WHY THE F#:K IS IT...

...people feel the need to take their goddamned dog everywhere they go?
It's not your freakin kid, it will be OK while you got to Home Depot to get a new trash can for fucks sake.
I go to HD on Wednesday to get some stuff for work, 3- 10' sticks of copper pipe so I'm using a cart. I go up one aisle, 2 fat assed dykes with 2 Pomafuckwhateverthehellyouare dogs on leashes are deciding which sprinkler they need. They move over so I can get by but don't pay any mind to the dogs that are sitting in the middle of the aisle and I can't get by.
Move your fucking dogs! I finally had to ask them to move their dogs.
Fuck!

Today I go with the Mrs to look at some lights and a trash can (who pays $100.00 for a damn trash can anyway?) And there is some broad with a full sized poodle and 2 little kids trying to get a trash can too. The kids are being kids, jumping all over the displays while the dog tangles the broad up with its leash. The broad can't catch the kids until she untangled herself, she does so and turns to deal with the kids and the dog delivers the CouDeGras'- takes a dump on the floor right in front of the trash cans the wife wanted to look at.
Fuck!

Needless to say we need to find a trash can still.....

I have noticed the same thing at Home Depot lately. Used to be rare to see someone with a dog in there, now they are everywhere.
I didnt even bother with the store on Grant when I lived in town, it was worth the drive to hit the one over in Brighton near Platte Valley hospital. Less traffic, less stupid in the store.

Maybe it's not everyone else that's the problem. That's what the wife tells me.

She's wrong.

I'd rather deal with dogs dumping in the Depot than the Fatty Fucktard families that constantly wander the aisles of Costco, line abreast so as to block the entire aisle, at a pace that would bore a tortoise, going from one free food sample to another. Fuckin' Costcos need to be nuked on Sat mornings.

We had one at the office I work at. Dummy bought a service dog vest and claimed it as such. The dog was no service animal. Jumped on people and was nippy.

I told the guy to control his pet many times and he would get angry for me calling it a pet. I then told him if his pet jumped on me or nipped at my that would be the end of his pet right then and there. No warning, I would just shoot it. His pet hasn't been back in a while and will not be.

HR had it under review and determined it or he wasn't qualified for said service pet.

I can't stand these pets in stores. The stores have no power for fear of coming in conflict with ADA rules. But what about employees or other patrons who may be allergic or fearful of dogs. True service dogs are well behaved and you don't notice them.

I think I am going to claim my handgun a service device. If i dont have it i get great uncontrollable anxiety and calm down by knowing I have. Why are the two pieces of property treated differently? Mine I well behave and is rarely seen, the other, not so much, plus it's dirty, brings bugs, attacks on its own, ect...

My ex's daughter now has 8 cats in her rented condo.
The condo only allows 2 pets, but she and her new husband claim 3 each as "service" animals.

ADA has been out of control for a while.

Must be grouchy old man Saturday, I found just the few people I ran into getting tires to be annoying, but they really didn't do anything wrong

I hate it. Dogs in stores everywhere, it's out of control. There oughta be a state law strictly prohibiting dogs and cats in stores except for seeing-eye dogs. Big fines, including for service animal fraud. No emotional support animal bullshit.

In Montrose a while back I encountered some fucktard doper dragging his cat around on a leash on a busy sidewalk of Main Street. He thought it was cool. The cat was terrified. He relished engaging people in conversations, some young women and many angry people. It was a rare but prime example of animal cruelty. I wanted to beat him to death.

Something tells me that the people who do this probably won't reply.

People think their dogs are people and treat them as such. I upset some people recently when they asked if I wanted a wheel chair for my severely aging lab. I said, "No, the day he can't get up on his own is the day he gets put down." They couldn't believe I could be so heartless. My best friend spent years in the foster care system before being adopted. He absolutely hates when people use those terms with pets.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Maybe it's not everyone else that's the problem. That's what the wife tells me.

She's wrong.

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People have told me that as well. I disagree.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

Something tells me that the people who do this probably won't reply.

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Oh, yes they will. The people who do this are typically self-centered and arrogantly believe that everyone should love their animals as they do. Accepting their animals is tantamount to accepting them. They don't know or care about anyone else's sensibilities.

I'll respond. I've taken my Corgi into Home Depot twice...when she was just a few months old. She sat quietly in a cart and she enjoyed the attention everyone gave her. Hard not to smile at a Corgi puppy. It's a good way to socialize a puppy without having them run around out of control. Even though she's now a well behaved young adult I don't take her into stores any more because I know not everyone appreciates dog. Especially grumpy old gunsmiths. :) I don't have a problem with people having their dogs in the stores. The problem really isn't the dogs...it's the people. As usual.

99% of the animals in stores are not licensed or trained service animals. They have no business inflicting their animals on others. This mindset that animals have the same rights as people is wrong. This includes charging people for killing a police dog. It is not an officer and does not deserve the same rights as one. If I were an officer I would be offended if people said that some stupid animal was as important as me.

My 18 year old dog is legally considered a "support animal" due to my ptsd and my therapist pretty much demanding it after an issue with a former landlord. That being said, he stays at home unless I'm going out of town for more than a couple of days.

I take my dog anywhere I'm allowed to ... I like my dog (which is not something I can say about most people) so I like having him with me.

We also sometimes take him to Lowes just to walk around in the winter time.


But we also don't pretend he's a service dog either ... hate those people.

Also ours is tremendously well behaved and probably the friendliest dog you'd ever meet (but yeah, you threaten to shoot my dog and you go to jail ... you're not doing gun owners any favor with that bullshit attitude).

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

I'll respond. I've taken my Corgi into Home Depot twice...when she was just a few months old. She sat quietly in a cart and she enjoyed the attention everyone gave her. Hard not to smile at a Corgi puppy. It's a good way to socialize a puppy without having them run around out of control. Even though she's now a well behaved young adult I don't take her into stores any more because I know not everyone appreciates dog. Especially grumpy old gunsmiths. :) I don't have a problem with people having their dogs in the stores. The problem really isn't the dogs...it's the people. As usual.

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You're right, of course. But despite an owner's innocent intentions, most any dog is capable of inflicting serious damage in an instant, faster than you can respond. A dog bite can cause infection and permanent tissue damage. I grew up with dogs and have loved several fine dogs that were not my own. But I don't wan to encounter strange, uncontrolled dogs in stores or on the trail. I could cite many examples like the Boulder chicklet whose two dogs jumped up on me, dirtied my clothes and damaged my camera lens in their exuberance. "Oh, they're friendly, they won't hurt you." Clueless, and careless.

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Originally Posted by WETWRKS

99% of the animals in stores are not licensed or trained service animals. They have no business inflicting their animals on others. This mindset that animals have the same rights as people is wrong. This includes charging people for killing a police dog. It is not an officer and does not deserve the same rights as one. If I were an officer I would be offended if people said that some stupid animal was as important as me.

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Cite an example where a person was charged with First Degree Murder (of a police officer) for killing a police dog. Killing a police dog is not the same as killing a police officer. Sure...in an emotional context people may say that...but it's hyperbole and everyone (at least reasonable people) knows that.

Having said that, killing a police dog should carry a hefty punishment. A lot of time, effort and expense goes into acquiring, training and maintaining police dogs. You'd be punished for destroying another piece of high value police equipment (like a vehicle) so it should be no less for killing a police dog. You'd also be charged for killing your neighbor's dog while committing a crime (which is when most people kill police dogs) in most places.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Everybody's pet is a %$%$ing "service" animal now.

I want to treat them all like they are retarded. "Oh, I am so glad to see such a special person out with the community." [Wave] "All made possible by a dog. I'm glad they permit you retards to have their service animals. The dogs are just so intelligent by comparison"

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^^^^^
Yes.

And, BTW. My "stupid animal" is a member of my family. If someone attacked my dog or harmed my dog for an unprovoked reason my response would be quite swift. Not unlike if the same person attacked my wife.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

And, BTW. My "stupid animal" is a member of my family. If someone attacked my dog or harmed my dog for an unprovoked reason my response would be quite swift. Not unlike if the same person attacked my wife.

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+1 (but to be fair not all dog owners are as conscientious as you and I are. I imagine dogs owned by liberals are probably more of a nuisance)

You can't shoot someone's dog just because its being annoying ... and I've seen MANY more annoying children in stores than dogs ... effin breeders :p

I, like many of us, have great respect for police dogs. All the facets that they can be trained to do is amazing. When I see an actual impaired person relying on a trained canine, I'm am nothing less than emphatically impressed.

Trained in search and rescue, tracking, drugs, explosives, psychological/ emotional, other health issues, etc. etc. Really cool applications like that.

Someone who abuses the Service Dog Title?...........blow me.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Cite an example where a person was charged with First Degree Murder (of a police officer) for killing a police dog. Killing a police dog is not the same as killing a police officer. Sure...in an emotional context people may say that...but it's hyperbole and everyone (at least reasonable people) knows that.

Having said that, killing a police dog should carry a hefty punishment. A lot of time, effort and expense goes into acquiring, training and maintaining police dogs. You'd be punished for destroying another piece of high value police equipment (like a vehicle) so it should be no less for killing a police dog. You'd also be charged for killing your neighbor's dog while committing a crime (which is when most people kill police dogs) in most places.

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I don't know what the official charges were or what they pled to...

http://www.akc.org/content/entertain...long-sentence/

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/man-...ry?id=41645362

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96229&page=1

But the sentences are in line with killing a person. And these sentences are not in line with the destruction of property. You steal or destroy something you are not typically going to get 10+ years in prison much less closer to 40. Moreover there are people who have been convicted of murder who have gotten sentences less than 40 years.

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Originally Posted by WETWRKS

I don't know what the official charges were or what they pled to...

http://www.akc.org/content/entertain...long-sentence/

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Judge Jill Rangos stacked the sentences for Rush’s multiple convictions, which included killing Rocco; stabbing Rocco’s handler, Officer Phil Lerza; punching officers; and attempting to take an officer’s gun.

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A little more to the story than killing a police dog, wouldn't you say? Stabbing a police officer will get you a reservation at the Gray Bar Hotel.

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/man-...ry?id=41645362

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An Ohio man who killed a K-9 officer has been sentenced to 34 years for the incident that resulted in shooting the dog and 11 years for additional crimes.

Kelontre Barefield, 23, pleaded guilty to both shooting K-9 officer Jethro and four unrelated burglary charges and an aggravated robbery charges, according to the Stark County Clerk of Courts.

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So, let's see...burglary, aggravated robbery, getting into a shootout with police officers. Yeah...you're gonna go to jail for a while.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96229&page=1

But the sentences are in line with killing a person. And these sentences are not in line with the destruction of property. You steal or destroy something you are not typically going to get 10+ years in prison much less closer to 40. Moreover there are people who have been convicted of murder who have gotten sentences less than 40 years.

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You seem to be missing the parts of the stories where all the offenders you cited were convicted of various other crimes against persons and property.

I'm not big on animals. Though I understand why people are attached to them. I work downtown and see dogs all day long. Don't normally mind them as long as the owner picks up after them, my only gripe is I wish they wouldn't let them piss on street light bases, switch cabinets, per boxes, or anything else I have to work on.

What about bicyclists who bring their dogs on rides, and then go into the store for snacks with the dog, while wearing a spandex jersey that says "Glocks suck", and open carrying?

:D

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

What about bicyclists?

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You could've just left it at that. They're more annoying than any dog in the history of dogs.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

You seem to be missing the parts of the stories where all the offenders you cited were convicted of various other crimes against persons and property.

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34 of the 45 year sentence was for killing the dog.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/0...uty-get-fired/

And:

In 2014, a South Carolina man fleeing from police after committing an armed robbery was attacked by a police dog. The man shot the dog several times. When he was eventually caught, each bullet he fired he fired was considered an attempted murder charge, in addition to the charge of killing the dog. He got 35 years.

I bought my Can at Walmart about 8 years ago and complained about $80 per, but they still look new and get the job done. Btw I take my mini doberdoodle everywhere [Coffee]


Jk

I agree with Burt, my wife would agree with Bailey, I respect my wife's opinion, and she respects mine.

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Originally Posted by davsel

My ex's daughter now has 8 cats in her rented condo.
The condo only allows 2 pets, but she and her new husband claim 3 each as "service" animals.

ADA has been out of control for a while.

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I wouldnt say ADA is, it's everyone being scared of enforcing it or running afoul of it. For example. Cat's are not valid service animals. Currently only dogs and miniature horses are listed under ADA.

But by ADA laws only 2 questions you can really ask people. "Is this a service animal required because of a disability" and "What task is the animal trained to perform." Unfortunately there are no guidelines on what acceptable answers are. Good fakers just say it's a seizure dog. The usual idiots never encounter the 2nd question and freeze up before answering therapy animal or some such.

Under ADA there is no simple "comfort" animal aka an animal that it's mere presence is therapeutic. However gray area as what is recognized is an animal "trained to calm or distract the handler" during like a panic attack or bi-polar sperging out.

Oh and when they whip out their cards/patches/etc. No credentialing agency or anything like that is recognized by ADA either. They are 100% products bought online or bought from shitty doctor/clinic groups who have you visit once or a few times and say congrats you have a service animal. (or the very rare legitimate service animal training groups I imagine may still give their graduates vests etc even though the law doesnt require or recognize them.)

I agree completely. Leave your damn dogs at home. Don't bring them in the car to Home Depot, then think you'd better bring it in or someone will call the cops because its too hot. Leave the damn dog at home. I tire of people bringing their animals everywhere. I don't care if they are your family; leave them at home.

I also have an issue with some of my former Soldiers who feel their short time in either sandboxes qualifies them for a service dog, even though they saw no action, saw no death and do not need a "support" dog. It is a "Hey look at me, I'm a Vet and I deserve something" type of attitude that I want to slap out of them violently.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

And, BTW. My "stupid animal" is a member of my family. If someone attacked my dog or harmed my dog for an unprovoked reason my response would be quite swift. Not unlike if the same person attacked my wife.

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Yup, I've had my little 12lb guy for 15 of his 18 years. He's tried to protect me many times, there'll be no hesitation if I need to protect him from anyone or anything.

The up side is.............they didn't leave the dog in the vehicle. [fail]

I love my dogs as if they are my own children....Didi is a registered service animal.

The difference? They stay at home when I need to leave the house.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

The up side is.............they didn't leave the dog in the vehicle. [fail]

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Good point there. Seeing dogs in cars piss me the f off.

We went on a vacation recently and I couldn't believe how many freakin' people I saw with dogs at DIA! Not just service dogs, but regular ol' pets. DOZENS of them! In the concourses too, not just the main terminal. At other airports too, but DIA was crazy.

Edit: I missed Fitz's post above.

I could be wrong here, but I believe that it's against the law to even ask if an animal is a service animal or not. Maybe that's just our corporate policy, but I've worked at a few casinos and it was the same deal at all of them.

"Don't ask. If the animal isn't housebroken or is aggressive toward other people, tell the person to remove the animal from the property. Otherwise, let them stay."

I don't like hair on my food. Now I gotta also worry about dog/cat/hamster fur on my food.