Father forgot he put gun in his son's backpack. He was arrested for what he did next.

Father forgot he put gun in his son's backpack. He was arrested for what he did next.

People. What the hell is wrong with them? [fail]

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MIAMI - As a Miami father left his home Thursday morning to take his 8-year-old son to Kendale Elementary, he put his pistol in the boy's backpack - then forgot about the weapon, police said.

But instead of calling authorities, Ramon Nuiry walked into the school and asked administrators to summon the boy with the bag. Inside the office, Nuiry fished the gun out of the bag, put it in his waistband and left the school, according to an arrest report.

Nuiry, 53, was arrested and charged Thursday with possessing a weapon on school grounds, improper exhibition of a weapon and possession of a concealed firearm. He was booked into a jail late Thursday.

A terrified parent who saw Nuiry take the weapon out of the bag notified school officials, who called Miami-Dade Schools police. Detectives reviewed surveillance footage, which confirmed the account.

Police arrested Nuiry on Thursday afternoon, when he came to pick up the boy at the Kendall school. He confessed, according to an arrest report by Miami-Dade Schools Detective John Messenger, and the gun was found inside the car.

The arrest report did not say whether Nuiry admitted why he put the weapon in the book bag to begin with.

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This story doesn't add up at all. Seems like the guy was trying to hide the pistol for some reason in the first place.

Should have just took the bag and walked out. Nobody would have been the wiser. Situations like this you have to plan out.
DA will probably drop the case, unless he is a convicted felon.

Florida Man

We had a thread in another forum titled "only in Florida", there was so much gold in there. Kinda wish the board was still up so I could re-read it.

Florida

idiots like this shouldn't have a gun period. Why would you put a gun in your kid's bag to begin with.




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Even if there was some rational reason to put the gun in the bag (not that I can think of one)...then handle it differently.

"I need for my son to gather up his belongings and meet me for a father/son discussion." Make it a 'disciplinary issue' if you need to.

Take the kid out to the car and take the gun out of the bag in the car...then send him back to class.

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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

idiots like this shouldn't have a gun period. Why would you put a gun in your kid's bag to begin with.




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You really seem into the idea of perfection and ripping away rights for the slightest infraction.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

You really seem into the idea of ripping away rights for blatant stupidity.

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fixed it for you.


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Off with his head!

LOL

Dork + 1000.

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Originally Posted by Justin

Florida Man

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Exactly my thought.

but when a cop does something like that its ok.....

http://www.voicenews.com/news/sherif...36b4223a8.html

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Originally Posted by feal

but when a cop does something like that its ok.....

http://www.voicenews.com/news/sherif...36b4223a8.html

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This guy is the top dog in his county. I'm sure a deputy would have some splainin to do. this whole thread is something I think about a lot. It's as if no one is allowed to be imperfect. Hey life is hectic, shit happens. I'm not going to give into this mind set. Many of the people in the world barely made it through high school. Not everyone aced the driver's test. Not everyone eats healthy. This guy fucked up. No one got hurt. If it was me I'd feel bad. Should this ruin his life? No. Most of us have done something that could have been absolutely terrible if our guardian angel watching. We should make a mental note of this, and hope we don't have to deal with something like this.

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Originally Posted by ben4372

This guy is the top dog in his county. I'm sure a deputy would have some splainin to do. this whole thread is something I think about a lot. It's as if no one is allowed to be imperfect. Hey life is hectic, shit happens. I'm not going to give into this mind set. Many of the people in the world barely made it through high school. Not everyone aced the driver's test. Not everyone eats healthy. This guy fucked up. No one got hurt. If it was me I'd feel bad. Should this ruin his life? No. Most of us have done something that could have been absolutely terrible if our guardian angel watching. We should make a mental note of this, and hope we don't have to deal with something like this.

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Indeed. I screwed up bad, bad, bad once on my first deployment. My section sergeant and the Senior Scout called me to their CHU and simply asked, "Paper or sweat?" I chose the latter, and boy did I sweat. For hours, and hours, and hours. I considered that merciful compared to the article 15 which would have resulted had they not given me the option and went with paper.

The mentality of write up everyone, arrest/charge/try, take away rights, etc., with no sense of leniency and contextual consideration is one of strict justice, which is ultimately tyrannical. It bespeaks an emotionally stunted individual to adhere to such a mentality. I pity such people when not in charge of anything. I shudder when they are elevated to any position of power.

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Originally Posted by ben4372

This guy is the top dog in his county. I'm sure a deputy would have some splainin to do. this whole thread is something I think about a lot. It's as if no one is allowed to be imperfect. Hey life is hectic, shit happens. I'm not going to give into this mind set. Many of the people in the world barely made it through high school. Not everyone aced the driver's test. Not everyone eats healthy. This guy fucked up. No one got hurt. If it was me I'd feel bad. Should this ruin his life? No. Most of us have done something that could have been absolutely terrible if our guardian angel watching. We should make a mental note of this, and hope we don't have to deal with something like this.

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I'm really disappointed in the laissez faire attitude of gun owners (and many on this forum) in regards to the mishandling, improper storage, unsafe handling, bad decision making and downright negligence regarding the use of firearms.

We have an entire leftist population that wants to confiscate and ban every single one of our guns...we, myself, you, and everyone else that owns and uses firearms for whatver reason can't afford to be "imperfect".

Every single instance of mishandling, improper use, improper storage, leaving it out, negligence, accidental child's death as a result, etc...is just another nail in the coffin of the 2nd Amendment. It is fuel to their fire, more ammunition to their cause.

This is basic firearms safety people. If people can't take it seriously now...when will they ever take safety seriously?

My opinion has nothing to do with being liberal/democrat or conservative/republican.

It has to do with common sense and proper gun etiquette. Innocent lives are stake...and so are our RIGHTS. But keep on with that laissez faire attitude.




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Ma'am, every law-abiding gun owner could be cherubic choir boys, models of safety, etc., and they would still come for our guns inch by inch until they take all 63,360 inches. Don't kid yourself.

Which of the four rules of gun safety was broken here?

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

Ma'am, every law-abiding gun owner could be cherubic choir boys, models of safety, etc., and they would still come for our guns inch by inch until they take all 63,360 inches. Don't kid yourself.

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^this. Believing otherwise just plays into their hands and illustrates the effectiveness of their brainwashing.


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Originally Posted by Irving

Which of the four rules of gun safety was broken here?

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4(a) Try not to be a dumbass

I have been a violator before. Still doesn't stop me from pointing out the violations of others.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

4(a) Try not to be a dumbass

I have been a violator before. Still doesn't stop me from pointing out the violations of others.

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But do you demand they should have their guns taken away? Or stripped of other rights?

ETA: pointing out a violation is a good. We learn from mistakes, either our own or of others. I think that's different than throwing the book at someone over a slip up, the same as if they'd done great harm or threatened to, etc.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

But do you demand they should have their guns taken away? Or stripped of other rights?

ETA: pointing out a violation is a good. We learn from mistakes, either our own or of others. I think that's different than throwing the book at someone over a slip up, the same as if they'd done great harm or threatened to, etc.

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Kind of my point. We should not crucify him, but should use his dumbassedness (yes, that's a word) to illustrate a negative example.

Odd story. There is more here.

As to people who shouldn't own firearms...? I will defend there right. That being said there are some full retards out there that have firearms, who have no business or clue. We have people shooting into neighborhoods, toward houses and threatening to shoot bears (who live in town) because they get in their trash.

I know, off topic but stupid goes a long way.

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

Kind of my point. We should not crucify him, but should use his dumbassedness (yes, that's a word) to illustrate a negative example.

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Tar and feather, ride out of town on a rail, public humiliation... I see them as viable uses. Consequences for actions.

For the record, I think this guy is dumb for how he retrieved the gun. He is probably dumb for putting it into the backpack in the first, but we don't have enough information for that part. The news article makes it sound like he placed the gun there on the way to school, which makes little sense. I've had the whole left a gun in a kids backpack happen in my family before. Backpack was used for a hike over the weekend and gun got left inside. It was retrieved without incident.

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Originally Posted by Irving

For the record, I think this guy is dumb for how he retrieved the gun. He is probably dumb for putting it into the backpack in the first, but we don't have enough information for that part. The news article makes it sound like he placed the gun there on the way to school, which makes little sense. I've had the whole left a gun in a kids backpack happen in my family before. Backpack was used for a hike over the weekend and gun got left inside. It was retrieved without incident.

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Get it but dropping it into the kid's pack before school? Don't get it. I have dedicated bags for firearms an accessories. That is so the TSA/number alphabet agencies don't ever have to get involved.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

But do you demand they should have their guns taken away? Or stripped of other rights?

ETA: pointing out a violation is a good. We learn from mistakes, either our own or of others. I think that's different than throwing the book at someone over a slip up, the same as if they'd done great harm or threatened to, etc.

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But it was a gun free zone.


(Sarcasm)

Regardless of why the pistiol was in the pack, He should have grabbed the pack, said have a nice day and got the f outa there.

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Originally Posted by sellersm

^this. Believing otherwise just plays into their hands and illustrates the effectiveness of their brainwashing.


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This^

I wonder what would have happened if the guy called the PD first and told them to meet him at the school because he believed he may have accidentally left a gun in his kids bag. Would he have been charged? Maybe, but at least he didn't possess the weapon on school property himself. My guess is sticking in his waistband was a panic move.

This guy was an idiot. Period. If the gun isn't on your body in a secure holster, then it better be in YOUR backpack. Putting a firearm in your child's backpack that he/she will be taking to school is just plain dumb. Of course, then he takes stupid to the next level by removing the gun while in the presence of other people and stuffing it in his waistband - while on school property. This moron should not be handling firearms and questionable if he should have been allowed to procreate.

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Originally Posted by CavSct1983

Ma'am, every law-abiding gun owner could be cherubic choir boys, models of safety, etc., and they would still come for our guns inch by inch until they take all 63,360 inches. Don't kid yourself.

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Maybe so, but why give them more fuel?

I dont know how old this guy is, but as a father, he is of an age where he should know better by now. Ignorance is no excuse.

I knew better at age 10. Guns were never taken to school.


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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

Maybe so, but why give them more fuel?

I dont know how old this guy is, but as a father, he is of an age where he should know better by now. Ignorance is no excuse.

I knew better at age 10. Guns were never taken to school.


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Yep. My youngest son will be 9 years old in June. He has been educated on how to properly clear a firearm and not to handle one without consulting me first. There is no chance in Hell he would EVER take one to school.

So who was killed, injured, or had their rights taken away here? What property was damaged? I must have missed it in the sloppily written article.

The guy made a couple dumb moves but how is this different than what David Gregory did? Or the the "AR destroying SBR creating liberals" from last month?

The way the media is I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that this gun was a bb gun or even a pop tart in the shape of a gun.

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Originally Posted by Squeeze

Yep. My youngest son will be 9 years old in June. He has been educated on how to properly clear a firearm and not to handle one without consulting me first. There is no chance in Hell he would EVER take one to school.

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I think the issue here is that the kid didn't know it was there.

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Originally Posted by Gman

I think the issue here is that the kid didn't know it was there.

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no the issue is not the kid. the issue is the idiot father.


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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

no the issue is not the kid. the issue is the idiot father.

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I was responding to Squeeze's comment, not the issue that I originally posted. RELAX.

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Originally Posted by Gman

I was responding to Squeeze's comment, not the issue that I originally posted. RELAX.

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I was replying to CO Girl's comment, not the original post. lol

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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

Maybe so, but why give them more fuel?

I dont know how old this guy is, but as a father, he is of an age where he should know better by now. Ignorance is no excuse.

I knew better at age 10. Guns were never taken to school.


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If you read the article, it clearly states the father was 53.

Surprisingly, people that age often DID bring guns to school- usually they were left in their vehicles to go hunting later. Before you jump to conclusions that I'm making excuses for him, I am explaining that there is a competely different mindset that goes with growing up with that outlook. To those of that mindset, guns are NOT frightening; they are a tool, just like a hammer or screwdriver. Just like leaving a screwdriver in a backpack, the annoyance factor of having to go retrieve it is likely at the forefront of a person's mind, not the fact that he's not got any way to hide it after he gets it from the kid's backpack. Was it a bonehead move? Yes. Will we know why he put the gun in his kid's backpack? Not likely. Maybe they went to the range the day before, and they used the backpack to carry stuff, and forgot to empty it. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong backpack. Are you really trusting a fricking single news story, without checking to see what other information they've helpfully omitted so you can read it through their filter, to make the decision to unilaterally revoke his right to bear arms?

Did he make a mistake? Yup. Did he compound that mistake by his follow-up actions? He definitely did, and now he's got a record and will be a damn pariah because of it.

Does that justify the suggestion that he should never own a gun? That he lose his right? Hell no.
How about people that speak up against the majority opinon? Should they lose their right to the first amendment?

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Originally Posted by CoGirl303

I'm really disappointed in the laissez faire attitude of gun owners (and many on this forum) in regards to the mishandling, improper storage, unsafe handling, bad decision making and downright negligence regarding the use of firearms.

We have an entire leftist population that wants to confiscate and ban every single one of our guns...we, myself, you, and everyone else that owns and uses firearms for whatver reason can't afford to be "imperfect".

Every single instance of mishandling, improper use, improper storage, leaving it out, negligence, accidental child's death as a result, etc...is just another nail in the coffin of the 2nd Amendment. It is fuel to their fire, more ammunition to their cause.

This is basic firearms safety people. If people can't take it seriously now...when will they ever take safety seriously?

My opinion has nothing to do with being liberal/democrat or conservative/republican.

It has to do with common sense and proper gun etiquette. Innocent lives are stake...and so are our RIGHTS. But keep on with that laissez faire attitude.




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I bet you're disappointed. You should probably get used to that. Not everyone is intolerant, as judgmental, as uncompromising, and as willing to take away other people's rights as you seem to be.

If you read through the comments, you'll see everyone agrees that he screwed up. The difference is that nobody agrees he should lose his rights to own a gun because of that error. Do you think that he should also lose other rights, too?

I'm sure you've never made a mistake before.

Let me break things down to you in a different way. Let's say that Bob is driving from Cheyenne to Denver. Bob is a law-abiding citizen; he's never killed anyone with his car, he pays taxes, votes, raises his family quietly, and is pretty unnoticeable most of the time. Bob is driving, allows his attention wander for five seconds, and is suddenly speeding seven miles over the speed limit.

A CSP pulls him over.

Is this disastrous? No. COULD there have been an issue? COULD he have KILLED someone with that vehicle? DID he break the law?

By your logic, he should have his license revoked. Why?

This is the logic of liberals. They're awful disappointed in the attitude of many of the posters on the board, too.

You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.