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Hey quick question here. Little debate in our office. Does law enforcement know you have a conceal carry permit when they run your information. I believe this was not the case, however a co-worker recently took a class and they said that law enforcement does know if you have a permit or not? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Disregard, I just texted my buddy who is CSP. He said yes.
There answer is no. Colorado used to enter CHP holders into a database but the law was changed several years ago.
Weird my buddy is a Sergent with Colorado State Patrol and he just told me, yes they know.
If they do, they don't seem to bring it up when pulled over and you don't say anything.
Just messaged another buddy in Law Enforcement will see what he says.
I feel like this is one of those things that changes every few years, like if you can pass emissions with a check engine light on or not.
Perhaps it doesn't automatically come up when they run your DL, but they can request it.
This, my other buddy just messaged me back and he said "No, we have no way to access that information through a computer. We would need to call the issuing Sheriff."
It is state law they they cannot keep a database of CHP holders.
There is an informal way to do it depending on the software the individual county uses.
Software like AEGIS when the Sheriff creates a permit for you, it creates a profile in AEGIS. When officers (including municipal in those counties) run your info, a profile comes up with jack diddly shit attached to it, if the county does interagency shares of records, and most do.
They know that means you have a permit.
So the true answer is, by statutory law no, but certain counties have a loophole, unintentional way of showing that someone is likely a CCW holder. It's not absolute, and if you have a record in the county then they won't guess it, but if you're a clean green lima bean, yeah, they'll know in those places.
ETA: I know Mesa and Montrose counties can tell last I knew (through this loophole) I believe Delta is interagency as well. Outside of that, I've never cared to poke which other counties have this ability.
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Originally Posted by newracer
I am in LE and the answer is "No". The ability through CCIC/NCIC was removed several years ago.
If they know, they do not know so lawfully, at least not regarding CO permits, by CO law enforcement.
No telling what endorsements or registrations may come up on federal or out-of-state combined information, though - as there is no standard on what must, or may, or may not be delivered on a wants/warrants check. Probably varies by agency and access level(s)
wait, a cop that's full of shit? crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by CUatTheEnd
I wonder if it depends on the county. Probably 8 -9 years ago when I lived in Englewood I was stopped for rolling through a stop sign by a Denver cop. When he approached to ask for my DL and insurance, he said "I see you have a concealed weapons permit, are you carrying a firearm now?" I told him I was not. At that time I think I still had a Denver County CCW because I had originally lived in Denver when I applied for the permit. So I'm assuming the reason he knew I had a CCW was because it was accessible to him as a Denver record. I don't know if a non-Denver cop would have known.
Looks like here’s the answer currently. Just sayin’Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
The conspiracy continues...Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
<Sarcasm on full auto> [Beer]
The police might not know, but I do. Don't get pulled over by me and we won't have any problems.
Or he looked at you and thought that you might and asked. Or he just asks everyone that... Or that was before the prohibition on flagging CCWers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
It comes up sometimes, usually if you’re in the jurisdiction that issued the permit.
The jurisdiction that issued the permit keeps track of the permits they have issued, and most counties keep a “local” file dispatchers run in addition to ccic/ncic.
I’ve had a few over the years, but many more people who told me during the stop.. without dispatch saying anything. Frankly, it’s pointless either way.
There is no statewide database.
Your friend sounds like he's close to retirement. Since he was incorrect on the CCW, ask him what constitutes a pistol vs rifle .Quote:
Originally Posted by CUatTheEnd
One of my clients ( Ft Collins PD) insist the fixed blade i carried was illegal. Suggested he brush upon his C.R.S, regarding knives. Took him a week to say. You're right. He was so off on the knife regs. I asked him. How could he tell if an AR was a SBR or rifle. You can guess his reply, to that