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Hmmmm. Do I need another M&P? I probably don't but I'll still buy one.
Well crap, now that I have my full size 9 set-up just how I like they bring this out lol. Don't think I'll sell mine and get a 2.0 but if I was in the market I certainly would.
btw Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore has them in stock for $459.99 with free shipping.
They use previous generation's magazine? Anyone knows?
Same mags.. fit same holster.. Trigger pack is different on the 2.0. Got 5 of them at the shop in different variants. I think Mike will steal them all before the week is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXFattyHunterXX
What shop?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey
Damn, that's a hot pistol. I was thinking of picking up a 1.0, but I may hold out for the 2.0.
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Originally Posted by SuperiorDG
Damage Factory
Does the FDE one only come with a manual safety?
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I just ordered a DCAEK & polymer trigger for my FS to stop myself from ordering a 2.0. Hopefully S&W got the trigger right on this one.
If you are like me, you'll like your "custom" old model better than the off the shelf new one...Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklabel
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That's lame I guess I could delete it.Quote:
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It comes with no safety too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gunner
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Is the purpose of the window on the frame to collect dirt?
Handled one today at Damage Factory (FDE 9, 5"). The texture treatment on the grip is very nice, on that feature alone I'd consider getting one IF I didn't already have my older one. The trigger is an improvement over the original but still doesn't come close to the Apex duty/carry kit (with aluminum trigger) I have in mine, nor did I expect it too.
If I was in the market for a new pistol I'd get one though in black, 4.25". I do like the M&P pistols and feel S&W did a nice job on this gun.
How is the reset on the trigger? I have an APEX trigger in my M&P and the reset is nearly unnoticeable.
Audible and tactile reset on the 2.0 is very noticeable but outside of that the trigger feels like a typical M&P trigger. I'm a huge fan of the Apex kits, they're still far superior, my Shield also has one however I'm using their polymer trigger in that gun, the aluminum one in my full size.
Smith & Wesson released the M&P M2.0 5" in FDE w/the manual safety and a loaded chamber indicator that they do not include with the 4.25" version. No idea why that is, but I've shot the 5" 9mm version quite a bit and I like it!
Here is my review and some range and competition videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQhyHbnbUCQ&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ELewt39bU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq7G7EGC-FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5clz3uNxFo
The trigger isn't as nice as the APEX Trigger, but it is (to me) a major improvement. I was able to remove the manual safety and plug the frame w/frame plugs provided by Smith & Wesson, and I've put well over 1,000 rounds through mine and it runs great. There were some strange extraction issues when I first shot it, but I cleaned it pretty good and ran a few hundred through it and all is well.
Put the first 200 rounds through my M&P 2.0 yesterday with zero issues. Here's my take on it.
First, the grip texture is awesome. Once you have a hold of the pistol it is pretty much locked into place. I'm not sure if there would be issues if this was a carry gun as far as rubbing your sensitive areas or snagging clothing or whatever.
Besides being perfectly reliable so far, the accuracy was great as well. The 2.0 is noticeably more accurate than the last M&P I owned.
The trigger is pretty nice for a striker fired handgun. Not VP9 or PPQ nice but still pretty decent for an out of the box pistol. There is a fair amount of take up before the trigger bar engages the sear but once you get there the trigger break is crisp and well defined with very little overtravel. The reset is short and noticeable but not forceful like a Glock. Overall I would say the trigger on my example is pretty nice.
The sights on mine are just your garden variety, non-tritium, three dot sights. They were spot on at reasonable distances but I did engage some targets at about 35 yards just for fun and found at that range the shots were Impacting about a foot higher than point of aim. I'll have to measure the factory sights and try to get a taller front sight when or if I replace them.
I would say if you're in the market for a polymer, striker fired handgun but you're one of those guys that doesn't like the fit or feel of a Glock the M&P would be a good option.
Aim surplus has .40 SW M&P police trade ins for $299. Would you choose an original with an apex trigger or a 2.0?
(or, a 2.0 with an apex?)
$299 seems like a good deal and leaves you room to upgrade to your liking without having a lot of money tied up in the thing. Of course I say that but with $300 in the pistol and if you dump another $150 into upgrades then you're right at the cost of a brand new 2.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
In a nutshell, what you don't get with the original M&P is the extra metal reinforcement in the frame, the longer frame rails, the different grip texture, the fourth backstrap, and a steel magazine release. You do get the built in beaver tail on the original version that is no longer present on the 2.0 but I always hated that beaver tail and have actually removed it on my last M&P.
Personally, I'm not a 40 caliber kind of a guy so all of the trade in handguns flooding the market right now aren't tempting me. Although I'm tempted to pick up a Sig P229 and swap the 40 cal barrel,out for a 357 Sig barrel.
Spot on Ray!Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
I love the M&P9 M2.0 - shot it in a USPSA Match yesterday and it was great (that's my third match with it). I have the M&P9 5" Pro and the 4.25" in the original version as well. I upgraded both - the Pro has the full Apex trigger kit, a Pachmayr grip sleeve, and Trijicon HDs. The 4.25" has the same setup minus the trigger (kept the actual trigger stock, but installed the Apex kit). Both are great pistols, but the M&P9 M2.0 is stock except for the sights (TruGlo TFOs that I'd removed from the 4.25").
The .40 cal seems to be losing buyers - a P229 for $450? Wow - so I don't know if $299 is a great value, but it is a great price. Side note, what happened to the .40??? Great round (not my choice) - but it seems to be less popular... A topic for another thread...
The best setup (to me) would be an M2.0 w/the Apex trigger or springs, but I'm keeping mine stock for now.
I think a lot of law enforcement agencies are switching back to the 9mm from the 40 lately. I think they are starting to realize that a couple of good shots with a 9mm are just as effective as a couple of bad shots with the 40 and the 9mm is typically easier for most people to shoot comfortably and accurately. Not to mention the wear and tear on a service handgun tends to be less in 9 than 40.
I'm seeing lots of Glocks, M&Ps, and Sigs popping up cheap as law enforcement makes the switch to 9mm.
oh, definitely. i picked up a brand new M&P Pro C.O.R.E. 40SW for under $400 about 15 months ago. the 9s are all over $600 it seems (cheapest i've seen in $638 other than at an auction)Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
I recently picked up a 5" M&P 2.0 FDE 9mm. Initial impressions were very positive. As many other have stated, the texturing on the grip is amazing. It literally just 'sticks' to your hands. I have always been a glock guy but just holding this thing made me question my Gen4 G17. Depending on how well I shoot the M&P, I maybe replacing my 19 with 4.25 version.
not to mention slightly more capacity, if you're not limited to 15 rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
on another note, I wonder if the reinforced frame means 10mm or Rowland conversions could be possible? Rowland stopped doing conversions because of problems...
I love the M&P M2.0, but not enough to replace my Glock's :). Besides, it's a buyer's market right now :).Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthPaw
Got my hands on one yesterday and I like the feel over the 1.0.
9mm 2.0 will be my next purchase. Got to check one out at liberty ther other day, the new texture is much better and the trigger was nice.
Took mine back out to the range today and put another hundred rounds through it. The more I shoot it the more I like it. This thing is super accurate. Especially compared to the last original M&P I owned. Maybe I was just having a really good day behind the trigger this morning but I just couldn't miss with this thing. Every shot I squeezed off went right where it was supposed to go.
A coworker fired some rounds through it and was immediately impressed to the point that I am pretty sure he is going to go buy one. He shot it just as well as he was shooting his Glocks and his VP9 and he had never handled or fired it before today.
I'm thinking a 2.0 compact might find it's way into my safe when they start hitting the streets.
This is the gun that S&W should have released when they introduced the M&P.
Ongoing update on my impression of the M&P 2.0.
Had the chance to use it in an IDPA match last weekend. Really liking it more and more every time I shoot it. I'm not 100% sure but the aggressive grip texture might have been a minor issue once. Started one stage with the pistol loaded on a barrel in front of me and when I picked it up I didn't quite get the grip I wanted and that bad grip was kind of locked in until the reload. Kind of slowed me down a bit as I focused on shooting with a slightly awkward grip. Getting a good grip coming out of the holster worked like it should as the grip texture locked the good grip into my hand. Definitely needs some better sights soon but most factory handguns do anyways.
Thanks for the ongoing update Ray, I'm keeping my eye out for the compact 2.0, will likely be something I'm very interested in trying out (only to run back to carrying my Glock).
Just as I was making the switch to Glocks too.
And all of my magazines dropped right out too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4x9Q9xXfA&t=539s
The compact is coming.
Picked up a Compact 2.0 and have put 600 rounds through it. In factory trim, the trigger is barely an improvement over the old M&P. The stippling is great for shooting, but very abrasive for carry. The slide does not auto-forward like the old M&P does when you jam a mag in with force. Internally, the front frame tabs that guide the slide are much longer, and the sear actuation is slightly different than the old model where the trigger loop travels under the sear. Now, the trigger bar hits a lever attached to the side of the sear. I installed an Apex Sear and USB, along with Dawson sights. My old 9c has the same mods, and the Compact 2.0 shoots no better or worse than the 9c. However, there is virtually no creep in the 2.0 trigger with an Apex sear, while my old 9c has that slightly spongy feeling as the sear starts to move. For me, 2.0 Compact is much harder to conceal than the 9c, which reminds me why I didn't go with a G19 in the first place. I like the 2.0 Compact as an all around package, but by no means is the old 9c obsolete.
I don't believe this was ever designed as a "feature", Glocks will do it also, but in all my training I've been taught to use the hand over slide method, not jam the mag in so hard it causes the slide to release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravy Sandwich