Be a lazy medic

I read threads in this section and I understand we all want sexy gear but if you practice the basics, it will pay dividends in the future.

Here is a list of stuff for your prep plan:

Start taking BP and lung/heart sounds on your patients/family/bug out group. You need to determine what normal is before SHTF..... If you don't know what normal is, it's gonna be hard as f to determine what's wrong when hell breaks lose.

Practice the the basics to identify problems before they rapidly get out of control...(be a lazy medic)

It sounds dumb to tell people to drink water but it's easier to have them stay hydrated, then end up a patient. Bleeders, environmental or other med/trauma only gets worse with dehydration.
Same goes with OTC meds... If the have allergies or a cold, give them pills and don't wait until they feel like shit to play medic. Most stuff doesn't get better with time.


I will try and post some more basics/tips when I have time. Overall, playing medic isn't sexy but preventative medicine will save you a lot of headache and sleep if you stay on top of the situation.

Always look forward to solid medical stuff. Medical is the most difficult thing to tackle in my opinion. You can take class after class, but it is difficult to actually practice anything.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Always look forward to solid medical stuff. Medical is the most difficult thing to tackle in my opinion. You can take class after class, but it is difficult to actually practice anything.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Always look forward to solid medical stuff. Medical is the most difficult thing to tackle in my opinion. You can take class after class, but it is difficult to actually practice anything.

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Practice is easy... you can create your own victims. The legality is what you're going to struggle with..

My wife is an LPN. I should have her train me on the basics too, just in case.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

My wife is an LPN. I should have her train me on the basics too, just in case.

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COLONICS FOR EVERYONE!

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COLONICS FOR EVERYONE!

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Want to come over for dinner? We need a test subject, err, I mean more dinner guests.

That's why its nice to have 3 doctors in our group.

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Originally Posted by tactical_2012

That's why its nice to have 3 doctors in our group.

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Great start but try and have them provide you with some training. You would be surprised but unless they are orthopedic surgens, ER docs or work in a trauma 1 they might need some refresher too. Working around Dr,PA and paramedics I can tell you everyone has their skill set and the way they "do it". A group that has a Dr.( not a dermatologist) PA, and EMT might be the idea combo as they can provide check and balances.

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Originally Posted by Dave_L

My wife is an LPN. I should have her train me on the basics too, just in case.

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Great idea, as who would treat her if anything happened?

Btw I am no pro but these are a few lessons I am learning while being around healthcare professionals.

Not to derail this too much, but I would love to see some sort of training on basic medical issues. Mick Boy and I were talking a while back and came to the conclusion that while we have some idea what to do for GSW's or heavy trauma (admittedly he much more than me) we are lost on the basics like a sick kid. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

When you say basic, how basic? First Aid, Advanced First Aid, Emergency Medical Responder, EMT?

First Aid is about 8 hours, Advanced First Aid is about 20 hours, EMR is 48 hours. If there is interest, I can put some dates up for first aid and advanced first aid (three days).

To tie this into the OP would you guys like to see a skills lab? It is difficult to teach during a lab but those who have had the skills a lost them can practice and review skills. Finding a pulse, taking a BP, TQ application, wound packing, patient assessment, transfer of care to EMS, review of current meds (indications, contra indications), splinting, basic wound care, etc. Not an all day thing, come in, practice the skills you want at your own pace with help as needed.

In for the skills lab

Tag


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Originally Posted by cmailliard

When you say basic, how basic? First Aid, Advanced First Aid, Emergency Medical Responder, EMT?

First Aid is about 8 hours, Advanced First Aid is about 20 hours, EMR is 48 hours. If there is interest, I can put some dates up for first aid and advanced first aid (three days).

To tie this into the OP would you guys like to see a skills lab? It is difficult to teach during a lab but those who have had the skills a lost them can practice and review skills. Finding a pulse, taking a BP, TQ application, wound packing, patient assessment, transfer of care to EMS, review of current meds (indications, contra indications), splinting, basic wound care, etc. Not an all day thing, come in, practice the skills you want at your own pace with help as needed.

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perhaps start a thread over here to gauge interest. Which the spouse & i are interested. As usual, depending on the date.
https://www.ar-15.co/forums/94-Training

Tagging as well. Would be interested in a class

Tag. I need to get some refresher classes. Heck I'd still be giving someone mouth-to-mouth if I had to perform CPR, and I know that's no longer taught.

What's a good age for a kid to learn CPR for the first time? I'd guess by 10-11, they'd be pretty solid, right?

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Tag. I need to get some refresher classes. Heck I'd still be giving someone mouth-to-mouth if I had to perform CPR, and I know that's no longer taught.

What's a good age for a kid to learn CPR for the first time? I'd guess by 10-11, they'd be pretty solid, right?

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All of this stuff can be done at home. The only reason I posted this is bc durning a class we were told our patients would have their trachea pushed to the side if they are suffering from tension pneumothorax. That is a true statement, BUT I've now learned, your patient is on the downslope and you will have to work a lot harder at this point...... So if I was a "lazy medic" and took lung sounds and evaluated your patient before he presents with sever signs of distress, you might catch it early and decompress your patient and keep them comfortable and out of shock.
Turniquets are the same way.... Practice putting them on one and two handed. I've haven't searched YouTube for good instructional videos but I bet they are out there. PSA: no need to cut off your circulation or practice while you are drunk or sleepy.



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Originally Posted by RonMexico

All of this stuff can be done at home. The only reason I posted this is bc durning a class we were told our patients would have their trachea pushed to the side if they are suffering from tension pneumothorax. That is a true statement, BUT I've now learned, your patient is on the downslope and you will have to work a lot harder at this point...... So if I was a "lazy medic" and took lung sounds and evaluated your patient before he presents with sever signs of distress, you might catch it early and decompress your patient and keep them comfortable and out of shock.
Turniquets are the same way.... Practice putting them on one and two handed. I've haven't searched YouTube for good instructional videos but I bet they are out there. PSA: no need to cut off your circulation or practice while you are drunk or sleepy.



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Originally Posted by RonMexico

All of this stuff can be done at home. The only reason I posted this is bc durning a class we were told our patients would have their trachea pushed to the side if they are suffering from tension pneumothorax. That is a true statement, BUT I've now learned, your patient is on the downslope and you will have to work a lot harder at this point...... So if I was a "lazy medic" and took lung sounds and evaluated your patient before he presents with sever signs of distress, you might catch it early and decompress your patient and keep them comfortable and out of shock.
Turniquets are the same way.... Practice putting them on one and two handed. I've haven't searched YouTube for good instructional videos but I bet they are out there. PSA: no need to cut off your circulation or practice while you are drunk or sleepy.



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When you get those circular tattoos?

In the vein of being lazy, I'm a big fan of not re-inventing the wheel so I'm always on the lookout for good cheat sheets to make life a little easier. I came across this today so I figured I'd throw it up.

As always, big boy rules apply. Only do what both your conscience and skill-set can support.

http://prolongedfieldcare.org/2015/0...re-capable-of/

Tip for the day:

Add a blanket to your first aid kit. Cheap, easy and it can save your patient's life. Before this week I never carried a blanket in my kit but now I understand the importance of having a simple wool blanket or space blanket(only good if your patient is already warm or able to shiver) and it can help you save their life by as much as 25%.

Wool blanket, some rope, and some 6" lengths of 1" wooden dowel rods. Cheap and handy when needed. Stuff that never expires or goes bad.

Thanks for the tip! I hope you make this a regular contribution, even if it is only weekly.

Be safe.

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

In the vein of being lazy, I'm a big fan of not re-inventing the wheel so I'm always on the lookout for good cheat sheets to make life a little easier. I came across this today so I figured I'd throw it up.

As always, big boy rules apply. Only do what both your conscience and skill-set can support.

http://prolongedfieldcare.org/2015/0...re-capable-of/

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THANK YOU

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

Tip for the day:

Add a blanket to your first aid kit. Cheap, easy and it can save your patient's life. Before this week I never carried a blanket in my kit but now I understand the importance of having a simple wool blanket or space blanket(only good if your patient is already warm or able to shiver) and it can help you save their life by as much as 25%.

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What is the context in which you came across this situation?

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THANK YOU
What is the context in which you came across this situation?

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Trust me.... But to make it official I found a wiki [Coffee]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_triad_of_death

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Originally Posted by Brian

Tag. I need to get some refresher classes. Heck I'd still be giving someone mouth-to-mouth if I had to perform CPR, and I know that's no longer taught.

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Not true. Breaths are still taught, including mouth to mouth breathing. I am an American Heart Association instructor, and was previously a Red Cross instructor. Breaths have never been eliminated from certification courses.

While it is true that *most* adults will have a small oxygen reserve after cardiac arrest, breaths become very important after the first few minutes once the circulating reserve is gone.

Most pediatric victims will not sustain a heart problem leading to cardiac arrest, but will have a airway or breathing problem. The latest studies show that compression only CPR isn't as effective on infants and children for that reason.

Compression only CPR is ONLY appropriate is the lay rescuer is untrained in CPR, or is unwilling to provide breaths. Better than nothing. Other than that, breaths should be provided.

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What's a good age for a kid to learn CPR for the first time? I'd guess by 10-11, they'd be pretty solid, right?

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I ask for participants in my classes to be around 12 at a minimum. For just learning very basic stuff (call 911, compressions) a child can learn much younger. There of course is the fact that a smaller child will likely not be very effective on someone significantly larger.

tag for more info on cmalliards classes.