#20 Colorado
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Too bad they didn't say for other states. Here's where no insane, mentally unstable person DIDN'T GO ON RAMPAGE. Of course that never fits the AGENDA. I "think" their math may be off for CO, just slightly.
I was surprised how high DC was and how low Kansas was.
you need to find the arrows on the right and left side to go through the listQuote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
There is a picture of Zach Smith at the end. I knew that name was familiar.
What exactly do they mean by "registered firearm"?
What pisses me off even more is the Colorado quote. Here is a picture of the Firing Line in Aurora, Colorado, not far from where the Aurora Shooting took place.
In regards to "shootings" and other gun deaths. Like Ill. It's only the sensational shooting we get noticed for.Quote:
Originally Posted by StagLefty
What's this "registered firearm" stuff CBS is basing their statistics on? WTF registered what in Colorado?
This just proliferates the common nomenclature and expectation that guns are to be registered in a "civilized" society. [facepalm]
Main stream media propaganda is quoted a lot on this forum. Most of it is government approved and meant to mislead. Crowd control to Major Tom...
I just stopped recognizing the term since the news and non-gun owners have no idea really what that term means. I wish they would say legally owned firearms, or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
... and I wish they would just admit they don't know WTF they're talking about and are editing the "news" to push the viewpoints they want adopted ... but I'm not holding my breath on that ...Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
I am really diappointed that CO is ranked so low, so i am going to go buy a new gun to help our state become number one.
Buy 2 and call me in the Morning ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 02ducky
CO is a mixed bag ... I've often read that Teller County is one of the most heavily armed counties in the country (or the most licensed to carry or something like that).Quote:
Originally Posted by 02ducky
We've got parts of this state that make Texas (or at least the mythical version of Texas) look like San Francisco. And we've got parts of this state that make San Francisco look like west Texas. So it drags our average down.
Well I do realize there is a combination of a lot of dumbasses in the journalism field and an agenda being pushed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
I'm sure if the real numbers where known Texas would be a lot higher than #18.
http://ww.examiner.com/article/cbs-n...y-armed-states
I'm not 100% on this thought but I suspect that why DC shows up so high is because they have LEO Agencies with NFA items which show up on that 'registered database.'
Can someone check my logic on that?
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Originally Posted by muddywings
Let me get back to you.
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M0f...=0&w=260&h=198
I watch the news.....
They tell me that there are like 5 millions times more guns than people in the U.S.
This article doesn't seem to want to support that.
I don't believe there are only 60K guns in this state. Not for a second.
ATF says there are 2,039 FFLs in our state as of Aug 2015. 1,602 of those are 01 and 02. That would mean each dealer has sold only 40 guns on average for the life of their business. That's a weekly number for some dealers that have been open for decades.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/listing...sees-ffls-2015
Here's a piece on the BGC law failing to show 40% of guns bought without a background check...
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...-than-expected
311K/year. The number of those related to new guns (I don't know it) is the annual increase. Each check can be for multiple weapons as well.Quote:
In total, there were about 311,000 background checks done during the first year of the expansion in Colorado, meaning the 13,600 checks between private sellers made up about 4 percent of the state total.
Yup, not buying it.
I think there are a few local shops that might sell 60K between now and Christmas.
The claim that "40% of gun sales are done without a check" is hilarious. This is where that claim comes from:
" based on a single 1994 telephone survey on private gun ownership conducted by the Police Foundation and funded by the Justice Department. The survey asked the 251 participants who had acquired guns in the previous two years, “Was the person you acquired this gun from a licensed firearm dealer?” The answer choices were “yes,” “probably was/think so,” “probably not,” “no/definitely not,” “don’t know” and refuse to report."
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/03/gun...ground-checks/
It looks like the numbers are limited to "registered guns" then the only guns that are "registered" in Colorado are NFA items ... I could easily believe there are 60k NFA firearms in CO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
I also wonder how many guns are sold in private transactions without BGCs ... not here to advocate for such civil disobedience, but I do wonder how much it happens.
Back when we were free, all the time.
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Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I have actually had a couple people at times ask me to sell items without BGCs (not on the forum, on armslist). I refused to have that discussion and violate the law, but I bet the amount of people who will do this is relatively high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
I've never heard of anyone doing that... [ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Zundfolge
Wyoming at #1. Looking better by the day.
How many members does this site have? I would propose to you that the average member owns 10 guns. The registered thing is weird. They are using the terminology to mislead or tweak data for some reason.
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Why do you think I moved...
Cheaper rent, better paying job? While wyo has some perks. The downside is the wind and weather. Mostly the wind............................Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg8550
People keep talking about the wind here. It really isn't any worse than NoCo. And WY doesn't even crack the top ten of windiest states. Nebraska is no.1.
Also, according to AWEA (American Wind Energy Assoc.) Wyoming is 7th in wind energy resources. Colorado is 8th for most wind energy projects. Texas is 1st, Wyoming doesn't make it in the top ten.
All that aside, I'll put up with some wind in exchange for more of my money making it into my pocket.
The wind does suck.
Could you imagine the cow smell in Greeley if you didn't have the wind though?
This articles numbers are pure horse shit. I have seen recent estimates putting national gun ownership over 50%. If Colorado has 5,268,367 people and half of those are adults that's 2,634,183 and that would put 50% ownership at 1,317,091. And they claim 63,178 people own guns, that's only 5% of my rough estimate.
I know people that given the size of there collections could change the percentages of these numbers by themselves.
I have to suspect what there motives are for such a low number. Maybe they believe they can convince the anti's it is only a small number of gun owners that will be effected by confiscation.
I used to work about a block from the meat plant. That was brutal regardless of the wind. Working on the west side of town I don't notice at much anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
hate to derail here. But I feel like only a person in a windy state would have that kind of knowledge on windQuote:
Originally Posted by jmg8550
I just looked that all up. Figured I'd back up my claims with facts. People like to assume WY us too windy. I grew up in NoCo, moved to Cheyenne a few years ago. Not much difference in wind.