NFA engraving while you wait in Northen Colorado...Who?

Yes, I know damagefactory does it, I know engrave cave does it, I know Colorado Gunwrites does it. However none of those are in Northern Colorado in my book. Driving to Denver or further is not something I want to ever, ever, ever do. EVER!!!

Has anyone used Colorado Laser Engraving in Fort Collins? http://www.colaserengraving.com/

Other threads mentioned that tacticool in Greeley doesnt actually engrave, they send them off. I dont want to send them off, I want to wait and take them home with me.

Anyone up in Greeley, Fort Collins, Loveland?

Pm sent
I will be gone until next Tuesday.

Just go see Troy at ColoradoGunWrites and make a day of it.

His work is second to none.

I've been told by the guys on ar15.com k&k laser in Evans is gtg.

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Originally Posted by Hoser

Just go see Troy at ColoradoGunWrites and make a day of it.

His work is second to none.

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Driving to denver is a 3 day event.1
1 to get there, safely

2 preparing yourself for the return trip

3 waiting for the anxiety meds to kick in..


Last 2 visits, 25 was like a demo derby. Left lane EXITS NOW cutting of 2 suv's and a loaded 40' cattle carrier . Someone did a DUDE stop in the left lane. When he finally realized everyone but him were stopped. He left more rubber on the pavement than a canal street hooker.

Yes CGW does a nice job, as DF does too. The idea of having to drive there for a non-emergency isn't even on radar, for some of us weld cty folk.

Tacticool Arms in Greeley has an engraving service.

I see an Engraver in your future.

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

Tacticool Arms in Greeley has an engraving service.

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They outsource for it. Told me 3-5 business days, depending on parts.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

They outsource for it. Told me 3-5 business days, depending on parts.

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Sounds like you have a side business in your near future Kazoo...

I would be happy to help you out if you'd like to send it down. Next day return service.

You can engrave the information for the Uzi on the barrel if you're doing a SBR. It would be a lot cheaper to ship just the barrel.

The engraver doesn't need the whole gun, just the part that gets engraved. They don't need the stock or any of the internal parts. By stripping everything off of your Tommy gun or AR you could probably cut the shipping weight in half and reduce the size of the box. I usually leave the easily removed parts home most of the time when have I taken something to get engraved. It makes it easier for them to work with it.

I am of the opinion that marking the receiver on your Model B would reduce the value. Also if you mark the barrel you can switch between SBR and regular non-NFA gun when ever you want to, including when you sell it. The biggest drawback I see is every short barrel you put on it would need to be engraved.

A few years ago I had a great experience with T&T Engraving in Colorado Springs.

Call us: 719-632-2780
2605 E Willamette Ave., Colorado Springs CO 80909
tt.engraving@prodigy.net

At that time the same location also housed "Deep Discount Gun Broker"
It is always a good idea to have licensed individual handling your firearms, especially when they are being "worked on"

Because I was in contact with them before hand and set up a day / time to come in they did the engraving while I waited.
I provided a copy of the ATF instruction that describes the size, depth and font required for the markings.
They may still have that sheet.
The approved FORM 1 showed exactly what needed to be engraved on the receiver.
As to the "where" its engraved, the guidance just said it has to be readily visible on the firearm.

T&T did what was required, was fast, did a great job and charged a fair price.

Richard

Good luck man. I started a similar thread years ago & came up blank. I've since had Colorado Gun Writes do several of my firearms from poly, to aluminum to good ol' steel. Great work while you wait & he is happy to put your engraving in all sorts of creative/awesome locations w/o any additional charge. That being said, it's a PITA to make that drive these days. I usually try to knock out several at once & some of my buddies will even car pool along w/me. It seems as though there's a market up north if anyone w/time & ambition is listening.

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Originally Posted by Hoser

Just go see Troy at ColoradoGunWrites and make a day of it.

His work is second to none.

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This. Come down and enjoy the scenery.

27 CFR 479.102
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-20...sec479-102.pdf
(2) otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel…
By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed.
(i) The model, if such designation has been made; (ii) The caliber or gauge; (iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;
(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and …

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

Thompson, UZI and an AR. I cant ship the first two cheaply, way too much money to ship. Everyone is too far away. Im over 80 miles to Denver one way. Much further to Castle Rock and the springs.

I shipped one of my Thompsons to my Dad, it was very expensive to ship. Obviously an IMI Uzi model b is pretty heavy too.

Thank you for the offer though.

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You can ship just the receiver for the AR and UZI. Barreled receiver for the Thompson. Being you are in state, shipping would be reasonable. As we are an 07/02 SOT we can receive and ship these for you. As far as location, the engravings have to be on the receiver themselves. We do most AR's in the trigger well, Uzi's underneath on the back and Thompsons on the receiver under the barrel. When blacked out when completed they are very inconspicuous but visible for ATF inspection.

uzi in the pic is mine and built on home built receiver. The engraving was made to replicate the IMI original markings. That is prior to blacking out.

When you are making a Short Barrel Rifle from an existing rifle using a Form 1 you can use the original manufacturers information. You only need to add your makers name and location. Your name and location can be on the "frame, receiver, or barrel". See the link above.

I used Troy @CGW for my first NFA items, and he does great work and is a great guy. Used to talk to him when working the tanner shows too and he always made time for chit chat.

Paddywagon is closer for me and did my last three NFA. A DIY Ti can and two SBR lowers.

Awesome results. Highly recommended.

He did them while I waited, but since he's SOT, that makes it convenient if you need to ship in state.

This is an old thread....

I have done laser engraving on my personal NFA items. It is a pretty straightforward process but my current laser is "small" and to get the required depth takes a while. I have a new laser coming that will do the engraving in minutes.

The problem with doing NFA items is
1) The SOT. This is something that could be handled by having the person standing there or having someone with an SOT do it.

But the real problem.

I dont know what engraving costs (as I said, I do myself), but I suspect $25-50?

There is a lot of risk with modifying someone's NFA item for them if they dont like something. For $25-50 is it really a good business risk to use a $30K laser system and hope someone likes how it turns out?

Maybe the way to do it is to rent time on a laser system and let people do it themselves...then if they screw it up..their fault...

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Originally Posted by DDT951

This is an old thread....

I have done laser engraving on my personal NFA items. It is a pretty straightforward process but my current laser is "small" and to get the required depth takes a while. I have a new laser coming that will do the engraving in minutes.

The problem with doing NFA items is
1) The SOT. This is something that could be handled by having the person standing there or having someone with an SOT do it.

But the real problem.

I dont know what engraving costs (as I said, I do myself), but I suspect $25-50?

There is a lot of risk with modifying someone's NFA item for them if they dont like something. For $25-50 is it really a good business risk to use a $30K laser system and hope someone likes how it turns out?

Maybe the way to do it is to rent time on a laser system and let people do it themselves...then if they screw it up..their fault...

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Weld CTY is fairly large, where at in WC?

SW Weld

Just got my Form 1 today and had Troy at ColoradoGunWrites in Arvada do the engraving
Can not say enough good things about the job he did.

Big thumbs up for Colorado Gun Writes

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Last 2 visits, 25 was like a demo derby. Left lane EXITS NOW cutting of 2 suv's and a loaded 40' cattle carrier . Someone did a DUDE stop in the left lane. When he finally realized everyone but him were stopped. He left more rubber on the pavement than a canal street hooker.

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You must have followed me to work.....that describes most of my morning commutes.

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Originally Posted by stevenc23

Just got my Form 1 today and had Troy at ColoradoGunWrites in Arvada do the engraving
Can not say enough good things about the job he did.

Big thumbs up for Colorado Gun Writes

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I agree. Troy does outstanding work.

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Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

Yes, I know damagefactory does it, I know engrave cave does it, I know Colorado Gunwrites does it. However none of those are in Northern Colorado in my book. Driving to Denver or further is not something I want to ever, ever, ever do. EVER!!!

Has anyone used Colorado Laser Engraving in Fort Collins? http://www.colaserengraving.com/

Other threads mentioned that tacticool in Greeley doesnt actually engrave, they send them off. I dont want to send them off, I want to wait and take them home with me.

Anyone up in Greeley, Fort Collins, Loveland?

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I have had him engrave a lot of stuff for me. Does a great job and pretty good price

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Originally Posted by Hoser

I agree. Troy does outstanding work.

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Does he do it while you wait or is it a drop off and come back sort of deal?

Back when I went, made an appointment and waited for it to finish, about half hour for me.

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Originally Posted by XXFattyHunterXX

Back when I went, made an appointment and waited for it to finish, about half hour for me.

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Cool thanks. It's not too far for me so it would be nice to do it locally and wait

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Originally Posted by tmckay2

Cool thanks. It's not too far for me so it would be nice to do it locally and wait

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Things could of changed, I'd call ahead. I went about 4 years ago and it was at his house.

Is the consensus that there is nobody in the Fort Collins/Loveland area that does NFA engraving?

Tacticool Arms in Greeley 'used' to do it. They have since switched hands on ownership so I am not sure if they still do. Worth a call and let us know what you find out.

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

Tacticool Arms in Greeley 'used' to do it. They have since switched hands on ownership so I am not sure if they still do. Worth a call and let us know what you find out.

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That's still 45 min to an hour away from me. I can make it to north Denver in that amount of time.

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Originally Posted by mpatch

That's still 45 min to an hour away from me. I can make it to north Denver in that amount of time.

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Avoiding I-25 would be worth that alone to me.

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Originally Posted by SouthPaw

Avoiding I-25 would be worth that alone to me.

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Amen to that.

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Originally Posted by mpatch

Is the consensus that there is nobody in the Fort Collins/Loveland area that does NFA engraving?

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K&k laser in Evans is the closest that I know actually does the work but not while you wait. Prices are fair.