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Well that seriously sucks. That is, if they do to Sportsman's Warehouse what they did to Cabela's, which is highly likely. And just as bad is that there's little competition left in the market.
Crap
And the hits just keep on comin.
Well, f' me!
Look, I like Bass Pro and all, but owning Cabela's and SW eliminates fair competition and a unique inventory of stock.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck.
UGH! I never shop at Bass Pro or Cabela's. I love Sportsman's.
This sucks.
Damn it
Scheel's is the last hope
And Big R.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
Never been to either, but I guess I need to head to Elizabeth or Evergreen to support a Colorado business.
I have hopes for the new Scheel's store opening in the Springs in March (21st I think). But, I'm not going to get my hopes up too high just to see them crashed by being less than I hoped for.
ETA: Big R is okay for what it is, but it doesn't hold a candle to even Sportsmans Warehouse. It's a farming store with a little outdoorsy stuff.
Fuck me.
Sounds like an opportunity to expand.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
However, retail stores are dinosaurs.
:(
My main concern is the ability of the government to shut down sales of ammunition and firearms.
With a two large companies managing much of the product manufacturing and retail sales, it will be easier for an incoming federal administration that is anti-gun to control the flow of product.
Vista Outdoors and Bass Pros are now very dominant companies. They will be able to influence market trends. And prices.
If a hostile administration choses to throttle or shut down the firearms market, it is much easier to do so by going after a few large players that control the majority of sales, rather than hundreds of smaller companies. The trickle down will be devastating regardless, to both smaller businesses and to the individual firearm enthusiast.
People are gong to need to ease up on buying reloads.
Hopefully they leave the company as it is, it’s a nice alternative. I try not to enter Cabelas or Bass Pro if I don’t have to. Jax used to be good until they jumped on the anti black rifle bandwagon.
before the panic, Sportsman's primer prices were significantly lower than Cab/Bass Pro
...and another death announced in 2020. Stop the suck already.
Funny you should mention that. Just watched a show on amazon calledQuote:
Originally Posted by eddiememphis
The Last Motorcycle on Earth.
I'm going to post it in a few threads. But substitute guns for motorcycles. Well you'll get the picture.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/91620...e-cars-by-2035
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
So almost all primers are made by one company over here, almost all ammo is made by one company over here, and all the big box stores are owned by one company over here.
Brilliant.
I'm guessing sportsman's prices are getting jacked up 20% now. If bass pro continues acquisitions, they'll be able to maintain a respectable profit margin on guns... Soon we'll just have women's department stores, with guns. AR-15's 40% off! Del-ton basic rifle was $2,000, now $1200!
Assume the doggy style position, and get used to the communist penetration. You know it's better for you and everyone else to have it like this, it hurts at first but you'll get so used to it, you won't care about anything ever again.
What a relief to be part of a conscious collective that really cares about you and I.
I agree. Even though there are no SW stores down here. Was still my favorite/go to big box store.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollohas
Yep now just ban anything purchased online and were screwed.
Im bummed. Sportsmans were always the stores I could count on.
Sad day.
Bass Pro, Cabelas, Sportsman's Warehouse.
Wonder if they will keep the names?
Soon, the names will disappear like Gart's and Dave Cooks
That's the plan. Biden made it very clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapLock
You beat me to it. Banning online sales of literally anything gun related was prominently and proudly promised by the Biden campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawin
We can no longer afford to ignore any brick store that sells firearms or firearm accessories. They will be our only option if / when the Biden plan goes into effect.
Another one bites the dust.
Welcome to the PC Sports Conglomerate!
Hoodies, yoga mats and soccer cones for everyone.
Throw in the interstate tax plan for any firearm related item. Oh you need 500 pounds of powder shipped to your reloading business? The hazmat, plus carbon tax, climate change, plus threat to innocent children, makes that an additional $10K . Then we'll need a background check on everyone on top of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Dutch
You're current wait time is (due to covid work shortages) 30 days. Press 1 to continue. Press 2, for a call back
That just sucks
Meh. I don't recall noticing that their prices or selection were improved in any way after their big bankruptcy and reorganization in 2010 - 2011 or so (when they closed down the SW Plaza and Aurora locations.) I actually am surprised they came back from that.
The few times I've gone to their new, much smaller store in Riverpointe (Santa Fe and Hampden) I wasn't much impressed by their selection or any of their prices on anything.
Bottom line, it's hard for me to feel bad about this because I don't think they really added much actual "competition" to the likes of BP/Cabela's.
Maybe they had killer deals on reloading components, I dunno since I stopped reloading years ago but their firearm and ammo prices were never any lower than any other big box store and their selection was never any better. Their prices on non-firearm outdoor goods were never that good either.
So I'm not sure what all the gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes is about. If there was enough room in the outdoor market for more than one "Mega-Lo Mart" of shooting stuff, we'd have one but from all appearances it doesn't appear that there is.
EDITED TO ADD: Now that I think about it, SW's only "gimmick" was lower prices than the competition. That was it. Not better selection, just lower prices. And I'm assuming it was the lower prices that drove them to the brink of insolvency back in 2010 - 11. So when they came back their prices and selection were indistinguishable from the likes of BPS and Cabelas (even BEFORE BPS bought Cabelas) so what did they add other than a few more physical locations? As near as I can tell, nothing. Just a Cabelas without the stuffed animals or BPS without the fish tank and the Starbucks. [Dunno]
Well, balls.....
You left out a couple of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
The insurance available for workman's comp and product liability will either be unavailable or prohibitivly expensive. This will apply to manufacturers, transport and storage companies.
The ability to get a loan for anything firearm related will also disappear.
Banks and insurance companies, which are essentially giant banks, are very politically involved. Several banks have already scaled back or eliminated loans to firearms manufacturers.
A hostile executive branch can wreak a lot of havok outside of Congressional controls.
I have read that Biden will, in his first 100 days, ban importation of ammunition and all magazine fed semi-automatic firearms.
I honestly believe the worst is yet to come.
I don't know that insurance companies are as politically involved regarding their coverage as you think.
I have personally seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I sold insurance for a time. I have family members that are involved in commercial insurance sales, SBA loans, SBA management (employed by the federal government) and insurance company management at a very high level.
They all have personal anecdotes about political influences changing coverage. And these people have been in their fields for, at the most recent, 16 years. The other three over 20 years.
I did it for two years and ran away. I'm not an office guy. Trying to sell commercial was difficult. Many carriers won't insure certain businesses so they toss it to E&S.
Excess and Surplus lines. These are the businesses that regular carriers won't insure so it becomes expensive and the scope of coverage may be limited.
To say insurance companies are not politically motivated is nonsense. The donate millions every year to all candidates and obviously want any laws passed to be in their favor.
To question whether coverage is directly influenced by politics is fair, as is the issuance of policies because of the prevailing politics of the management.
I can only offer what I have seen and heard.
Cute gal at the optics counter today did not flinch when I said that my purchase was in advance of Bass Pro raising prices :|
My family has been in the insurance industry since before I was born. If politics was all it took to determine coverage, ZERO weed related businesses would be able to be insured, and automatic firearms coverage on homeowners policies would have gone by the wayside decades ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiememphis
Sportsmans has sucked for like 2-3 years. They?re Fuddier than a Joe Biden ?buy a shotgun? PSA. The last thing I bought at SW was a Bayou Classic propane burner. I could have bought that anywhere. I just happened to have a coupon. They?re worth nothing because they?ve sold out. Who gives a shit.