A notch.
Besides the.
I'm Anna and your student loan is at risk. Or
Did you know your vehicle warranty is about to expire. This mornings one that actually left a robo call voice mail.
Normally a number i don't recognize goes unanswered. If there's no vm left it gets blocked.
Today there was a vm left, possibly from the VA 3rd party med referrals folk.
Checking the message. From a 312-453-3083 Chicago #
I get a japanese language one. Kon'nichiwa koreha. Tanomu.
I got that call yesterday. Any voice mail that is four minutes long gets deleted cause it's spam.
Wife got the same from the same number... this morning.
Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
I got that one too, I thought it was Chinese or something (though my number ended 1281). Edit: Yeah, I think mine's Chinese, not Japanese. Maybe Korean.
In the last 2 days, I have received over 20 spoofed 970 area code spam calls at my business. Never anyone on the other end. If I could catch up to these fuckers, I'd slow roast them alive on a spit, and baste them with salt and alcohol. Or maybe just grind their feet off with a belt sander...[Mad]
They've been killing me too. I have a business and need to answer calls during business hours. All sorts of random stuff.
Worst is my number has been confused with an elderly man who lives in Aurora. So I get all the Medicare/Medicaid scam calls and people wanting to buy my Aurora condo before I die. Even getting text messages from real estate agents! I told them I won't take a penny less than $3M. No takers.
I JUST GOT THIS ONE!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
312-453-5523
I've been getting the student loan one a lot lately.
I have a health insurance robot called at precisely 8:01 every day for the past month. They usually call again around 2pm. The next day it's a different number. Sometimes its east coast. Sometimes it's my area code
3 spam calls before 8 am.
Numerous robocalls throughout the day for the past few days, too.
Got the Japanese one months ago. Anybody need a medically approved brace? Ping me and I'll give them your number when they call me in a few hours.
The 'no call registry' is the total joke I expect from government.
Remember when having an unlisted number kept you from getting extraneous calls? Now the robo-dialers just dial ALL the numbers.
The phone companies should be able to control ingress onto their networks from only approved sources. I think they'd rather sell you a subscription service to cleanup the mess they're allowing to happen while they're getting paid by those doing the dialing.
Hmmm, same almost but the number that tried to leave a 3 minute message yesterday on my phone was (312)453-4556.
What dumber part is some idiot spammed receiver call bac the number and curse em out.
The actual number has nothing to do with robo/spam caller.
They just randomly generate the number similar to yours.
I just had to explain this to my mother-in-law the other day who had made a list of numbers that called her and hung up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
I downloaded an app that reduced these garbage calls drastically on my phone. I think it?s called Hiya.
I used to get a handful of them every day and now I get maybe one or two every couple of days.
They seem to come in batches. Will get a bunch for a few days in a row and then nothing,
Have you heard from Heather at Customer Service, yet?
I guess the computer generated my wifes number and used it to robocall. We had one incident the person called her and threatened her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
Hiya was one of the best app until they start charging for caller ID part.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
I use truecaller and their caller ID (individual or business), but truecaller doesnt automatically block number like hiya does.
Maybe I should try both at once.
Yes, the only that keeps our conversation PG is that she is on a recorded line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Circuits
Oh Heather...
When I am in the mood, I enjoy discussing a new extended warranty for my 2015 Tartan Prancer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99iAONlvpbw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tojXcpnYScM
I use free Hiya as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
You can also block area code-prefix wildcards.
I know exactly ZERO people that have the same area-prefix I do from a 25 year old AT&T mobile number port to Verizon. Probably gets recycled, but they all get immediately routed to VM. All other crowd-sourced Hiya spam gets routed to VM as well. Very few actually leave recordings if they don't get a press "1" response or noise on the line. Hiya has a premium paid service but I'm not sure what that gets you.
For the home number we still keep, it's on Ooma and I pay their monthly to get the free spam filtering and international free calls (like I ever use that.) Whatever. $5/month is cheaper than a landline.
https://youtu.be/d_CaZ4EAexQQuote:
Originally Posted by RblDiver
Caller ID for individuals is a Hiya Premium feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
Looks like carriers are including Hiya client in their native call clients now too. https://hiya.com/
Not sure of the full feature set on any as I only just discovered that.
[ROFL1]Quote:
Originally Posted by .455_Hunter
Tom Mabe knew how to deal with telemarketers.
https://youtu.be/-7OgWcwgB50
If they leave a call back number...
http://youtu.be/EzedMdx6QG4
I had one leave a message today, a computer-generated voice asking for the last 4 digits of my SS number or else there would be an arrest warrant [panic]
Please send the local police with the warrant. Then maybe we can get to the bottom of these stupid calls.
I'm running out of money damnit !!! I had no idea I had so many things expiring and needed upgrading !!! [Sarcasm2]
The sad thing with these Robocalls is that the Phone Companies actually love it because it helps burn up peoples talking minutes.
The only way this Robocall bullshit is going to stop is if the Phone Companies are held accountable for allowing these scammers to abuse the system.
If every Cell Phone customer was issued a $5 credit for each robo call they got from their cell phone carrier, that shit would be resolved in less than a day. But it currently helps the phone companies make more profit so why would they step in and help stop the issue?
I wonder how often legitimate investigators get trolled by people thinking they are just another scam call [LOL] If you had a heavy accent you just about couldn't work in that profession.
Who doesn?t have unlimited calls these days?Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA-LEE
The days of using up minutes went away fifteen years ago. Unless you have some sort of pre-paid plan or something.
For the average Cellphone customer they do have Unlimited minutes, but there is also a HUGE customer base of "I am a broke ass paying by the minute cell phone plan" people out there.
Think of it this way. There are millions of Robocalls happening every day. This consumes a SHIT TON of cellular network bandwidth and infrastructure. All of that bandwidth and infrastructure costs the Cell Phone companies money to facilitate. If they were NOT making money on all of those robo calls do you think they would allow it to happen? Absolutely NOT. The phone companies are in it to make money and right now robocalls help them make money. Until robocalls stop helping the phone companies make money, they will absolutely allow it to continue to happen. Once profits can't be made on robocalls that shit will be shut down. I am not sure how that paradigm shift can happen, but its the only way that will fix this robocall craziness.
I'm so frigging tired of hearing from "Angela" from "The Warranty Desk" ... I don't have an expiring auto warranty, I don't need your "services", and I really don't want to get another spam phone call from you.
Quite a lot of people don't have unlimited plans. Anyone with Ting pays by number of calls made/received. Lots of plans at the big cell companies as well as smaller ones have service packages of X calls per month. I think with Ting, my first phone call bumps my monthly bill $3, my 101st bumps it up another $6, etc. That sounds bad until you realize the base rate is $6/month and aside from spam, I usually make/receive fewer than 100 calls per month.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
On a related topic, my wife had me listen to one of her voice mails.
It was an obviously older woman who left a lengthy message for my wife to quit calling her and that she had contacted the authorities and given them her number. She was pretty upset that my wife was continuously calling her all the time. Obviously, my wife hadn?t placed a single call to this woman but I?m sure somebody?s auto generator had placed calls to this woman that looked like they were coming from my wife?s number.
I think as generations go by these types of calls will eventually go away. Baby boomers seem to answer calls from just about any number and aren?t very aware of the tactics that these scammers use. Gen X is more aware of this crap and has a general idea of how it works and likely is more used to dealing with it. Millennials are likely the most used to it and are probably very familiar with how it all works. I imagine when the next generation comes along the chances of any of these scams working will be about zero and they will move on to the next big scam.
I?ve always told myself if I fell upon hard times and was desperate to make money to take care of my family I would probably resort to scamming women and the elderly. I?ve seen too many stories where women or old people are scammed out of serious money by someone pretending to be someone they?re not.
Nope... the quality of the scam will get way, way, way worse as time goes on, to the point that it will even snare the best and brightest of us. Thanks to deep learning systems, "AI" is almost getting to the point of perfection in mimicking voices down to the enunciations, accents, etc. after hearing only a few samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray1970
So while Baby Boomers have to think about whether the nigerian prince is real (duuuuuuuh) catching only those with defective logical processing; all those that come after baby boomers will have to doubt every.single.call. to avoid being scammed. Granddaughter called, saying she was just roofied, raped and doesn't know where she is? Sure it sounds like her? Yeah, it might not be, pretty soon. The beginning of this evolution of scam is coming within the next five years, and inside of ten it can be done on a factory level - scrape social media, pull contacts, take samples, mimic relative's voice perfectly, say the script... as a robocaller hitting millions of phones in a day. (ETA: actually"robocaller" that can correctly respond to you)
And if they don't block spoofing of #'s soon, they will even spoof your relative's legit contact information. On a factory scale. So imagine getting a call, from your relative, it comes up as your relative on your phone, it sounds like your relative on your phone, but yeah, you're fucked if you don't have some other way to verify who someone is. This is technically possible today, but would require a lot of effort and would be targeted on an individual level.
Scammers evolve faster than their constraints do.
ETA: Best defense I can think of if this happens in the closer future (and it won't be far off) is if you ever get an out-of-the-blue, relative emergency call, subtly verify information [non public] that would only be known to them. "Hey honey, do you remember my nickname for you when you were little?" If they claim they don't remember or can't answer, hang up and call the relative back.
ETA2: And of course, whatever tactics we develop when that day comes, they will try to outsmart it, e.g. claim they lost their phone, or claim they are really drugged up and can't remember anything. We have to hope they adopt regulations and change the underlying telecom systems to make spoofing impossible... and even then, they will claim they lost their phone, someone lent them their phone, etc. There's nothing we can do to stop the upcoming voice mimicry, sadly.