Trump lowering ak prices?

With Trump becoming President-elect, and him vowing to undo Obama executive orders, possibly including Executive Order 13662 (which banned the sale and importation of Russian made AK rifles). Could we be seeing a resurgence of less expensive AKs flooding the market, effectively driving down the higher price of AKs we've been seeing lately? I'm curious, because I am looking at AK rifles at the moment and am hesitant on pulling the trigger should the prices of AKs drop if I wait a little while. Your thoughts?

I think you're better off waiting a few months regardless. The bottom is about to fall out of the gun market.

I'm looking forward to plenty more inexpensive 7N6 spam cans hitting the market. I don't care whether it comes from Russia or Ukraine. 5.45 could become cheaper than .22lr and easier to find. [Flower]

Isn't 7n6 banned by the feds due to it being an "armor piercing" pistol round. Also, didnt some court, I'm not sure what level court, upheld its ban. Reversing sanctions is just one step to get 7n6 back.

I would buy that AK soon before all of the liberals buying guns these days depletes the market.

I think you guys are just trying to get my hopes up.

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Originally Posted by ray1970

I would buy that AK soon before all of the liberals buying guns these days depletes the market.

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Yes indeed. Interesting the run on guns, we haven't seen, from our side. Has suddenly picked up steam from those who DEMAND COMMON SENSE Gun laws.

I believe they would have a tough time using a firearm. Due to the fact, for them, everyone's a winner. Which doesn't pan out when it comes to self defense.

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Originally Posted by osok-308

With Trump becoming President-elect, and him vowing to undo Obama executive orders, possibly including Executive Order 13662 (which banned the sale and importation of Russian made AK rifles). Could we be seeing a resurgence of less expensive AKs flooding the market, effectively driving down the higher price of AKs we've been seeing lately? I'm curious, because I am looking at AK rifles at the moment and am hesitant on pulling the trigger should the prices of AKs drop if I wait a little while. Your thoughts?

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The import of firearms of Russian origin is controlled by a "Voluntary Restraint Agreement" (VRA) that the Russians authored and our US State Department agreed to support / enforce.

http://tcc.export.gov/Trade_Agreemen...exp_005371.asp


Russia Agreement On Firearms And Ammunition
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ON EXPORTS OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION FROM THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
The Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Russian Federation, hereinafter referred to as the "Parties,"
In the context of removing a number of existing restrictions on the importation into the United States of firearms and ammunition from the Russian Federation;
Recognizing the foreign policy interest of the Parties in expanding trade in firearms and ammunition between the, United States and the Russian Federation in a manner compatible with domestic security;
Recognizing the intention of the United States of America that United States policy with respect to access to the United States market for firearms and ammunition be applied in a nondiscriminatory manner to all of its trading partners;
Wishing to promote trade and cooperation on an equal and mutually beneficial basis between the United States and the Russian Federation and to expand economic opportunities in the two countries;
Have agreed as follows:
Article 1: Definitions.
The following definitions apply to this Agreement:
(a) "Ammunition" means any ammunition, cartridge case, primer, bullet, or propellent powder designed for use in any firearm.
(b) "Firearm" means any nonautomatic, semiautomatic, or automatic firearm, to caliber .50 (12.7 mm) inclusive other than a shotgun, or any component or part for such firearm.
(c) "New model ammunition" means a type of ammunition the manufacture of which began after February 9, 1996,
(d) "New model firearm" means a type of firearm the manufacture of which began after February 9, 1996.
Article 2: Firearms and Ammunition Export Prohibitions.
The Government of the Russian Federation shall not allow the exportation from the Russian Federation, destined to the United States, of the following firearms and ammunition:
(a) any firearm, including any new model firearm, except a firearm described in Annex A to this Agreement;
(b) ammunition described in Annex B to this Agreement; and
(c) new model ammunition.
Article 3: Consultations.
(a) Each Party shall provide to the other Party, on request, information necessary for the implementation and enforcement of this Agreement. A Party shall keep confidential all information received from the other Party that is designated by the providing Party as confidential and shall not provide it to any other government or any private person without the providing Party's written consent.
(b) The Parties agree to consult promptly, not later than 30 days after receipt of a request from either Party, regarding any matter concerning this Agreement.
(c) At any time, either Party may propose that a firearm be added to or deleted from Annex A or that ammunition be added to or deleted from Annex B. The Parties shall consult promptly regarding such a proposal and may amend either Annex by written agreement of the Parties.
(d) Where a question arises as to whether a particular firearm or ammunition is subject to the export prohibition in Article 2, the Parties shall consult promptly. The firearm or ammunition shall be subject to the export prohibition pending resolution of the matter.
Article 4: Construction.
Nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to affect the applicability to firearms, ammunition, or other products of the laws and regulations of the United States or the Russian Federation imposing restrictions or requirements on importation.
Article 5: Actions to Ensure the Effectiveness of this Agreement.
Either Party may take any action, as provided in its laws and regulations, necessary to ensure the effectiveness of this Agreement.
Article 6: Emergency Actions.
If the Government of the United States determines that the actual or prospective importation of any firearm described in Annex A or ammunition other than that described in Annex B is causing or threatens to cause damage to the domestic security of the United States, the Government of the United States reserves the right to take any measure it deems appropriate consistent with the Agreement on Trade Relations, signed between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the United States of America at Washington on June 1, 1990, as amended, brought into force between the United States of America and the Russian Federation pursuant to an exchange of notes on June 17, 1992. The Government of the United States shall consult with the Government of the Russian Federation prior to taking any such measure. If prior and prompt consultations are not possible because of an emergency situation, the Government of the United States shall consult with the Government of the Russian Federation as soon as possible after taking the measure.
Article 7: Amendments.
This Agreement may be amended by written agreement of the Parties.
Article 8: No Effect on Articles in U.S. Customs Territory.
This Agreement shall not affect the fulfillment of contracts with respect to firearms or ammunition entered or withdrawn from warehouse for consumption in the United States on or before February 9, 1996.
Article 9: Annexes; Entry into Force; Termination.
(a) The Annexes to this Agreement are an integral part of this Agreement.
(b) This Agreement shall enter into force upon the date of its signature by both
(c) Either Party may terminate this Agreement by providing written notification to the other Party at least twelve months prior to the date of termination.
Done at Washington on April 3, 1996, in duplicate, in the English and Russian languages, both texts being equally authentic.
/S/ /S/
For the Government of the For the Government of the
United States of America Russian Federation
ANNEX A
Firearms Permitted to Be Imported into the United States from the Russian Federation
Pistols/Revolvers
1. German Model P08 Pistol
2. IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol
3. IZH 3 5M, .22 caliber Target Pistol
4. Mauser Model 1896 Pistol
5. MC-57-1 Pistol
6. MC-1-5 Pistol
7. Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol
8. Soviet Nagant Revolver
9. TOZ 35,.22 caliber Target Pistol
Rifles
1. BARS-4 Bolt Action Carbine
2. Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber
3. British Enfield Rifle
4. CM2,.22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2,.22 caliber)
5. German Model 98K Rifle
6. German Model G41 Rifle
7. German Model G43 Rifle
8. IZH-94
9. LOS-7 Bolt Action Rifle
10. MC-7-07
11. MC-18-3
12. MC-19-07
13. MC-105-01
14. MC-112-02
15. MC-113-02
16. MC-115-1
17. MC-125/127
18. MC-126
19. MC-128
20. Saiga Rifle
21. Soviet Model 38 Carbine
22. Soviet Model 44 Carbine
23. Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle
24. TOZ 18,.22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle
25. TOZ 55
26. TOZ 78
27. Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber
28. VEPR Rifle
29. Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle
ANNEX B
Ammunition Prohibited from Being Imported
into the United States from the Russian Federation

1. 7.62X25mm caliber (also known as 7.63X25 mm caliber or.30 Mauser)

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TANC offers these agreements electronically as a public service for general reference. Every effort has been made to ensure that the text presented is complete and accurate. However, copies needed for legal purposes should be obtained from official archives maintained by the appropriate agency.

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With Trump becoming President-elect, and him vowing to undo Obama executive orders, possibly including Executive Order 13662 (which banned the sale and importation of Russian made AK rifles). Could we be seeing a resurgence of less expensive AKs flooding the market, effectively driving down the higher price of AKs we've been seeing lately? I'm curious, because I am looking at AK rifles at the moment and am hesitant on pulling the trigger should the prices of AKs drop if I wait a little while. Your thoughts?

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OFAC (Office of Foreign Assets Control) was at the last import / export conference that I attended (summer 2014).
The trade / financial sanctions now placed on the Russian Federation are rather extensive and complex.
Bottom line is that any money being sent or received as payment is at risk of being seized by the US Treasury department.

Read here:

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...spx#directives

SANCTIONS AGAINST PERSONS CONTRIBUTING TO THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE AND
PROHIBITING CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE CRIMEA REGION OF UKRAINE

This document is explanatory only and does not have the force of law. Executive
Orders 13660, 13661, 13662, 13685, applicable laws, and the implementing
regulations pertaining to Ukraine (31 C.F.R. part 589) contain the legally
binding provisions governing the sanctions. This document does not supplement
or modify the Executive orders or the Regulations.

I. INTRODUCTION

The Ukraine/Russia-related sanctions program implemented by the Office of
Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) began on March 6, 2014, when the President, in
Executive Order (E.O.) 13660, declared a national emergency to deal with the
threat posed by the actions and policies of certain persons who had undermined
democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threatened the peace,
security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine; and
contributed to the misappropriation of Ukraine’s assets. In further response to
the actions and polices of the Government of the Russian Federation, including
the purported annexation of the Crimea region of Ukraine, the President issued
three subsequent Executive orders that expanded the scope of the national
emergency declared in E.O. 13660. Together, these orders authorize, among other
things, the imposition of sanctions against persons responsible for or complicit
in certain activities with respect to Ukraine; against officials of the
Government of the Russian Federation; against persons operating in the arms or
related materiel sector of the Russian Federation; and against individuals and
entities operating in the Crimea region of Ukraine. E.O. 13662 also authorizes
the imposition of sanctions on certain entities operating in specified sectors
of the Russian Federation economy. Finally, E.O. 13685 also prohibits the
importation or exportation of goods, services, or technology to or from the
Crimea region of Ukraine, as well as new investment in the Crimea region of
Ukraine by a United States person, wherever located.

II. OVERVIEW OF AUTHORITIES

On March 6, 2014, the President issued E.O. 13660 pursuant to, inter alia, the
International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. §§ 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA)
and the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. §§ 1601 et seq.) (NEA).

On March 16, 2014, the President issued E.O. 13661 pursuant to, inter alia,
IEEPA and the NEA to expand the scope of the national emergency declared in E.O.
13660 of March 6, 2014.

On March 20, 2014, the President issued E.O. 13662 pursuant to, inter alia,
IEEPA and the NEA to further expand the scope of the national emergency declared
in Executive Order 13660 of March 6, 2014, and expanded by Executive Order 13661
of March 16, 2014.

On May 8, 2014, OFAC issued a set of regulations to implement E.O. 13660, E.O.
13661, and E.O. 13662 (79 Fed. Reg. 26365, May 8, 2014). See 31 C.F.R. part
589, Ukraine-Related Sanctions Regulations (the “Regulations”) for details.

On July 16, 2014, the Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with the
Secretary of State, issued a determination that section 1(a)(i) of E.O. 13662
shall apply to the financial services and energy sectors of the Russian
Federation economy.

On September 12, 2014, the Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with
the Secretary of State, issued a determination that section 1(a)(i) of E.O.
13662 shall also apply to the defense and related materiel sector of the Russian
Federation economy.

On December 19, 2014, the President issued E.O. 13685 pursuant to, inter alia,
IEEPA and NEA to take additional steps to address the Russian occupation of the
Crimea region of Ukraine. E.O. 13685 prohibits the exportation or importation
of any goods, services, or technology to or from the Crimea region of Ukraine,
and prohibits new investment in the Crimea region of Ukraine by a U.S. person,
wherever located.

Ukraine/Russia-related sanctions also block the property and interests in
property of individuals and entities listed in the Annex to E.O. 13661 or of
those determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, after consultation with the
Secretary of State, to meet the criteria in E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662,
or E.O. 13685, including those determined:

• To be responsible for or complicit in, or to have engaged in, directly or
indirectly, any of the following:

o Actions or policies that undermine democratic processes or institutions in
Ukraine;

o Actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty,
or territorial integrity of Ukraine; or

o Misappropriation of state assets of Ukraine or of an economically significant
entity in Ukraine;

• To have asserted governmental authority over any part or region of Ukraine
without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine;

• To be a leader of an entity that has, or whose members have, engaged in any
activity described in E.O 13660
or of an entity whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to
E.O. 13660;

• To be an official of the Government of the Russian Federation;

• To operate in the arms or related materiel sector in the Russian Federation;

• To operate in such sectors of the Russian Federation economy as may be
determined by the Secretary of Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of
State;

• To operate in the Crimea region of Ukraine;

• To be a leader of an entity operating in the Crimea region of Ukraine;

• To be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on
behalf of, directly or indirectly a senior official of the Government of the
Russian Federation; or a person whose property and interests in property are
blocked pursuant to E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662, or E.O. 13685; or

• To have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or
technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of a senior
official of the Government of the Russian Federation; activity described in
subsections a(i) or a(ii) of E.O. 13660; or a person whose property and
interests in property are blocked pursuant to E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O.
13662, or E.O. 13685.

This fact sheet is a broad summary of the sanctions currently in place. For an
updated list of authorities and sanctions please refer to the OFAC’s website at:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...s/ukraine.aspx.

III. PROHIBITED TRANSACTIONS

Sanctions with respect to the Ukraine/Russia-related sanctions program fall into
the following three broad categories, as set forth in greater detail below:

(1) Blocking sanctions against individuals and entities designated pursuant to
E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662, or E.O. 13685 and listed on the List of
Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons (SDN List);

(2) Sectoral sanctions against entities operating in sectors of the Russian
economy identified by the Secretary of the Treasury pursuant to E.O. 13662 and
listed on the Sectoral Sanctions Identification List (SSI List); and

(3) A new investment ban and prohibition on the exportation or importation of
goods, technology, or services to or from the Crimea region of Ukraine.

Blocking sanctions

Unless otherwise authorized or exempt, transactions by U.S. persons or in the
United States are prohibited if they involve transferring, paying, exporting,
withdrawing, or otherwise dealing in the property or interests in property of an
entity or individual listed on OFAC’s SDN List. The property and interests in
property of an entity that is 50 percent or more owned, whether individually or
in the aggregate, directly or indirectly, by one or more persons whose property
and interests in property are blocked pursuant to any part of 31 C.F.R. chapter
V are also blocked, regardless of whether the entity itself is listed. For
details please see:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...ing_guidance.p
df.

Sectoral sanctions

The sectoral sanctions imposed on specified persons operating in the Russian
economy identified by the Secretary of the Treasury were implemented under E.O.
13662 through Directives issued by OFAC pursuant to its delegated authorities.
Those Directives impose prohibitions on U.S. persons and within the United
States for certain specified transactions with entities made subject to the
relevant Directive, as identified on the SSI List. The property and interests
in property of an entity that is 50 percent or more owned, whether individually
or in the aggregate, directly or indirectly, by one or more sanctioned persons
are also sanctioned, regardless of whether the entity itself is listed on the
SSI List. The property and interests in property of these persons are not
blocked, nor are transactions with them prohibited beyond these restrictions.

• Directive 1, as amended, prohibits the following transactions by U.S. persons
and within the United States: (1) all transactions in, provisions of financing
for, and other dealings in new debt of longer than 30 days maturity or new
equity of persons determined to be subject to Directive 1, their property, or
their interests in property; and (2) all activities related to debt or equity
issued before September 12, 2014, that would have been prohibited by the prior
version of Directive 1 (which extended to activities involving debt of longer
than 90 days maturity or equity if that debt or equity was issued on or after
the date a person was determined to be subject to Directive 1).

• Directive 2, as amended, prohibits the following transactions by U.S. persons
and within the United States: transacting in, providing financing for, or
otherwise dealing in new debt of longer than 90 days maturity of the persons
subject to Directive 2, their property, or their interests in property.

• Directive 3 prohibits the following transactions by U.S. persons and within
the United States: transacting in, providing financing for, or otherwise dealing
in new debt of longer than 30 days maturity of the persons subject to Directive
3, their property, or their interests in property.

• Directive 4 prohibits the following transactions by U.S. persons and within
the United States: providing, exporting, or reexporting, directly or indirectly,
goods, services (except for financial services), or technology in support of
exploration or production for deep-water, Arctic offshore, or shale projects
that have the potential to produce oil in the Russian Federation, or in maritime
area claimed by the Russian Federation and extending from its territory, and
that involve any person subject to Directive 4, its property, or its interests
in property.

The names of those persons and entities listed in an Annex to, or designated
pursuant to, E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662, and E.O. 13685, whose property
and interests in property are blocked, are published in the Federal Register and
incorporated into OFAC’s SDN List with the prefix “UKRAINE” in the program tag
associated with each listing. The names of those entities that are subject to
Directives 1, 2, 3, or 4, pursuant to E.O. 13662, are published in the Federal
Register and incorporated into OFAC’s SSI List with the prefix “UKRAINE-EO
13662” in the program tag associated with each listings. The consolidated SDN
and SSI Lists are available on OFAC’s website at http://www.treasury.gov/sdn.

New investment ban and trade embargo

The following transactions involving the Crimea region of Ukraine are generally
prohibited:

• New investment in the Crimea region of Ukraine by a U.S. person, wherever
located;

• The importation into the United States, directly or indirectly, of any goods,
services, or technology from the Crimea region of Ukraine;

• The exportation, reexportation, sale, or supply, directly or indirectly, from
the United States, or by a U.S. person, wherever located, of any goods,
services, or technology to the Crimea region of Ukraine; and

• Any approval, financing, facilitation, or guarantee by a U.S. person, wherever
located, of a transaction by a foreign person where the transaction by that
foreign person would be prohibited if performed by a U.S. person or within the
United States.

III. AUTHORIZED TRANSACTIONS

GENERAL LICENSES

OFAC may authorize certain types or categories of activities and transactions
that would otherwise be prohibited under the Ukraine/Russia-related sanctions
program by issuing a general license. General licenses may be published in the
Regulations or on OFAC’s website. For example, certain transactions related to
derivative products under Directives 1, 2, and 3 of Executive Order 13662 are
authorized where the underlying asset would constitute new debt or equity
subject to those directives.

Additionally, certain transactions which would otherwise be prohibited pursuant
to E.O. 13685 are authorized by general license, including:

• The exportation or reexportation of certain agricultural commodities,
medicine, medical supplies, and replacement parts from the United States or by a
U.S. person, wherever located, to the Crimea region of Ukraine;

• Noncommercial, personal remittances by U.S. persons to or from the Crimea
region of Ukraine, or for or on behalf of a person ordinarily resident in the
Crimea region of Ukraine;

• The operation of certain accounts in a U.S. financial institution for an
individual ordinarily resident in the Crimea region of Ukraine;

• Certain transactions with respect to the receipt and transmission of
telecommunications and mail involving the Crimea region of Ukraine; and

• The exportation or reexportation of certain services and software from the
United States or by a U.S. person, wherever located, to the Crimea region of
Ukraine.

For a current list of all general licenses relating to the Ukraine sanctions
program, please see 31 C.F.R. part 589 subpart E and visit
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...s/ukraine.aspx.

SPECIFIC LICENSES

On a case-by-case basis OFAC considers applications for specific licenses to
authorize transactions that are neither exempt nor covered by a general license.
Requests for a specific license must be submitted to OFAC’s Licensing Division.
License requests may be submitted using any of the below methods:

• Online: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...licensing.aspx

• Fax: (202) 622-1657

• U.S. mail: Assistant Director for Licensing, Office of Foreign Assets Control,
U.S. Department of the Treasury, 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Freedman Bank
Building, Washington, DC 20220

V. PENALTIES

Civil monetary penalties of up to the greater of $250,000 or twice the amount of
the underlying transaction may be imposed administratively against any person
who violates, attempts to violate, conspires to violate, or causes a violation
of E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662, E.O. 13685, or the Regulations. Upon
conviction, criminal penalties of up to $1,000,000, imprisonment for up to 20
years, or both, may be imposed on any person who willfully commits or attempts
to commit, or willfully conspires to commit, or aids or abets in the commission
of a violation of E.O. 13660, E.O. 13661, E.O. 13662, E.O. 13685, or the
Regulations.

This document is explanatory only and does not have the force of law. Please
see particularly Executive Orders 13660, 13661, 13662, and 13685, the
Regulations, and other applicable laws and regulations for legally binding
provisions governing the sanctions. This document does not supplement or modify
the Executive orders, laws or regulations.

OFAC administers a number of U.S. economic sanctions programs. OFAC sanctions
programs can range from being comprehensive in nature, such as a program that
blocks the entire government of a country and includes broad
geographically-based trade restrictions, to being fairly limited, such as a
program that targets only specific individuals and entities. Some programs both
target particular individuals and entities and prohibit types of transactions.
It is therefore important to review the details of any given sanctions program
to understand its scope. It is also important to note that although a program
may be targeted, the prohibitions in such programs on dealings with individuals
and entities whose property and interests in property are blocked are very
broad, and they apply regardless of where the targeted person is located. The
names of individuals and entities that are designated or identified as blocked
by OFAC are incorporated into OFAC’s list of Specially Designated Nationals and
Blocked Persons (SDN List), which includes over 6,000 names of persons whose
property and interests in property are blocked. Note, however, that the SDN
List is not a comprehensive list of all such entities and individuals. The
property and interests in property of an entity that is 50 percent or more
owned, whether individually or in the aggregate, directly or indirectly, by one
or more sanctioned persons are also sanctioned, regardless of whether the entity
itself is listed on the SDN or SSI Lists.

Please note that OFAC maintains other sanctions lists that may have different
prohibitions associated with them. See the “Sanctions Programs and Country
Information” page for information on specific programs and other Treasury
sanctions lists). Because OFAC’s programs are constantly changing, it is very
important to check OFAC’s website on a regular basis. You may also wish to sign
up for updates via OFAC’s Email Notification System, to receive notifications
regarding changes to OFAC’s sanctions programs. For additional information
about these programs or about sanctions involving Ukraine and Russia please
contact:

OFFICE OF FOREIGN ASSETS CONTROL
U.S. Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Freedman Bank Building
Washington, DC 20220
www.treasury.gov/ofac
(202) 622-2490

06-16-2016

Apex Gun Parts, I read the above two posts, am I to understand that it's not quite as simple as repealing a couple of executive orders? That's what I'm gleaning from the above documents.

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I think you're better off waiting a few months regardless. The bottom is about to fall out of the gun market.

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This is what I am planning on doing. I foresee prices dropping significantly in the coming months.

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

This is what I am planning on doing. I foresee prices dropping significantly in the coming months.

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This seems like the way to go. Maybe I can get an awesome price on an AK.

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Apex Gun Parts, I read the above two posts, am I to understand that it's not quite as simple as repealing a couple of executive orders? That's what I'm gleaning from the above documents.

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There are more than Executive Actions and Executive Orders that have regulated imports.
It isn't even a single Gov't agency!
The VRA was authored by the Russians, as were its annexes.
OFAC is dealing with US sanctions imposed on the Russians because of their involvement in the Ukraine.
President Trump has a lot of big agenda items in his sights, unless he assigns a "special advisor" to track down all these detailed "fixes" and gets the Congress & Senate to approve the changes, I don't expect a better supply to become available.

Restoring the imports of US origin surplus will be an easier task!

Richard

Good to know. Thanks for the information on it. Honestly, even if AK's were to drop a little bit in price, I'd be thrilled. It's strange how "budget" AK's tend to cost more on today's market than most "budget" AR-15's. Honestly, If I'm looking for a quality AK, it's about the same price as buying an AR-10 (or LR-308). It would be great to see them drop a little bit in price. That way, I can live out my dream of yelling "For Mother Russia" in a poorly attempted Russian accent while smoking a cigar and firing from the hip. All joking aside, it would be nice to be able to get a rifle has been such a part of the world history.

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Good to know. Thanks for the information on it. Honestly, even if AK's were to drop a little bit in price, I'd be thrilled. It's strange how "budget" AK's tend to cost more on today's market than most "budget" AR-15's. Honestly, If I'm looking for a quality AK, it's about the same price as buying an AR-10 (or LR-308). It would be great to see them drop a little bit in price. That way, I can live out my dream of yelling "For Mother Russia" in a poorly attempted Russian accent while smoking a cigar and firing from the hip. All joking aside, it would be nice to be able to get a rifle has been such a part of the world history.

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Have you considered doing parkour on a 40 story building as a viable alternative? :D

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Have you considered doing parkour on a 40 story building as a viable alternative? :D

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Me trying parkour would look something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKIf1ZbFhLM

I'd be more happy if there was no barrel ban for parts kits lol but I know there won't be days of building compliant aks on flats with original barrels for under 150$ again lol

I think the prices on many guns in general, specifically all foreign made ones, should be coming down substantially this year as stated previously. If the importation bans get shredded I'm hoping for prices on SKS's to come way down. Recently got interested in trying one but don't want to pay what they're asking when I used to see them for under $150.

Yes, and those pesky disposable maga- oops, I mean clips. makes it too expensive for them to shoot.

As we experienced no laws or regulations regarding imports have changed.
No staff at ATF changed.
The US DoS is leaderless (all top spots are filled with "acting" heads)
Hopefully next year is when we can effect change.

Richard