What is your take?
Update
So what path do you see the GOP taking, where would you like it to go?
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What is your take?
Update
So what path do you see the GOP taking, where would you like it to go?
I'd first ask what you define/see as being under the umbrella of that label (actual groups, persons, etc.), how you define their views (or rather, understand their views to be defined), etc. to make sure of what you are viewing as such.
Yes, this first.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
New media boogie man.
alt right
noun
a) Liberal, leftist code for anyone who's not a liberal leftist
b) Anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton
ex: "Alt right is a term applied to anyone on the political scale who holds beliefs to the right of Sean Penn and various other Hollywood elites or academics, and implies any such person is a hate-mongering homophobic, misogynistic, racist, deplorable human being."
When I hear that term I picture Breibart news and Milo Yianpoulous. But I am not sure what it actually means.
P.S.
Are you white? Do you love America? Do you believe in individual nation sovereignty?
You're a, wait for it...........
White Nationalist!!! Gasp!
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
The left is so fond of labels... I say we bring back some oldies but goodies when referring to them... Assholes, perhaps?
In my opinion, Alt Right is a contrived term to put conservatives in a box and then assign common, negative beliefs and attitudes towards them. Liberals have tried for many years to make everyone believe that Republicans are all a bunch of homophobic, racist, bigots of one sort of another. Now that they have been saying it for so long that it has been disproven, they are embracing a new way of marketing it. Basically now they are saying "well this new fringe Alt right, who aren't even republicans have hijacked the Republican Party. These Alt right guys are the Skinheads, and unsavory people and people who believe in government destabilization. Republicans need to go out of their way and renounce these causes because if you don't, by default you believe in them and you are part of the Alt Right. " It's just a branding war against conservatism plain and simple. It's designed to continue the myth that most of the Republican and Libertarian parties are just a bunch of racist Skinheads, and convince those low information Republicans to be self haters, vote for spineless, ineffective, low energy, elitist, or liberal minded Republicans like John Kasich, Jeb Bush, and Mitch McConnell. People who are happy just getting elected and voting on legislation across party lines, not introducing anything controversial, not resisting the liberal wave of activist legislation, and never try and advance a conservative agenda. They are scared of people like Cruz, Trump, Santorum, etc who actually have an agenda, who intend to pursue it, and who aren't looking to just be absorbed by the party collective and assume the position of subordinating to the elitists.
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I think ColoradoMinuteMan nailed it.
The New/Alt Right are the conservatives who got tired of the pussycat Republicans who rolled over whenever the Leftists moved their agenda along.
it's the lefts new moniker for those they disagree with. Since the RACIST / RACISM terms have failed them. As it did here in CO when they used WAR ON WOMAN in the Udall / Gardner contest
However. anything i hear or read from the Alt-Wrong i ignore as more futile ramblings of the weak.
Don't feed the trolls
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama
Alt-Wrong.. LOL I like it. Alt-Wrong = (D) and their worthless "feelz".Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
A label intended to distract conservatives from the final trashing of the US as Obama slinks around doing the most damage he can in the last month.
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Originally Posted by ColoradoMinuteMan
Nailed it. Same rhetoric when the left referred to anything to do with the TEA party.
What "Alt-Right" folks are you all paying attention to? I asked OP to define and he has not done so.
It's kinda like saying, "What do you all think of Communists?" Well that's kind of a loaded question unless I define Communists and what I mean by that, cus some little snowflake who is in a commune and believes in community ownership is a far cry different from Mao.
Agreed. I've heard the term many times, but only from people/news sources that would not identify as "conservative" themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Like "Neo-Conservative", the term has become meaningless. It simply means "Someone I disagree with, even if I can't express why." It took months for Neo-Conservative to become so debased. It took about a week for "Alt-Right" to become so meaningless.
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Originally Posted by SG1
What is your take on "fake news?"
Don't bother answering. I don't care.
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Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Vox day is great, love his writings on immigration, Stefan molyneux has great vids, alot of podcasts are really funny to listen to.
More or less I see the Alt/new right as the future as the Neo Cons/Cucknservatives have done everything in their power to lose, not wield power when they win, and fear being called "racist" more then losing the nation, culture, freedoms they claim to value..
The Alt Right does not care one bit and it works so well, the left can only scream names, bring up facts, and a better vision of the future to the fence sitters/ and hell more and more of the white groups of the DNC.
If we restrict immigration like we did in 1924, build the wall/deport them all, end birth right ciztenship, along with Federal voter ID laws we can really turn the tide in our favor, something those cucks like McLame and Graham would rather die then support even if it means their party being unable to win any election again because of the left importing hordes of voters because "muh principles".
Neo Cons/Kempism is 50-60 years of proven failure...And its great to see they are being seen for what they are, fools and sellouts.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by spqrzilla
Neo consism has very well defined values.
Open Borders
Mass immigration
GDP over national security/culture
Imperialism
"Compromise" on major issues
Surrender on major issues before any debate has taken/place
Israel/Globalists First America last
It is ridiculous to constantly be defending ourselves from name calling when we did nothing wrong other that take the country back in the name of the constitution.
I think it’s time to start attaching labels to the left and putting the them in a single group moniker, like “Sore Loser’s”
You had me up until the Israel (Jews) part, when people talk about Israel they're talking about Jews. I support Israel and I want Trump to mend the rift that Obama has created with Israel.
I tend to look askance at people who think Jews are ruining this country or the planet. BTW globalists aren't for Israel, globalists want the Muslims to wipe Israel off the map. Obama, Clinton, McCain, Bush are all globalists, perhaps Bush wants Israel to survive but most globalists do not.
The media portrays "alt right" as white supremicist, "white nationalist". I dont agree with that categorization. I think there are "fiscal" conservative folks that agree with some "liberal" social views. The national government has way over stepped its bounds on many social issues like womens rights (abortion), equal opportunity, etc. They have also overstepped on economic issues including free market interference, EPA, and health issues. I see the "alt right" as those of us that believe less national government is better. Less government is better, but lets not let the extreme right "religious" right rule our lives either.
Better Alt-Right than Always Wrong (i.e., Leftists, Communists, Socialist, Regressive Liberals, etc.).
I believe the bottom line is.... Who cares what You Think. The strip clubs in lost wages kick you out, again.
Yep. X2Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
CommunistsQuote:
Originally Posted by Big E3
Marxist
Anti White
Anti American
Traitor
They seemingly fit the bill on all accounts.
More over, the left will scream racist no matter what we do/or say, to them White people just existing is "racist".
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Originally Posted by roberth
Thank you for proving my point. You can criticize Israel, and no that does not make people anti Semitic.
Why are we in the Middle East at all?
Why is our foreign policy always focused on the benefit of other nations rather then our own?
Why is it that Israel can have the most restrictive immigration laws/border fences on Earth but the moment we talk about doing the Neo Cons who support such things for Israel always say "those are not our values", do not work, will not work and are some how "hateful, bigoted, "racist", etc?
Neo cons are proven failures, at best they just leftist who favor lower taxes, that is about it.
Aw the Religious Right, those morons, lets not care if we become a Latin American failed state, all that matters is "muh abortions, muh gay marriage, muh fill in the blank..." All those morons have done is burn political capital on non issues while major things that could help us like Immigration Reduction/Voter Protection Laws are forced on the back burns.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 20X11
Thank god these people have been force to the back of the bus.
Oh, horse manure. You just proved my point. Actual Neo-Conservatives had none of that in their policy positions at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
And yet that is what they push.Quote:
Originally Posted by spqrzilla
Do you even know what a Neo Con is?
Reading this thread is like coming back from the dentist fully medicated. IS THIS REAL LIFE?
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I didn't prove any point, much less yours, in fact I strongly dispute your statement about the Jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
Our foreign policy to going to change to a US-centric policy under Trump, if you want answers to why previous administrations placed other countries interests over our own just look at the Comintern from the 30s until the wall came down and the relationships between the Saudi royal family and the Bush, Clinton, and Obama presidencies.
I'd find it more interesting if the OP was a little more cohesive and well-written in his argument. Kinda hard to follow his points and he simply asserts them gratuitously with no backing argument or sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
that wont happen, since he joined all he does is troll us. Never posts, goes a while then posts some stuff like this, all from another state. we have had threads closed over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
This thread has inspired me to cancel my membership in the Alt Right (no, I was never a member but Clinton said I was).
I am now a member of the Cntrl+Alt+Delete.
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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck
Maybe he has this section confused with the Trading Post Forum
Wrong. Trump would not have won but for the Religious Right. Or what you might have once called everyday, normal, well adjusted, decent, hardworking folk.Quote:
Originally Posted by SG1
The state has no bigger mandate than of the preservation of the family unit, and the protection of the innocent. For without strong stable families as a foundation to formate good, moral citizens we will continue to have more of the same.
Children do not learn morals from the public education system.
The government does not provide it to them.
It comes from the family unit and churches.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
"The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind."
- Benjamin Rush
"The Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence." - Noah Webster
" Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."
- George Washington
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin
But perhaps you believe these are merely the musings of dead, old, white men and in no way could apply to such a group of advanced people as that of the United States. A people that seeks secure borders to protect us from foreigners that do us physical or economical harm, while sanctioning the wholesale slaughter of the un-born and promoting every form of deviant behavior as normal, and seek to eliminate the moral fabric of our country, the family unit.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
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