Phoenix Weaponry in Longmont, CO

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05-07-2018, 19:15
CoGirl303

Phoenix Weaponry in Longmont, CO

I had the pleasure of going to Phoenix Weaponry in Longmont today to get some info on adding an integrated suppressor to my new M&P 15-22.

https://www.phoenixweaponry.com/

Jim, Jeremy and Matt were very professional, polite, courteous and extremely knowledgeable and informative.

They explained options, limitations, capabilities, performance and decibel levels of suppressors and integrating it into my 15-22. They also have a guy on hand to do Duracoating and Cerakoting to match the Muddy Girl paint scheme.

The suppressor will duracoated to match the rifle.

We also discussed suppressor options for my handgun and AR-15.

I was also greeted by a friendly pup of an unknown breed, but had a white an black coat and spots. He licked my hand and nuzzled up against my leg as his way of saying hello and welcome.

I will be going back in a few weeks to start the process and fill out the ATF Form 4 and submit the fee, photos and fingerprints for a suppressor. [emoji846]

Top notch customer service and very impressed with their knowledge. A+ [emoji1305]

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05-08-2018, 20:27
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05-09-2018, 07:13
Great-Kazoo

Are you buying a commercial can or they building 1 for you? IF they're building it, i suggest you see the actual completed item before paying.

That goes for any place offering their "custom in house" suppressors and or firearms. NEVER prepay for an as of yet item not on the shelf.
05-09-2018, 07:22
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Are you buying a commercial can or they building 1 for you? IF they're building it, i suggest you see the actual completed item before paying.

That goes for any place offering their "custom in house" suppressors and or firearms. NEVER prepay for an as of yet item not on the shelf.

I don't pay for anything but the stamp until we have an ATF approval. Then I go in and take the rifle in and they'll assemble everything and duracoat the suppressor, pistol grip and rear stock.

This will be a custom built. I want a can with a smooth finish not the knurled finish.

This way I can keep a hold of my rifle until I get my stamp.

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05-09-2018, 09:57
Irving

What he's saying, is that the best way to get burned is to pay for something that isn't already built, especially in the NFA game.
05-09-2018, 11:33
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irving

What he's saying, is that the best way to get burned is to pay for something that isn't already built, especially in the NFA game.

Yea, I gathered that.

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05-09-2018, 12:26
00tec

Not certain on how hot a 22 can gets, but duracoat is only good for 500ish degrees F.
05-09-2018, 15:40
Wolfshoon

Just out of curiosity, why go with a custom integral suppressor instead of one of the many proven 1/2-28 threaded cans all ready made for rimfire?
05-09-2018, 16:00
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfshoon

Just out of curiosity, why go with a custom integral suppressor instead of one of the many proven 1/2-28 threaded cans all ready made for rimfire?

because aesthetics are just as important to me as performance and function.

I'm OCD with details like that and I want a clean, elite and integrated look, without a barrel being visible between the handguard and the suppressor. That just drives me insane looking at it. I want it to look like it belongs there and was made that way.

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05-09-2018, 16:43
Wolfshoon

Fair enough, your money to spend as you like.

Just as a second thought, why not just buy a second 15-22 barrel and have the work done on it and just swap it in when done instead of turning your whole rifle over to the smith? I don't own a 15-22 so I am ASSUMING that the barrel is held in with a nut similar to a standard AR config.

There are some outstanding photos of SBR'd 15-22's with suppressors on the net, but that would cost another stamp. Depending on what this custom work costs, that may be a viable alternative or not.

Keep in mind you will have to clean it also, a sealed can is a no-no for a 22.
05-09-2018, 18:25
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfshoon

Fair enough, your money to spend as you like.

Just as a second thought, why not just buy a second 15-22 barrel and have the work done on it and just swap it in when done instead of turning your whole rifle over to the smith? I don't own a 15-22 so I am ASSUMING that the barrel is held in with a nut similar to a standard AR config.

There are some outstanding photos of SBR'd 15-22's with suppressors on the net, but that would cost another stamp. Depending on what this custom work costs, that may be a viable alternative or not.

Keep in mind you will have to clean it also, a sealed can is a no-no for a 22.

They're going to shorten the barrel and put the suppressor on so everything = 16" which doesn't require an SBR stamp. I don't need to buy another barrel at this point. I will go in once I have my stamp and they will have the can already made and coated, and I just go in, inspect everything and they shorten the barrel, install it all right there, we go to their test area and test fire it and make sure I'm happy and then I pay for everything and go home with my rifle the same day.

The can isn't sealed, it comes apart for cleaning. They were very up front with me about that as they mentioned what you said about sealed cans being a no no on a .22

http://www.phoenixweaponry.com/media...22-blk-3_2.jpg
05-09-2018, 18:38
00tec

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

They're going to shorten the barrel and put the suppressor on so everything = 16" which doesn't require an SBR stamp. I don't need to buy another barrel at this point. I will go in once I have my stamp and they will have the can already made and coated, and I just go in, inspect everything and they shorten the barrel, install it all right there, we go to their test area and test fire it and make sure I'm happy and then I pay for everything and go home with my rifle the same day.

The can isn't sealed, it comes apart for cleaning. They were very up front with me about that as they mentioned what you said about sealed cans being a no no on a .22

http://www.phoenixweaponry.com/media...22-blk-3_2.jpg

You're going to walk in, they are going to install the can (which would need to involve cutting and threading the barrel, welding, then recoating the weld)? How long you planning on staying?
05-09-2018, 19:21
ray1970

I’m real curious to see how the can comes apart and this thing not being an SBR.
05-09-2018, 19:27
ray1970

Oh, and I might be fuzzy on the details but I think the company the OP is referring to rose up out of this debacle.

Shadow Ops Weaponry
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...5&share_type=t
05-09-2018, 19:51
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray1970

Oh, and I might be fuzzy on the details but I think the company the OP is referring to rose up out of this debacle.

Shadow Ops Weaponry
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...5&share_type=t

none of those people that were with SOW are with Phoenix Weaponry.
05-09-2018, 19:54
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray1970

I’m real curious to see how the can comes apart and this thing not being an SBR.

They are going to shorten the barrel, permanently attach the can and drill a hole and pin it. The end cap comes off and you remove the baffle and clean it, put it back together. At least that's the way it was explained to me and it keeps it legal since it's a permanent fixture and the overall length is 16".
05-09-2018, 20:01
CoGirl303

Here's the staff

http://www.phoenixweaponry.com/bios
05-09-2018, 20:24
00tec

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

They are going to shorten the barrel, permanently attach the can and drill a hole and pin it. The end cap comes off and you remove the baffle and clean it, put it back together. At least that's the way it was explained to me and it keeps it legal since it's a permanent fixture and the overall length is 16".

And weld it, right?
05-10-2018, 16:18
Wolfshoon

Another morbid curiosity question(s): what are the materials that the suppressor will be made out of ?

and if I may, what is the total cost estimate without stamp (labor and parts)?
05-10-2018, 16:44
Wulf202

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00tec

Not certain on how hot a 22 can gets, but duracoat is only good for 500ish degrees F.

22lr won't get that hot doing multiple mag dumps.
05-10-2018, 17:46
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

Here's the staff

http://www.phoenixweaponry.com/bios

Todd was SO's painter / coated.
05-10-2018, 18:10
CoGirl303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Todd was SO's painter / coated.

omg who cares!?!?

He isnt the owner of Phoenix Weaponry. He just paints guns.

go take a crap in someone elses thread please or make your own thread and bitch there. Stop ruining mine.

Phoenix is not Shadow Ops. period. the ownership is not the same.

enough already. [emoji35] Really starting to get pissed off. Everything is a god damn argument with you people (about 8-10 of you in all).

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05-10-2018, 18:34
Great-Kazoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

none of those people that were with SOW are with Phoenix Weaponry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

omg who cares!?!?

He isnt the owner of Phoenix Weaponry. He just paints guns.

go take a crap in someone elses thread please or make your own thread and bitch there. Stop ruining mine.

Phoenix is not Shadow Ops. period. the ownership is not the same.

enough already. [emoji35] Really starting to get pissed off. Everything is a god damn argument with you people (about 8-10 of you in all).

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05-10-2018, 18:44
CoGirl303

I went off two other members posts from the PWT when I said that and until you said that I didn't know he was there anyways. He isnt management and he isnt ownership.

A lot of people have worked for really shitty companies that have engaged in shady business practices but that doesn't make them bad people or mean the next company they go to work for is going to rip everyone off.

So unless you have evidence of Phoenix Weaponry engaging in the same business practices as Shadow Ops did and they are ripping people off...get out of my thread and stop bringing SOW up. It's not relevant nor pertinent. [emoji35]

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05-10-2018, 18:44
hurley842002

IBTL
05-10-2018, 18:44
davsel

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05-10-2018, 18:45
CoGirl303

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Originally Posted by hurley842002

IBTL

there shouldnt be a lock. An admin needs to clean up the SOW garbage and all this off topic bs out of it. [emoji35]

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05-10-2018, 18:51
Irving

It's not about the ownership. If I remember correctly, it was the shit employees that sunk Shadow Ops and went and started Phoenix.
05-10-2018, 18:53
davsel

Are you saying Shadow Ops Weaponry, the place that ripped off their customers and closed, became Phoenix Weaponry?
05-10-2018, 18:56
buffalobo

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05-10-2018, 19:24
cstone

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoGirl303

there shouldnt be a lock. An admin needs to clean up the SOW garbage and all this off topic bs out of it. [emoji35]

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Which one of us would you like to do what you want? The staff here is very receptive to being told how to do our jobs. [Sarcasm2]
05-10-2018, 19:35
buffalobo

IATL.

Maybe all y'all outta let both outfits fade back into the dust bin they came from. Staff will not look favorably upon this subject again.[fail]