B/c of the teacher walk out? J/C
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B/c of the teacher walk out? J/C
It worked out, it's take your kids to work day today.
Yep. I'm home. Son is 12yrs old. We're hitting the shooting range, lunch, grab the toy hauler and get it ready for summer, mow lawn together, get dirt bikes ready for the season, then beers at twin peaks. Well, he gets a Coke. Wish they could have walked out on a Friday though.
I thought the walkout was on the 27th. It's my off week with my son either way so that's not something I have to worry about.
Homeschooling mothers around the state are demanding equal rights as social engi... err, "teachers".
Wife is stuck home with the child due to the protest...er, sorry, "rally". Complete bullshit.
I work from home and my kids are homeschooled, so not sure what you are talking about
My kids are off, but the calendar shows no school today already.
Winds are 50mph. I was looking at this gun...
http://cabotgun.com/oak-collection/t...-pistol-set/#1
Make sure to post pictures on social media and take the schools money if they do anything against your kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider
Today is take your kid to work day however because I work from home every day is take your kid to work day. The teacher walk out/rally at the Capitol is tomorrow, Friday the 27th
Looks likes it’s today and tomorrow:
http://kdvr.com/2018/04/23/colorado-...ursday-friday/
My son is off tomorrow. I have no problem with teachers trying to protect their living. I think it's horrible that the people we entrust our kids to for half a day and the devolpment of their future aren't among the highest paid of the professions. I would rather have the very best for my kids, even if my taxes are a little higher because of it.
I'm in 100% agreement with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattiooo
I have a college degree and have been at my job for 10 years.
A teacher in my district with a college degree after 3 years makes $61,723 base pay for a 196 day work year.
I have to work more days per year and make a little less.
I have a buddy, his wife is a teacher in Jeffco and after 10 years with a masters degree makes just about 85k.
I don’t think they have it to bad here.
http://www.bvsd.org/HR/Documents/Neg...20Schedule.pdf
Ps: I do support teachers, my wife was a PE teacher before her spine surgery- I just don’t think it is as bad as they say it is.
Sure, as soon as the rest of us aren't held to pay for some BS social engineering in addition to making sure our own children have educational resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattiooo
Sometimes teachers value things that I don't value, but they are better at teaching my daughter math than I am. Part of my job as a parent is to be engaged with my children and make sure they know how I see the world and my values. That comes with any interaction with any person, so I'm not very bothered by her having teachers with whom I might disagree.
Most teachers push their own agenda.
My stepdaughter, HS English teacher, makes sure to push her feminist bullshit agenda with "women literature" classes.
Enough with their bullshit.
They are paid (too much IMHO) to teach kids HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
If they don't like it, there's hamburgers at McDonald's that need flipping.
...and the more money that we pump into it seems to have an inverse effect on quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavSct1983
Education is a life-long proposition. I had the advantage of teachers that taught us how to LEARN. If you can teach yourself new skills, there's no limit to what you can achieve. You're also not boxed into WHAT people tell you to think by being able to find information and make your own conclusions.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavite1
I've made a career in the Tech world by being one of the few that will actually RTFM.
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner...Quote:
Originally Posted by mattiooo
The legislature does not determine salary; that is a local school board decision. The protest is about the possibility of them paying an additional 3% into their retirement as part of trying to right the upside down boat of their division of PERA as well as raising the retirement age to 60. Too many retirees and not enough people working and contributing is the main problem. You want to continue with a defined benefit program instead of a 401(k), then you need to have more skin in it. State employees had to, so can the teachers. They also want to raise awareness for Initiative 93 which would tax people who make $150k a year or more and businesses in order to add money to a fund for the schools.
According to that schedule, they would have to have ad masters degree to be making 61k after 3 years, plus continuing ed....
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Originally Posted by Snowman78
I received an email from one of my daughter's teachers yesterday, stating what homework was expected to be completed during the school closure. I replied by telling the teacher to do her damn job - along with additional hostile words.
Some schools may also have to make up days this summer if they do not have enough days on the books to qualify for their Fed handouts.
Teachers have been crying for more pay since I was in elementary. Their pay has been going up, and graduate ability has been going down for as far back as I can remember.
The only thing I somewhat sympathize with them on, is the number of administrators making good money is always rising. However, they allow it through their unions, so not so much.
Abolish the Department of Education, and privatize the entire system. Remove the education regulations and taxes and parents can pay as they go.
My only comment is, try selling a house in a crappy school district. The taxes you pay you get it back in value of your home. Yeah the current market is outrageous but during the downturn those homes in excellent districts were much easier to sell.
I also have no issue with teachers asking for more. Hell at least once a month, they have a “pass the hat” type fundraiser for the teacher aides. Schools don’t have funding for that. The aides are the ones on the playground and the bus drop off areas. I would rather have someone making a bit more money that I entrust with my children.
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One of my good buddies is a Jeffco teacher and has been for 20yrs. There is a lot about this walk out that is NOT in the news or has been publicized.
Well, enlighten us. Otherwise, they're having a public walk-out for some hidden agenda.
I agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gman
Most everyone pushes their own agenda, all the time. If you take a gun fighting class, they aren't teaching you how to be a good student. They teach you their way. You learn what they want you to learn, and when you're done, do with that knowledge what you will. It's the same for every single thing I've ever learned, in every walk of life. It's pretty silly that people expect teachers to be any different.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavite1
I'm under the impression that there is bloat in the administrative side of the education department. I've always assumed that school districts get a ton of money, but that it isn't spent well. As a result, I automatically never "YES" for anything that pertains to giving more money to schools, or anything "for the children." That makes me a bit jaded and checked out, but change my win and you can get my vote. On the other hand, this school year I've regularly bought school supplies for my kid's teacher, and the other teachers that I've interacted. To the point where I would make a monthly round at the school and ask what teachers need, then bring it in for them. I was honest that I had additional motivations in the gesture, but still, I'd rather give money directly to where it can be used, instead of being filtered down through countless layers and is all but gone when it gets to where it needs to go.
Until there is some oversight on how the money in the school districts is spent, they go pound sand. They don't need anymore money.
The school districts are good at allocating money, telling the teachers they can't use it, then moving it into the general fund the next year as "surplus"...
That sounds just like government. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Agree, and I have one child in school and one heading there next year. I'm all for schools being funded appropriately, I am not for money being wasted. Personally, I'm in favor of a significant cut in tax payer money for schools, with the appropriate reduction in my income tax, I can then take that money, and send my children where I want, then folks who don't have children in schools aren't stuck footing the bill. Unfortunately the amount of my income tax going towards education is likely minuscule in the grand scheme of things, and I likely wouldn't be in the positive enough to pay for their schooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant H.
Disclaimer: I'm new to the school thing, so I likely have no idea what I'm talking about, these are just thoughts that run through my mind.
Seems like a pretty long way to go to cover up an idiot scratch. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
Hell, I couldn't afford to read the linked info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
"If you have to ask "how much", you can't afford it."
That's a great idea, then we can really be a 3rd world nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by davsel
Because all of those kids coming out of private schools aren't getting an education?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delfuego
It doesn't matter it is minimum wage or executive pay. People compare their monetary pay and come similar firld/sector/description and grass looks always greener on the other side.
Our district just passed 4day/week school and now this...
If they wave the edu degrees, I will apply to school district myself. 180day/yr sounds more attractive than 70hr+/week corporate job that puts in 3x + more hours per year at 2.8x more pay.
I didn't like the pay at my job, so I quit. It was very scary and I wasn't sure if I was going to make it. Then I made twice the money and probably worked half as much (or less), so I'm happy and glad I took the risk to make the change. You'll never know what you can do unless you go out and try. I feel like fighting the organization is a waste of time for everyone. If everyone goes and gets different jobs, something will have to change to get teachers back.
I think they should fire them all for fighting to try and get their pay more in line with others in the same profession.
Then when they are all fired there will be a whole lot of parents in a very ugly situation that count on their kids going to school to get an education (while the parents are at work). Going to be tough to take your kid to work every day or have to pay a whole lot for childcare/paycut for homeschooling/private school.