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Given what has been going on vis-a-vis the nuke negotiations between the US and Iran, I am thinking more about the possibility of nuclear proliferation than in past years. My questions are if this is getting your attention as well, and does this change anything in your preparedness plan?
Not just a plan to avoid or deal with the effects of one or more nuke detonations, but also EMP, dirty bomb, or other threats.
I added two geiger counters and potassium iodide to the bunker.
They're always there but right now economic collapse is higher on my list
I tend to focus more on scenarios like natural disaster, prolonged power outages and (like Wulf wrote) economic problems. I really should start to think about chemical spill hazards since I live not too far from railroad tracks.
This, 18T in debt and growing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wulf202
ETA - The push into stawks and other financial instruments. The push away from savings and smart spending. The treatment of debt as as asset, the acceptance of sloth via EBT cards and government assistance.
The chances of a nuclear attack are very slim, the nations considering attacking us with nuclear weapons have to take into consideration their own annihilation.
I think nukes are the thing I'm least worried about. The threat seems over blown to me.
Voluntary evac or some bracelets are your options.Quote:
Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
At very least get a list of the important stuff together and keep it on a clipboard
Any iodine will work. Betedine is far more universal than the thyroid pills.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
When we have an islamist sympathizer in office, a Corrupt / Racially biased DOJ, dishonest IRS, democratic leaders who "weep" during Israeli PM's speech. Nuclear button pushing is not even on my radar.
Kazoo nails it. It's like people think ISIS can deliver a nuke to Ft. Collins.
Now, Obama can do it, that concerns me.
OH, and where the heck did you find not one, but two Geiger counters???
Close out sale at Honest Hamid's, east of 257 . He put the HO in Honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha2
I believe I must be prepared for some level of societal collapse as a result of a disaster. It does not mater the cause, a societal collapse will come as a result of most natural or man caused disasters. It's only a mater of degree and how wide spread the mayhem. It's becomes a situation of identifying what additional items are needed and adding those items into your preps to accommodate these possible variations.
Readily available on Amazon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha2
I grew up among the schoolkids that had the mushroom cloud always hanging over us. I don't discount nuclear war, but I find more credible threats to be economic, weather, or civil unrest.
There's so much we need to do yet for prepping.
I grew up 35 miles north of the Zero milestone in Washington D.C. We always assumed that nuclear war meant an awesome but extremely brief tan. No worries [Flower]
Being trained is knowing what you need and knowing what you want, and being able to tell the difference.
Being prepared is knowing how to get what you need before it is needed.
Be safe.
I use to work with an old guy who was a machinist in the navy and was on the ship that did the nuke testing in the pacific before they dropped the first bomb.
He would tell stories about everyone just grabbing the rail of the ship to hold on during the high winds produced by the explosions.
He was awoken the night before the first bomb drop ( he didn't realize it at the time) by a bunch of people to make an unknown part. A few hours later the bomb drop took place and he then realized what the mystery last minute part was for.
He was in his 70's when I knew him and in great shape. He always joked about taking multiple nuke explosions with only shades for protective gear and working years with asbestos without any health issues.
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-agree completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
When India/Pakistan/N. Korea/Etc. first got the bomb, there was much chatter and gnashing of teeth about how it was the end of the world (much akin to how liberals think blood will run in the streets if national concealed carry is adopted). And yet, nobody has nuked anyone in a very long time (that we conclusively know of). Iran seems far more stable than N. Korea so I really don't think Tehran getting the bomb, which is a when, not if scenario, is going to be that big of a deal.
It all makes for great political theatre but when a person analyzes which countries have actually nuked people, the U.S. isn't in any position to dictate who should be allowed to have it and who should not. I don't have any qualms with how it was used on Japan but let's not somehow suggest we are righteous and nobody else would know right from wrong with a nuclear device.
I worry about fire on the windy days we have or my bald tires on snow days, -a nuclear event isn't even on my radar.
Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ition_Munition
This little guy was developed in the 1950's in the US with 1950's technology. The technical know how is floating out there all over the place. The material is out there all over the place. (Mostly thanks to the Reds, but also from some other folks, US, France, India, etc) How many nation-states, organizations, backyard workshops all have access to at minimum, the equivalent of US Gov 1950's style tech and equipment? (Hell, some of our membership have the equivalent in their own workshops.... Kazoo!!!) Let alone what are the powers that be capable of creating using more modern tech?A small yield device may not destroy a whole lot, or even make very many people sick. But it would result in a large area denial situation. How many blocks of a major city would be cordoned off permanently as a result of the contamination? Also what would be the ramifications of the panic one of these little guys would create? Public panic, legislative panic (The Patriot Act would seem like nothing compared to what they would draft after a stateside incident) Make no mistake my friends, the world continues to be a scary place.
Although the "Great Uniter" has done great strides in letting everyone know that America is sorry and we want to make up with everybody. With the jobs situation now fixed, healthcare now fixed, the economy now fixed etc, etc, it won't be long now until everyone beats their swords into plowshares and we all hold hands singing Kumbaya. Forget what I said, it's all good.
I'm going to go along with "thvigil11" If I was Iran, I would build a bunch of small backpack size nuclear weapons. Just set them off next to nuclear power plants. If you set a SADM off at the White House fence during a cabinet meeting, well you get my drift. Or just attack a nuclear power plant. Instead of taking two skyscrapers with two airliners, hell set off 20 man portable nuclear weapons. No fancy stealth bombers of missiles. You just need a backpack.
Geiger counters? eBay....what kind? Gamma Scout
Another article on the financial calamity that is approaching.
http://straightlinelogic.com/2015/03...y-robert-gore/
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According to Bloomberg, $1.9 trillion worth of Euro-area bonds are trading at negative yields (“Euro-Area Negative-Yield Bond Universe Expands to $1.9 Trillion,” bloomberg.com). Purchasers of negative-yield bonds receive less money that what they put up; they are paying the issuer for the privilege of lending to it. Like some of the more bizarre aspects of quantum physics, negative interest rates will probably lead to not intuitively obvious, perhaps mind-bending, economic effects. On an easier to grasp level, they also represent yet another monstrous undermining of the ethical foundation of capitalism, and may come to symbolize the inflection point of Europe’s descent into an unrecognizable, dystopian hell of its own making.
+1 My reading tells me Europe and the EU are in for some really rough times. Of course, I can't say I wouldn't be happy to see the EU socialist experiment fail...
Living rather close to Colorado Springs and in a major city one of my plains is if things look like a nuclear threat might come is to get me and my family away from mass population Before one is likely to hit. While my car will still run, while I can still communicate with cell phones.
EMP Bomb- https://youtu.be/vn6OVLK0MBI
I think governments always downplay realistic threats from other governments to keep the sheep calm. China, Russia, North Korea ... ? The same people that feed people AKs could set them up with a bomb if they wanted. Wars and bad things happen in bad economic times.