State senator now confirmed among the dead.
Clementa C. Pinckney (D)
Church was a Gun Free Zone.
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State senator now confirmed among the dead.
Clementa C. Pinckney (D)
Church was a Gun Free Zone.
Link to Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/18...-at-sc-church/
Race relation's such as they are... It was only a matter of time.
That' s total BS. Race relations have been a lot worse in this countries past, especially in that area. Shooting up a church ( or anything for that matter ) is never excusable. Prayers to the victims families.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big John
Didn't take long to announce this one was a "hate crime".
Do you think it'll matter after committing mass murder, including a public official, in a church? I think being branded a hate crime is the least of his worries. Hopefully the shooter saved everyone some time and took care of it himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
To say that I was disappointed to hear this news would be a grave understatement.
I'm hoping for a gutshot then escape for a few days or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by RMAC757
Also the pastor of said church.Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
It's not excusable or justified by any stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by RMAC757
These kinds of crimes are why so many fear the silent and steady repeal of equal protection. There is a sense there is no justice so people act on their own and it becomes eye-for-an-eye. That is the stuff of third world countries.
Race relations are at the lowest point in my lifetime (I am a hair under 40). I have never seen it this bad nor have I heard people say the things I've heard in real life (not just the internet). The Leftist take-over of media isn't helping when everything is a race issue and it's in your face 24/7.
The Black Community will read this as nine blacks being lynched by a white. The Dems/media will play into that. It is a demonstration that white supremacy is a very real threat--and they will work gun control into this because they have been struggling to make gun control a race issue to advance it. The 15 blacks murdered in Chicago last weekend will be ignored. The 40+ murdered in Baltimore's bloodiest month since 1972 will be ignored. There will be little perspective given and people will in turn act on this.
Just in time for Obama to push forward more gun control.....
Prayers to the victims and families.
Authorities know who did it now.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...an-storm-roof/
The FBI has identified the shooting suspect who allegedly opened fire on an African American church in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday night, killing 9 people.
The alleged shooter is Dylann Storm Roof, a 21-year-old white male from the Columbia area, according to local news station WISTV. A manhunt is still underway to find him.
Roof is out on bond for charges related to drugs and trespassing, according to an editor for The Post and Courier. A mug shot for his trespassing arrest can be viewed here.
The alleged shooter reportedly said, “I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go,” according to a witness interviewed by NBC News.
UPDATE JUN 18, 2015 10:29 AM
Reuters reports that the uncle of the 21-year-old suspect was given a gun for his birthday, a .45-caliber pistol. The uncle, Carson Cowles, came forward when he recognized the photo police distributed and described his nephew as "quiet and soft-spoken."
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Originally Posted by Bitter Clinger
Well that oughta fan the flames.....
Not the point. In my opinion it was immediately denounced as a "hate crime" because of the race of the criminal/victims. It seems it takes days or weeks to announce an obvious act of terror as that even though the perpetrator was yelling "Allah ackbar", and rarely do crimes committed by blacks against whites get labeled as hate crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RMAC757
Yes, racism is alive and well. And, yes, in my opinion, it is fueled by the leftist mass media and others on the left. It's also fueled by so-called black leaders, like Sharpton, Jackson and Obama. I believe racism by blacks towards white is far more prevalent these days than the other way around. Just my opinion from what I see in the "news".
I also agree with Skip. The recent mass killings (even though they don't meet the strict definition) in Chicago, Baltimore and other inner city areas of the country of blacks, by blacks, will largely be ignored because it doesn't fit the leftist racism agenda.
Prayers for all the victims. Hopefully Dylann saves us all some time and takes himself out.
RIP and prayers to the family. Aside the why and how, this is reason #3743 why carry.. Fun free zone or not, prohibited signs or not
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It was about time for another panic. :( The script to this one sounds...scripted.
RIP to all those killed.
Prepper your anguses. Time to ban the high capacity plastic glock ak47 ghostguns.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
Sucks that this loon continues to breath. Prayers for the victims and families.
Yes, and years in the case of Ft. Hood massacreQuote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I don't know, you really think this will cause another panic? I don't think it will, sandy hook set the new standard and the bar was set high for these crazies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
It is sad to hear of this news and prayers go out to the families, yet another senseless act of violence in a gun free zone
Maybe not for AR's and such but if the reports of him being given the gun as a present are true, that gives fuel for more gun control. That usually sparks some kind of panic, especially as we approach election year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai
Good point, kinda like the new law we have that requires a background check every time. Sounds like this may have been a gift from an uncle, I can see that coming back up nationally again now for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
Based on what little we know about the shooter, he would have passed a background check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai
It's good that he was caught alive. Now maybe, like Holmes, they can prove that he is Full Tilt Bozo and not typical of gun owners. I hope they find that other people knew he should not have access to a gun but did nothing.
Maybe we should not let anybody under age 30 named Dylan own a gun. I don't think his parents liked him very much from day one, naming your kid Storm Roof, really.
The Race issue is blowing up. The current admin is getting what they want.
If he thought that black men raping white WOMEN was a problem, wait until he gets to prison.
It said he was out on bond for drugs and trespassing? I don't know when those incidences took place in relation to when he obtained the gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
Is it premature to assume we'll never get a clear answer on if he was a prohibited person or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
There are several levels of criminal trespassing. Usually it's a misdemeanor and doesn't result in wearing orange.
I'm more worried about how this case is going to affect race relations than gun rights.
Also this jackass will also be used to paint anyone to the right of Noam Chomsky as a "Tea Party Racist".
The point our side needs to make is that churches in South Carolina are gun free zones by law.
He would certainly appear to be a racist...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtn.man
http://puu.sh/itznO/e025b30800.png
People who make everything about guns are assholes. That goes for people on both sides of the argument.
Reminds me of a Ron White routine about an inmate named ThunderDick! [LOL]Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
I'd suspect so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridge
Flags of Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia.
This whole black vs white/white vs black shit is out of fucking control. We have taken such a step back in race relations it is absurd. And it's going to get worse. Obama, sharpton and all the other race zelots have created a huge fucking mess. Also blame the media for instantly jumping on the race blame bullshit. I this instance instantly calling it a Hate Crime.
Obama just went "there" with gun violence. Here we go again.....
How about Obama taking responsibility for this sort of crap by fueling the racist fires with his rhetoric about all Travon, Ferguson, etc.... Nope, it's the guns man... Before he even knows anything about the facts, it's the "someone who had easy access to a gun" - or whatever he just said... Incredible - never miss an opportunity to further your party agenda. Why am I not surprised.
Any link to his speech? I'd like to read what he said.
I hope that this incident will allow it to finally be brought into the national spotlight that any time a gun free zone is created, it is like a magnet for deranged people to go to kill without fear of being killed. It should be shouted from the mountain top that who ever these people are that create these gun spree zones they must also be held accountable. I get emotional every time this is allowed to happen to people that are not able to lawfully protect themselves.
It needs to be law that if you want a gun free zone you MUST provide security because you are accountable for lives of the peoples inside. It's too easy for someone to hang a gun free zone sign up and walk away feeling good about themselves. It is just wrong when people get to create a situation that get people killed and these stupid people believe that if we had just one more of these gun spree zones it would have saved a life. How long before these stupid people realize that anybody hell bent on breaking the law and killing people are not going to read a f'ing sign and walk away.
I think the government should use some of our tax dollars to do an actual useful study and do one on mass shootings and there relationship to gun free zones. I know that shooting incidents are higher in these gun spree zones. I don't believe this whole situation would be a whole lot different if this guy had used a Katana in this gun free zone, people still did not have the means to protect themselves.
get ready for amping up the summer of rage