Got bored at work today and decided to check what the impact of a Dong Feng - 5 warhead would have if it was released on Bukley AFB.... I need to move!
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Got bored at work today and decided to check what the impact of a Dong Feng - 5 warhead would have if it was released on Bukley AFB.... I need to move!
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Id just need to head south for about 5-10 minutes.
But chances are you would be in the blast radius of the nuke hitting Peterson AFB.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
Yeah, I'm smack dab in the middle. Guess I should go for east, not south. LOL. Looks like things get safe around Kiowa.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthabagah
You guys should see the radius of the repost police, it's so broad it's measured in years!
No matter where I move to the space aliens find me, so why should I worry about DPRK or PRC? On a clear day I can see NORAD.
It looks like I'm just a few blocks outside of the center target circle. In the event of a nuke I'm thinking that may be the best place. You survivor types have fun without me.
Prevailing winds go to the East (read: radiation). I'd head west.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_L
O2
Watch out for the Donger!
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How many Dongs does he have?
I imagine he wouldn't throw one at Buckley until he hit every target of opportunity in the Pacific; LA, San Francisco, etc...
Eh, I don't trust Korean technology. Especially North Korean. The delivery device probably wouldn't carry the warhead as far as Hawaii. Much less the mainland.
The Cold War during the sixties were better for paranoia
Something people often forget about is geography. A small hill can protect a person or structure from many of the pressure, heat, and radiation effects.
I already have a mass grave dug for the neighbors...
Everybody has to die somehow, might as well go out with a bang.
Do any have nice daughters?Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
You really think the Norks have fuse that long?
First of all, the DF-3 is Chinese, not Korean. Second, North Korea's ability to test a nuke on their own soil has a very low success rate. I can't imagine their ability to successfully project a nuke to another hemisphere has much promise. If I had to make a guess, I would bet that IF the North Koreans could successfully put together and detonate a nuke on an ICBM, the yield of the warhead would most definitely be less than 50kt and they might be able to get it into the right State.
That is, If they even know where Buckley is...they seem to think that Colorado Springs is in Alabama.
My money is on that. Hopefully living up here in the hills offers some protectionQuote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
Got plenty of bottle caps and Nuka Cola- I'm set.....[Coffee]
Hell yeah. Shit drifts east (just like the smoke from my chimney and emissions from my Jeep [Flower]).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooskibar03
And super deadly. The fallout alone lasts a lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
The USA has spent so much money over this issue, we deserve to glow if our stuff won't work.
MoActually, it's harmless to all, except those with "repost repulsion syndrome". This only affects a small, sensitive, easily irritated segment of society that usually has a "holier-than-thou" attitude.[Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
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Originally Posted by GilpinGuy
Nice!
Aieeee, this brings back nightmares like I had in high school.
Those the ones where you're not wearing any pants during a nuclear strike? I hated those dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrey
I thought the Mt. St. Helens eruption disproved that theory, as the blast wave hugged the ground and decimated trees on the far side of the hills for miles around.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
A volcano is similar to a bomb in some ways, different in many others (primarily the heat "wave" and radiation)Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
Soil and rock will absorb some of the heat, blast, and radiation, while also deflecting much of it. This is why the altitude of the blast makes such a huge difference (and why we fuse most nukes to detonate in the air instead of on the ground). Hiroshima and Nagasaki both detonated at 1500+ft above the ground, but the devastation would have been considerably worse if both areas were not so mountainous. No, a 40ft tall rolling hill may not make much of a difference, but being North of Monument Pass in a scenario where Colorado Springs gets nuked would make a huge difference. I know Denver isn't exactly full of mountains, but even something as simple as being in your basement is a considerable improvement over being on the main floor of a house in terms of radiation, heat, and pressure exposure. It's probably safe to assume that just about any nukes used against Colorado targets (with the sole exception of Cheyenne Mtn) will be an airburst several thousand feet up, precisely because it maximizes the destructive effects of the weapon.
It really depends on distance here, blast waves are pretty powerful. The three things that protect against radiation are Time, Distance and Shielding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
Time - If we know the dose rate, using exposure limits we can know how long to safely stay in an area
- Working in the nuclear industry is 5 Rem/Year
- Mitigating an Incident is 10 Rem/Event
- Saving a Life is 25 Rem/Event
Distance - The further away you are the better you are (duh!) It is the greatest way to protect yourself
- Alpha Particles only travels a few inches to a foot or so - I demo this in my Hazmat/WMD classes with Uranium Ore (yeah, you can buy that on Amazon) and a detector
- Beta Particles can travel several yards
- Gamma, well it's kinda like the Energizer bunny
Shielding - What will stop these types of radiation
- Alpha - a piece of paper or your skin (you are contaminated so you better decontaminate yourself)
- Beta - Need a bit more, a hazmat suit will protect you
- Gamma - Lead or other dense material (lots of concrete)
Everyone thinks Alpha is not bad because it can stopped by a piece of paper and does not travel far. The problem with Alpha is, it is very ionizing, meaning it does a great deal of damage if you are exposed (it is in your body). Breathing it in is the most common way to become exposed. An N95 (P100 is better) will do real good job at filtering Alpha and Beta.
There is a nuclear reactor in the Denver Metro area, not many people know about it. Let's see if someone here knows where. I am sure there is at least one person.
It is used in a pretty cool way, it is about 6 feet in diameter and about 20 feet deep (at least the pool). It has about 25 fuel rods IIRC. When it is on it is the coolest color blue you can ever imagine.
On Nuclear Secrecy, read his blog, he has so much awesome information about radiation. Read about the Demon Core, pretty interesting stuff.
Here are some fun sites
Dose Calculator - Living in Colorado sucks
Dose Chart - Fun to look at and see how much radiation really is bad
Dose - It is worse than trying to figure out electricity, at least for me. This page does a decent job breaking it down
^And there you have it, folks. [not-worthy]
Got to see Cherenkov radiation at Los Alamos' Omega West reactor (now decommissioned). Being a nerd, almost the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. A light that casts no shadows on the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmailliard
O2
cmailliard - thanks for the details and websites.
Fort St Vrain, is Platteville part of the Denver Metro? The only other place I can think of is Rocky Flats.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmailliard
Fort St. Vrain is no longer a nuclear facility, it is now natural gas powered.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
Rocky Flats had a crap ton of Plutonium. In fact there was a substantial release (I think in the 80's) which sent a plume over Denver. It is what led to the FBI raiding the facility and shutting it down. No more radiation out there.
This reactor is in a Denver suburb and is used for research.
I didn't know they converted Vrain, I thought they just decommissioned it. I spent the last 30 minutes reading the websites you presented.
Yeah, pretty sure Xcel still operates it.Quote:
Originally Posted by roberth
I spent close to half a day reading the blog at Nuclear Secrecy when I first found it. Very cool stuff and awesome history.
I never knew the horse on the way to DIA was nuclear.
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There is a nuclear reactor in the Denver Metro area, not many people know about it. Let's see if someone here knows where. I am sure there is at least one person.
It is used in a pretty cool way, it is about 6 feet in diameter and about 20 feet deep (at least the pool). It has about 25 fuel rods IIRC. When it is on it is the coolest color blue you can ever imagine.
The Fed center?
St Vrain is still operated by Xcel.
NREL has done alot of research on effects of nuclear energy on the environment(usually from a leftist environmentalist perspective).
They get my vote for having reactor.
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