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gunshot to the back of the head suicide?
death by hanging from a paper jail uniform suicide?
Doctor-assisted I think.
I just wonder what the doctor had a PhD in. Global affairs?
23/7 suicide watch monitoring?
My first thought when I saw this on the news was that it took "them" two tries but they finally got him.
If the judge had allowed him House Arrest until his trial, he’d of offed himself a lot sooner.
He wasn't on suicide watch because dying with dirt on the Clinton isn't suicide...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-jail-n1041081
Also, the info that trickling out wasn't looking good for certain people. Trump was looking to be clear of it while other high profile people weren't.
With Epstein dead, this will probably stop unless the Feds pick up more charges on someone.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-trump-1456221
Hard to say what truthfully went down, but in this situation (with accusations such as against a british prince, etc.) and a lot of the non-public info out there, I think it would be pretty hard not to be successful in bribing a prison guard.
#1) He's a douche-bag, so they don't feel sympathy.
#2) More importantly, he's so hated and there's so many people that want their info private, that it would be hard to stand in the way out of self preservation. (You want to die for Epstein, no?) They don't even have to take money if they are ethically against it, but people aren't going to risk their physical neck.
Even though I don't care for the Clinton, I don't immediately assume that willy's tally is involved in this whacking. I need to see more tangible connections and evidence, people parroting "26 times" doesn't qualify as evidence nor does it qualify the statistic.
the British prince (Andrew) I have little doubt of the veracity, because of the old case, photos, etc. And undoubtedly there are many other high-connected people involved, MAYBE Clinton, or maybe Willy's involvement is no more than Trump's. At any rate, there's a lot of people with money - most of whom none of us even know - that wouldn't want their skeletons walking out of a closet. Including the whole British royalty (preventing embarrassment), perhaps.
It's still not impossible he legitimately committed suicide. But, I kinda doubt it.
Hell...I'm not even into conspiracies and the very first thing I thought when I saw this is, "Clintons".
I'm sure everyone was extremely surprised to find this out
The Clintons were such a bad precedent for this country in so many ways. It could be anyone on that list who wasn't exposed yet. But the Clinton Crime Family gives everyone cover and they are untouchable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Kind of like "grab them by the pussy" could never be a disqualifying thing because Bill was literally grabbing them.
An acquaintence with experience in this field noted that a 24/7 1 on 1 watch used to cost about $100,00 a year, and would likely be three times that. I replied that a 23/7 watch has to cost a few million dollars just for one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsker
Imagine how surprised he was. (stolen from an earlier post here)Quote:
Originally Posted by KevDen2005
I feel sorry for the media. They had to cancel the circus this morning. This was probably 2-3 years worth of headlines.
Made me laughQuote:
Originally Posted by Rucker61
With that over now, the media can report for a day and then get back on gun control which is so dear to their communist hearts.
I am no lawyer, but I believe everything they recovered from his safe is now hearsay
I'm not so sure, that gets into a whole mess of complicated I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedave1164
But I don't think he'd have anything physical that would implicate everybody, much less in a safe. If he did, his death wouldn't be quite so valuable and we'd have seen stuff getting broken into like the Las Vegas shooter's home.
E.g. no "black book".
There would've been people quite concerned that he would've taken a "sweetheart" deal to blab about everyone and everything he knew, though. Who knows if he would've, but facing 45 years (life) in jail vs the standard of living he was used to, he might have taken any fruit they hung for him. So, he hung for them.
Wonder if this is true?Quote:
Originally Posted by thedave1164
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Maybe not so fast. This will devolve in to a R V D conspiracy shouting match.Quote:
Originally Posted by wctriumph
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/1975275001/
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Originally Posted by Firehaus
Being that all his properties are either owned by businesses or trusts, he probably didn't own his own home. You can't prosecute a dead guy either, so the boards/trustees/etc. probably can contest any further action/warrants. I'd guess his death makes it much harder to search, not easier.
He has a co-conspirator (Ghislaine Maxwell) who "recruited" the girls and, apparently, plenty of creeper friends that can be investigated/prosecuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by OxArt
I can't pretend to understand his psychology but off'ing himself before the trial (if we believe that) might mean there was no way out for him no matter the outcome. He had a serious card played for him in the plea deal (2009?) so someone was looking out for him.
Don't know if this would apply to others as well.
The info that was trickling out was interesting. The below has been circulating as talking points. Note the DO NOT "3. Link to the current court documents..." point. I believe this is referring to the latest victim affidavit and lawsuit that named Dershowitz and Richardson but cleared Trump (at least of sex).
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...cya-story.html
Here's the talking points...Quote:
?Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey?s,? Giuffre said in testimony, according to a court document. ?He didn?t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He?d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ?You?ve got the life.??
https://twitter.com/RealJudasGoat/st...94462914011136
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBoxqfPX...g&name=900x900
Barr blames jail and threatens co-conspirators...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/n...liam-barr.html
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“I was appalled, and indeed the whole department was, and frankly angry, to learn of the M.C.C.’s failure to adequately secure this prisoner,” Mr. Barr said as he gave a speech at a conference in New Orleans for the Grand Lodge Fraternal Order of Police.
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The country’s top law enforcement official also said that Mr. Epstein’s suicide would not halt the investigation into other people who might have helped him traffic teenage girls for sex. He was charged with sexually abusing hundreds of adolescent girls at his mansions in Manhattan and in Palm Beach, Fla.
“Any co-conspirators should not rest easy,” Mr. Barr said. “The victims deserve justice and they will get it.”
I hope he sticks to his guns on the investigation but I don't think it's fair to say justice is coming. The victims were certainly denied when it comes to Epstein. I'm not sure if Epstein would have ever come clean or name names, but if he did it would have validated the victims.
For those not in the know, ROLCON is short for "Role Play Conservative."
In other words, create accounts where you pretend to be a conservative so you can concern troll; e.g. "I voted for Trump and have been a Republican supporter for years, but these latest revelations really have me doubting my support for the GOP..."
Whomever wrote that can't spell worth a damn, unless it's intentional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
The allegations are not untrue, they are 'unture'. So maybe they are true.