your own.
wouldn't that be moot... because then you are a manufacturer of banned items and just as guilty under some other twisted interpretation.
keep reachin, batf. Can't wait.
So, would the mere possession of penetrator bullets (projectiles) and other reloading componants be considered "Constructive Intent" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
Should we start flooding the ATF with letters for clarification ?
it worked well with the Sig-Brace, I suspect it'd do wonders for most any other product Bloomberg opposes. If only he'd had his minions write continuous letters to the FDA about large soda's, maybe those could have been banned at a national level...Quote:
Originally Posted by SideShow Bob
Next maybe they'll deem M193 bad as it "goes too fast".
Thanks again for Obama, nynco.
Business must be slow convincing Democrats to leave their hands off of our freedom.
He's not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
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Originally Posted by Gman
I was one of the door knockers who volunteered many days for the recall Houdak campaign.... I did something to fight it and I no longer support Obama.
You're only a manufacturer if you are building a product FOR SALE. That's where the alphabet gang gets their jurisdiction in this case- commerce clause. If you are assembling them for your own use, then you're not "manufacturing" (until they re-define that term, too).Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
Glad I stocked up on M855 last year.
That is all.