DRONE SHOT DOWN BT RUSSIA OVER INTERNATIONAL WATERS

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03-14-2023, 21:27
BushMasterBoy

DRONE SHOT DOWN BT RUSSIA OVER INTERNATIONAL WATERS

MQ-9 UAV was shot down by a Russian SU27 fighter jet recently. It was flying over international waters. It is unwise to attack a drone as it can be armed with air to air missiles. Apparenty a Russian fighter jet sprayed the MQ-9 with fuel and when that didn't stop it, they fired a cannon into the propeller. The MQ-9 crashed into the Black Sea.
I won't be surprised if Moscow tries to attack a NATO country next. It would be a shame if the Kremlin was demolished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genera...cs_MQ-9_Reaper
03-14-2023, 21:45
eddiememphis

We are at war.

Without a man in charge to check foreign aggression our adversaries will continue to poke us in the chest.
03-15-2023, 06:38
battlemidget

Maybe the russians went inverted and tried to take a polaroid, but it didn't work out?
03-15-2023, 14:34
ray1970

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Originally Posted by battlemidget

Maybe the russians went inverted and tried to take a polaroid, but it didn't work out?

Can you fly a jet, drink vodka, and still have a free hand to operate a camera?
03-15-2023, 22:06
Mick-Boy

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Originally Posted by eddiememphis

We are at war.

Without a man in charge to check foreign aggression our adversaries will continue to poke us in the chest.

[ROFL1]

Dude... The US foreign policy types have openly stated that we are assisting the Ukrainians with planning, targeting, and of course supply. You really think *they* are poking *us*?

The Black Sea borders Russia. It's 6000 miles from the US. A very simple "shoe on the other foot" test lends a lot of clarity to these things.
03-16-2023, 08:50
Doc45

Just curious-what’s the source for staying it was shot down? Thanks.
03-16-2023, 09:08
BushMasterBoy

All war is based on deception (AKA Don't Enrage The American Public)

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Originally Posted by Doc45

Just curious-what?s the source for staying it was shot down? Thanks.

I figure the authorities are glossing over the truth as usual. Banging aircraft against each other is very dangerous. I highly doubt a Russian pilot would collide with a US drone to bring it down. They have a gun on a SU-27.

"The aircraft is equipped with a 30mm GSh-301 gun with 150 rounds of ammunition and a range of missiles, rockets and bombs mounted externally on ten hardpoints."

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su27/
03-16-2023, 09:31
Hoser

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

I figure the authorities are glossing over the truth as usual. Banging aircraft against each other is very dangerous. I highly doubt a Russian pilot would collide with a US drone to bring it down. They have a gun on a SU-27.

"The aircraft is equipped with a 30mm GSh-301 gun with 150 rounds of ammunition and a range of missiles, rockets and bombs mounted externally on ten hardpoints."

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su27/

You assume too much.
03-16-2023, 09:43
BushMasterBoy

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Originally Posted by Hoser

You assume too much.

I am basing my "assumption" on experience. This is my last post on this thread.
03-16-2023, 10:46
Mick-Boy

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

I am basing my "assumption" on experience. This is my last post on this thread.

Priceless.
03-16-2023, 10:53
O2HeN2

I saw a meme the other day that gave me a chuckle...

"This is not an airport. You do not need to announce your departure."

O2
03-16-2023, 11:16
flogger

Interesting video of that SU-27 dumping fuel on the drone. Ballsy pilots, if it's real.
03-16-2023, 12:19
hollohas

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

I figure the authorities are glossing over the truth as usual. Banging aircraft against each other is very dangerous. I highly doubt a Russian pilot would collide with a US drone to bring it down. They have a gun on a SU-27.

"The aircraft is equipped with a 30mm GSh-301 gun with 150 rounds of ammunition and a range of missiles, rockets and bombs mounted externally on ten hardpoints."

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su27/

There are some pics and videos. Seems like it was hit. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2db5ada0dc.jpg
03-16-2023, 14:37
eddiememphis

https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-militar...ry?id=97902649

The Russian was trying to spray the drone with fuel and bumped the Reaper's prop.
03-16-2023, 14:44
hollohas

Did the Russian dipshits really think there wouldn't be footage of it?

"We didn't dump fuel or hit it, that's american crazy talk!"

Uh, yeah ya did Russia. It's a freaking recon drone. Its entire job is to gather pictures.
03-16-2023, 15:26
Drucker

Do you think the Sov er Russians care that it was filming?
Running spy drones that feed directly to the Ukrainians is pushing the edge on that war stuff.
03-16-2023, 15:46
Clint45

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the point of dumping fuel on the drone? Hoping it might catch fire? And has this tactic been used before?
03-16-2023, 16:14
funkymonkey1111

wouldn't the fuel be vaporized instantly at that altitude and speed?
03-16-2023, 16:54
theGinsue

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Originally Posted by Clint45

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the point of dumping fuel on the drone? Hoping it might catch fire? And has this tactic been used before?

Just a guess here, but perhaps dump the fuel on the drone and in it's path, then hit the afterburners to ignite the fuel. That's all I can think of.
03-16-2023, 17:02
eddiememphis

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Originally Posted by Clint45

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the point of dumping fuel on the drone?

Marking his territory.
03-16-2023, 17:24
TEAMRICO

The Ruskies have fuel dumpin’ money?
03-16-2023, 18:10
HBARleatherneck

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Just a guess here, but perhaps dump the fuel on the drone and in it's path, then hit the afterburners to ignite the fuel. That's all I can think of.

damage the prop.
03-16-2023, 18:15
BPTactical

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Originally Posted by Clint45

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the point of dumping fuel on the drone? Hoping it might catch fire? And has this tactic been used before?

Pissing on it to assert dominance.
03-16-2023, 18:53
Hoser

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Just a guess here, but perhaps dump the fuel on the drone and in it's path, then hit the afterburners to ignite the fuel. That's all I can think of.

That is called a dump and burn. Pretty cool to see it in person.
03-16-2023, 18:55
Hoser

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Originally Posted by Clint45

This is probably a stupid question, but what's the point of dumping fuel on the drone? Hoping it might catch fire? And has this tactic been used before?

Dumping a bunch of refined kerosene/diesel fuel/JP-4 in the intake of an engine can cause things to go haywire and it can also damage various sensors.
03-16-2023, 20:05
hollohas

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Originally Posted by Drucker

Do you think the Sov er Russians care that it was filming?
Running spy drones that feed directly to the Ukrainians is pushing the edge on that war stuff.

Nope. I think it's stupid that they told the world that they didn't dump fuel or hit it when they know it was filming.
03-17-2023, 11:28
BushMasterBoy

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Just a guess here, but perhaps dump the fuel on the drone and in it's path, then hit the afterburners to ignite the fuel. That's all I can think of.

Dump fuel on it. Then drop a flare on it. The flare is a block of magnesium. Flare hit one propeller blade and damaged it. I was told when I worked these systems to be careful. Supervisor said the flare would completely burn through the runway. I just worked the avionics, munitions troops handled the flares,bombs, etc.
03-17-2023, 11:37
00tec

Last pose, eh?
03-17-2023, 12:57
flogger

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Originally Posted by Hoser

That is called a dump and burn. Pretty cool to see it in person.

I think I remember seeing some video of the Aussies doing that in the F-111 during an air show. Pretty awesome!
03-17-2023, 14:03
Wulf202

The test pilots for the f22 used to shoot flares at each other during their mock dog fights. It worked for about 6 months until someone started noticing burn marks. There was no specific protocol against it at the time. Now there is.
03-17-2023, 14:44
Delfuego

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Just a guess here, but perhaps dump the fuel on the drone and in it's path, then hit the afterburners to ignite the fuel. That's all I can think of.

Fast & Furious 11 action sequence being written up right now.
03-17-2023, 15:46
eddiememphis

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/r...drone-incident

The Russian pilots are getting medals.
03-17-2023, 16:39
theGinsue

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Originally Posted by eddiememphis

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/r...drone-incident

The Russian pilots are getting medals.

Geesh. The pilot(s) downed 1 whole UNMANNED drone with their top of the line aircraft and pilots. They've really set the bar LOW.
03-17-2023, 17:49
Drucker

Yeah, they should have waited until they shot down a balloon...
03-17-2023, 18:38
arbol

Pretty much an act of war?

-John
03-17-2023, 20:50
eddiememphis

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Originally Posted by theGinsue

Geesh. The pilot(s) downed 1 whole UNMANNED drone with their top of the line aircraft and pilots. They've really set the bar LOW.

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Originally Posted by arbol

Pretty much an act of war?

Russia has the backing of China.

They are absolutely poking their finger in Biden's chest, saying, "Oh yeah, whatcha gonna do about it".
03-17-2023, 23:46
brutal

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Originally Posted by eddiememphis

Russia has the backing of China.

They are absolutely poking their finger in Biden's chest, saying, "Oh yeah, whatcha gonna do about it".

He's probably looking for his cornpop chain right now.
03-18-2023, 13:16
Delfuego

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Originally Posted by Drucker

Yeah, they should have waited until they shot down a balloon...

Balloons are for closers
03-18-2023, 18:04
flogger

I'd love to see the Russian camera footage of the 'engagement'.

Rather they were following orders or not, you have to admit, that was an impressive thing to attempt!
03-18-2023, 20:21
Bailey Guns

Say what you will, but I'm guessing a balloon is harder to shoot down than a large UAV.

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