Seems there are multiple victims at Fort Lauderdale Airport. I would wager that is another religion of peace attack.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...port/96248086/
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Seems there are multiple victims at Fort Lauderdale Airport. I would wager that is another religion of peace attack.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...port/96248086/
But it's illegal to shoot people. How could this happen?
5 Dead, 8 wounded. Amazed at how ignorant people are about safety, security, and danger.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
No description of the man in custody... should we take bets?
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Esteban Santiago has been identified as the gunman who opened fire at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to Senator Bill Nelson of Florida. Nelson told MSNBC that Santiago had a military ID and handgun with him when he shot up the baggage claim, killing several people and wounding more.
I would have lost that bet... unless Esteban Santiago decided to go Moorish native.
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The senator, a Florida Democrat, tells MSNBC that the initial gunman was identified as 26-year-old Estaban Santiago and was carrying a military I.D.
Oooooooo they can start the all vets are broken and crazy narrative though.
My other thought was, it was drug related. Disgruntled vet? It never occurred to me.
Convert? Has happened before.
Remember José Padilla, also known as Abdullah al-Muhajir or Muhajir Abdullah, convicted of plotting an Al Queda radiological bomb attack?
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Originally Posted by CavSct1983
We have to ban all Star Wars movies too.
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Witness John Schichler described the shooter as slender and wearing a blue Star Wars T-shirt.
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The Alleged Shooter Was From New Jersey
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Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Shepard Smith reported that the shooter's affiliation with the military is unconfirmed. I am hoping that they find he is not.
CNN is reporting checked firearm in bag, got off of plane, picked up gun out of bag and started shooting. CNN former Secret Service guest and others already screeching to "close the checked gun in a bag loophole!"
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Interesting quote from my fb feed - NOTE- NO CONFIRMATION OF SOURCE but I trust the guy that posted it as he is in the local LE community down there.
I REALLY hope this is bad info, could cause a lot of problems with the chicken little crowd.Quote:
* Updated * Sheriff reports, there is no second shooter at this time, but they are not 100% Certain.
The shooter was a passenger on a Canadian Flight, with a check weapon which he declared. He claimed his baggage, took his weapon from the baggage, loaded it in the bathroom, exited the bathroom and began firing on people.
I was noticing this last time I flew. I was thinking it might be better to pick up your declared firearm at some point that is not baggage claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
Still nothing to prevent someone from walking into baggage claim from outside and gunning folks down at any U.S. Airport. Or loading a taxi up with exsplosives and detonating it right outside. Or any number of things that show how easy it is to kill human beings in the 21st century.
The TSA security theatre doesn't work, and likely neither will whatever the .gov dresms up next to keep us "safe"
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Violentia Operandi
Well I think you are correct. I am so tired of impotent lords making the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
Flaccidity can inspire a certain kind of hardness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonsey
Tsa is good for bunching people up in large groups.
Of course the solution from the statists and graboids will be to demand we outlaw guns within 10 miles of any airport.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but here goes.
Five Questions to ask Yourself About Airport Security.
1. Would zero security screening be better than what we have have now?
2. How SHOULD airport security be handled here in the U.S.? (Lets first assume we actually want some form of screening to occur before anyone steps onto an aircraft.)
3. Should the TSA be: Eliminated? Improved? Armed/unarmed? Replaced, and if so by whom?
4. Would your system violate more or less constitutional rights than the current system?
5. If the only thing you would change to the current system is the way in which firearms are transported, what changes would you make?
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Official: Suspected Gunman Told FBI He Was Being Forced To Fight For ISIS
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/01/06...ed-fll-gunman/
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AirCanadia is claiming he wasn't a passenger and there were no checked firearms on the reported flight.
See what the media did there?
Canned narrative/disinfo, ready to go hoping it stayed alive throughout the news cycle. Now it will be dropped by tomorrow and the victims will be forgotten.
So he was your basic dirtbag nutbar.
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They add that in November 2016, he walked into an FBI office in Anchorage claiming that he was being forced to fight for ISIS. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital.
In 2011 or 2012, he was investigated by Homeland Security Investigations for child porn. Three weapons and a computer were seized, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute, according to law enforcement sources.
Santiago also has a record for minor traffic violations and was evicted in 2015 for not paying rent.
I loathe the media.
These are really good questions. My first thoughts are that we should be allowed to create our own "safe spaces" by not being stripped of our arms. This only answers #5. I am curious what other ideas you guys come up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOLON LABE
He flew Delta, so AirCanada wouldn't have a record of him.
See what the media did there... they investigated and reported.
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Originally Posted by Skip
That's not what they "reported."Quote:
Originally Posted by drew890
Also not being "reported" until all gun owners could indicted...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...3739983238.jpg
That's why you need to calm down and not start with unfounded "media" blaming. It's a fluid situation where naturally there will be mistakes being made in the initial police and media response. It's a fact of early response and the instant news reporting that we live in. Miss identifying an airline in the initial aftermath of an incident is not an indication of some "media" conspiracy.
After 24 hours and they are still misreporting, then by all means sound the conspiracy horns.
Yep. Wouldn't be anything for some nut job to pack a backpack full of explosives, walk into a busy airport like DIA, get in that long, crowded security checkpoint, and then detonate the damn thing. Probably take out a couple hundred people if the explosion was big enough.Quote:
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I have that same scarf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Pretty comprehensive report here. Seems the shooter may have had "PTSD" or some other psychosis. Makes me think of Major Hasan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Hasan
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/esteba...tims-military/
According to reports I've read, he picked up his gun in the locked case at baggage claim, took it into the bathroom, loaded it and came out firing. How would TSA be involved at all outside of the security area?
They're not. Every airport handles checked in firearms differently when picking up from baggage. Here in CO it's not an issue (till now) in NY when i pick up a long gun, it's to the transit authority office, show ID open for inspection then leave. In places like Fresno no one cares, @ LAX, bring lube.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
1. Would zero security screening be better than what we have have now?
No. I believe there should be some form of physical and technological screening methods employed, even if its profile based "random" screening.
2. How SHOULD airport security be handled here in the U.S.? (Lets first assume we actually want some form of screening to occur before anyone steps onto an aircraft.)
A. Limit of one carry on item per person which is screened separate to eliminate the bogged down TSA checkpoints.
B. All checked bags dropped off and picked up outside the airport and each bag individually screened before shipment.... see bullet point I.
C. Bomb sniffing animals employed at all gates, and roving patrols.
D. SRT/ERT/SWAT/ insert your favorite Acronym and EMS on 24/7/365 on site at all major passenger airports.
E. Minimum of one armed Federal Air Marshall at every gate.
F. All US Pilots Marshaled and trained in the use of firearms.
G. All cockpits bulletproofed.
H. All checked bags are sent to your destination address - (Hotel, House, Business etc.)
3. Should the TSA be: Eliminated? Improved? Armed/unarmed? Replaced, and if so by whom?
Eliminated completely and replaced by FAMS.
4. Would your system violate more or less constitutional rights than the current system?
I do not believe so, and even if it did marginally I believe it would keep us safer.
5. If the only thing you would change to the current system is the way in which firearms are transported, what changes would you make?
None. Crazy will do crazy.
Because you want to be like an A-rab?Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Nope, because they are useful and match the color of the landscape of where I was often shooting at the time of purchase. I don't think I have that exact color.
The single raised finger is a jihadi gesture. Means a few things, depending on your source... one umma, the Shahada (La illaha illa Allah, Mohammad rasul Allah -- there is no god but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger), etc.
The scarf is only really material in that context.